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Re: HEAT vs BUCKS 4/5 

Post#181 » by SerialChiller » Sun Apr 6, 2025 3:10 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Honestly I agree with Harlem, he should’ve had 40 tonight. His shot attempts tonight are very misleading, a big chunk of those were last second shot clock heaves and trying to tip in a rebound after Lopez and Giannis with 1 hand.

Spo should’ve been spamming sets for him and Bam needed to say something to Spo and the players about running sets for him. Goes both ways, idk maybe in his mind he was getting his shots due to the late clock prayers


Exactly, he had it going tonight. He has the skillset. He was by far the best player on the court until he became passive. He will figure it out though.


I think he had slightly passive moments, I think Spo is more to blame tonight.


Wasn't that long ago Herro had like a 25 point first half and finished with 30 or something if I remember right as well. Spo's the common denominator in the hot hand going cold all the time.
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Post#182 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Apr 6, 2025 3:14 am

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Toe to toe with a top 3 player in the world who also has the refs on payroll and almost got the W. Our top guys are developing nicely, Durant is loving what he’s seeing and sees right where he’ll fit in. Stay tuned.
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Post#183 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Apr 6, 2025 3:15 am

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Exactly, he had it going tonight. He has the skillset. He was by far the best player on the court until he became passive. He will figure it out though.


I think he had slightly passive moments, I think Spo is more to blame tonight.


Wasn't that long ago Herro had like a 25 point first half and finished with 30 or something if I remember right as well. Spo's the common denominator in the hot hand going cold all the time.


Even last game he was on a 2nd half heater and we froze him out at the end. I think we need an offensive mind behind Spo to work out some of these kinks
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Re: HEAT vs BUCKS 4/5 

Post#184 » by Moneyball_Spo » Sun Apr 6, 2025 3:15 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Honestly I agree with Harlem, he should’ve had 40 tonight. His shot attempts tonight are very misleading, a big chunk of those were last second shot clock heaves and trying to tip in a rebound after Lopez and Giannis with 1 hand.

Spo should’ve been spamming sets for him and Bam needed to say something to Spo and the players about running sets for him. Goes both ways, idk maybe in his mind he was getting his shots due to the late clock prayers


But you know if Bam were out tonight and Herro was playing he wouldn't be saying 31 and 12 is terrible I expect him to have a career high 10-15 more points and defend their best player at the same time :lol:.


Bam had 23 points in the 1st half. He got 8 points in the 2nd half plus OT. 31 points tonight is meh. Should've scored more.
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Post#185 » by dshearn » Sun Apr 6, 2025 3:22 am

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Toe to toe with a top 3 player in the world who also has the refs on payroll and almost got the W. Our top guys are developing nicely, Durant is loving what he’s seeing and sees right where he’ll fit in. Stay tuned.



yeah dude... I am stoked....this team really feels like a post trade team that is not yet clicking, but you can see the potential might be outstanding.


Clear out the dead wight in cap, get some fresh difference makers with the salary saved, junk all the gimmick defenses, and crutch offensive sets (cough DHO) and get the talent into their spots.

This feels like the most talented version of the Heat since the big 3 to me. This is without Wiggins and Jovic playing...

We are one very positive offseason away from some really exciting basketball...
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Post#186 » by al bondiga » Sun Apr 6, 2025 3:24 am

Either our training Staff is very very bad or The warriors training staff is very, very good.

Judging from what I've seen in the past, it is obvious the heat is "medically Challenged" or
Our "player managers" Are so used to being wrong and over managing... That they don't care anymore
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Post#187 » by marson » Sun Apr 6, 2025 5:20 am

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Toe to toe with a top 3 player in the world who also has the refs on payroll and almost got the W. Our top guys are developing nicely, Durant is loving what he’s seeing and sees right where he’ll fit in. Stay tuned.



yeah dude... I am stoked....this team really feels like a post trade team that is not yet clicking, but you can see the potential might be outstanding.


Clear out the dead wight in cap, get some fresh difference makers with the salary saved, junk all the gimmick defenses, and crutch offensive sets (cough DHO) and get the talent into their spots.

This feels like the most talented version of the Heat since the big 3 to me. This is without Wiggins and Jovic playing...

We are one very positive offseason away from some really exciting basketball...


Up that value Bam. Giannis would be available this summer, good audition for the Bucks :D
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Post#188 » by Slot Machine » Sun Apr 6, 2025 5:32 am

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10 million ETO cap savings next year. Book it

That contract was a complete joke from the second it was signed. No clue how our front office thought he warranted a 5 year deal, let alone at that salary.
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Post#189 » by dshearn » Sun Apr 6, 2025 5:42 am

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10 million ETO cap savings next year. Book it

That contract was a complete joke from the second it was signed. No clue how our front office thought he warranted a 5 year deal, let alone at that salary.



He was almost certainly loaded on salary to be a matching contract.


He was so consistent in what he did well, I suspect they thought he would be movable with enough salary to get a player of real value back.


Of course...we know he became untradable... but I am sure they had an ideal salary match "number" in mind when they signed Duncan to it.
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Post#190 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Apr 6, 2025 5:50 am

marson wrote:
dshearn wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Read on Twitter


Toe to toe with a top 3 player in the world who also has the refs on payroll and almost got the W. Our top guys are developing nicely, Durant is loving what he’s seeing and sees right where he’ll fit in. Stay tuned.



yeah dude... I am stoked....this team really feels like a post trade team that is not yet clicking, but you can see the potential might be outstanding.


Clear out the dead wight in cap, get some fresh difference makers with the salary saved, junk all the gimmick defenses, and crutch offensive sets (cough DHO) and get the talent into their spots.

This feels like the most talented version of the Heat since the big 3 to me. This is without Wiggins and Jovic playing...

We are one very positive offseason away from some really exciting basketball...


Up that value Bam. Giannis would be available this summer, good audition for the Bucks :D


Ant/KD/Giannis big 3 en route
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Post#191 » by eddieheatfan » Sun Apr 6, 2025 11:57 am

so stoked that the heat is going to go to the play in /s

to be fair bam had a monster game and other players stepped up as well but sometimes its not enough
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Post#192 » by VaDe255 » Sun Apr 6, 2025 12:58 pm

The only way to frame this as "Bam had a monster game" is if you're going strictly by the eye test or some subjective narrative.

The reality is he scored inefficiently 56% TS on high volume and largely disappeared when it mattered most, putting up just 4 points in the second half. Meanwhile, Giannis was significantly more efficient at 66% TS and dropped 22 in the second half.

This just reinforces what we've seen for 3–4 years now: when Bam is asked to shoulder a primary scoring load, he simply doesn't have that in his bag. And that’s okay but let’s not mischaracterize this as some elite performance. It was just mid range shot creation at volume, nothing more.
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Post#193 » by eddieheatfan » Sun Apr 6, 2025 1:12 pm

VaDe255 wrote:The only way to frame this as "Bam had a monster game" is if you're going strictly by the eye test or some subjective narrative.

The reality is he scored inefficiently 56% TS on high volume and largely disappeared when it mattered most, putting up just 4 points in the second half. Meanwhile, Giannis was significantly more efficient at 66% TS and dropped 22 in the second half.

This just reinforces what we've seen for 3–4 years now: when Bam is asked to shoulder a primary scoring load, he simply doesn't have that in his bag. And that’s okay but let’s not mischaracterize this as some elite performance. It was just mid range shot creation at volume, nothing more.
no, he cannot shoulder anything he far from being a true anchor. true stars makes everyone better and take their teams to wins but yes 30 pts is not too shabby
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Post#194 » by Beenie » Sun Apr 6, 2025 2:15 pm

Solid L last night

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Post#195 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Apr 6, 2025 3:21 pm

VaDe255 wrote:The only way to frame this as "Bam had a monster game" is if you're going strictly by the eye test or some subjective narrative.

The reality is he scored inefficiently 56% TS on high volume and largely disappeared when it mattered most, putting up just 4 points in the second half. Meanwhile, Giannis was significantly more efficient at 66% TS and dropped 22 in the second half.

This just reinforces what we've seen for 3–4 years now: when Bam is asked to shoulder a primary scoring load, he simply doesn't have that in his bag. And that’s okay but let’s not mischaracterize this as some elite performance. It was just mid range shot creation at volume, nothing more.


I wouldnt say he had a monster game, but he played good. Only 8* points in the 2nd half of the game, probably should’ve had 15+ at minimum. I personally think last night should’ve been a 40 point night but the Bucks adjusted, others guys heated up, and we went away from Bam/he needed to demand it more. The only time it really bothered me was down the stretch when we were isolating role players instead of working actions with Bam or when we were just draining the clock spamming DHOs with Duncan that led to nothing. Bam shot 6 grenades last night being thrown the ball in a bad spot with 3-4 seconds left, that’ll simply kill your efficiency.

Giannis did have a big game, it would be amazing to have someone on this roster again who has the officials in their back pocket and gets to the line off of weak ticky tack fouls, that would’ve led to at least 4 more free throws for Bam
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Post#196 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Apr 6, 2025 4:20 pm

If Bam makes the last second 3 that had no effect on the game he finishes with a 62TS%. If he makes the 3 and eliminates 2 grenades he has a 66TS%. If you just eliminate 3 grenades he has a 63TS%, that’s how small the margins are there.

As for Bam not being able to step up as a 1st option, I think he’s done a good job there.

This season without Jimmy/Wiggins/Herro: 32.5-12-5

Last season: 25-13-5

For his career: 23-10.5-6.5 on 54% shooting (I forgot to include free throws to calculate TS% but I’m not running through that info again lol)

That’s pretty damn good for a guy with no offense and gets Joel Anthony comparisons.
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