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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#1021 » by lastb1ckman » Fri May 30, 2025 6:14 pm

Tbh, im not sure of Jovic's role in the future. He isn't a C, so he can't play back up C, but idk if he's good enough with the ball in his hands to invest in that. But that's where he's most effective.

Like how can he exist next to guys like Bam and Herro or whoever we develop that are better than him on offense without reducing him to 3&D guy?
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Post#1022 » by twix2500 » Fri May 30, 2025 6:54 pm

lastb1ckman wrote:Tbh, im not sure of Jovic's role in the future. He isn't a C, so he can't play back up C, but idk if he's good enough with the ball in his hands to invest in that. But that's where he's most effective.

Like how can he exist next to guys like Bam and Herro or whoever we develop that are better than him on offense without reducing him to 3&D guy?


You dont think he will have growth?
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Post#1023 » by lastb1ckman » Fri May 30, 2025 7:17 pm

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lastb1ckman wrote:Tbh, im not sure of Jovic's role in the future. He isn't a C, so he can't play back up C, but idk if he's good enough with the ball in his hands to invest in that. But that's where he's most effective.

Like how can he exist next to guys like Bam and Herro or whoever we develop that are better than him on offense without reducing him to 3&D guy?


You dont think he will have growth?


The thing is maybe not in the way that works for this team. He's not being utilized at his full potential as just a catch and shoot guy, but does he have it in him to demand that ball over Herro, Bam or even Mitchell? Especially in situations where he starts with them.
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Post#1024 » by greg4012 » Fri May 30, 2025 7:23 pm

lastb1ckman wrote:Tbh, im not sure of Jovic's role in the future. He isn't a C, so he can't play back up C, but idk if he's good enough with the ball in his hands to invest in that. But that's where he's most effective.

Like how can he exist next to guys like Bam and Herro or whoever we develop that are better than him on offense without reducing him to 3&D guy?


Miami was the most devoid team in the NBA at perimeter and onball playmaking this past season. I wouldn't bet that Jovic ever becomes a team's primary playmaker, but I absolutely am not in a rush to ship him off when he's one of the few players on the roster that can actually create on the ball and serve as a secondary playmaker.
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Post#1025 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri May 30, 2025 9:11 pm

MWP's Mock Draft 1.0 1-20

Picks 1-20 just to give a quick glance on what we could be looking at with pick 20.

1. Mavs- SF Cooper Flagg 6'9 Duke
2. Spurs- PG/SG Dylan Harper 6'5 Rutgers
3. 76ers- SF/PF Ace Bailey 6'8 Rutgers
4. Hornets- SG VJ Edgecombe 6'5 Baylor
5. Jazz- SG Tre Johnson 6'6 Texas
6. Nets(Trade with Wizards)- PG Jeremiah Fears 6'4 Oklahoma
7. Pels- SG/SF Kon Knueppel 6'6 Duke
8. Wizards(Trade with Nets) SF/PF Noa Essengue 6'9 France
9. Raptors- C Khaman Maluach 7'0 Duke
10. Rockets- SF Liam McNeeley 6'8 Uconn
11. Blazers- PF Asa Newell 6'10 Georgia
12. Bulls- PG/SF 6'9 Egor Demin BYU
13. Hawks- PG/SG Kasparas Jakucionis 6'6 Illinois
14. Spurs- PF Collin Murray Boyles 6'7 South Carolina
15. OKC- SF Carter Bryant 6'7 Arizona
16. Magic- SG/SF Cedric Coward 6'6 WSU
17. Wolves- PF Rasheer Fleming 6'9 St Joe's
18. Wizards- C Derik Queen 6'10 Maryland
19. Wizards(Trade with BK) PG Nolan Traore 6'3 France
20. Heat- PG Ben Saraf 6'6 Israel or PG/SG Jase Richardson 6'2 MSU or PG Walter Clayton Jr 6'3 Florida
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Post#1027 » by twix2500 » Fri May 30, 2025 10:19 pm

lastb1ckman wrote:Tbh, im not sure of Jovic's role in the future. He isn't a C, so he can't play back up C, but idk if he's good enough with the ball in his hands to invest in that. But that's where he's most effective.

Like how can he exist next to guys like Bam and Herro or whoever we develop that are better than him on offense without reducing him to 3&D guy?


Jovic has played center. The Heat have been developing him to show versatily to exploit matchups. He is a 6'10 wing versatile developing wing. He has absolutely shown very good offensive talent. His biggest problems is his mental lapses, you can obvious see the lack of maturity because he is very inexerienced. They have shown him a lot of different looks and it should pay off at the end. Which stumbling should have been expected. IMO he is ahead of the curve. I didnt expect him to start getting mins until this season. He was a very raw player and is still very raw.
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Post#1028 » by HeatFan_NC » Fri May 30, 2025 10:33 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:MWP's Mock Draft 1.0 1-20

Picks 1-20 just to give a quick glance on what we could be looking at with pick 20.

1. Mavs- SF Cooper Flagg 6'9 Duke
2. Spurs- PG/SG Dylan Harper 6'5 Rutgers
3. 76ers- SF/PF Ace Bailey 6'8 Rutgers
4. Hornets- SG VJ Edgecombe 6'5 Baylor
5. Jazz- SG Tre Johnson 6'6 Texas
6. Nets(Trade with Wizards)- PG Jeremiah Fears 6'4 Oklahoma
7. Pels- SG/SF Kon Knueppel 6'6 Duke
8. Wizards(Trade with Nets) SF/PF Noa Essengue 6'9 France
9. Raptors- C Khaman Maluach 7'0 Duke
10. Rockets- SF Liam McNeeley 6'8 Uconn
11. Blazers- PF Asa Newell 6'10 Georgia
12. Bulls- PG/SF 6'9 Egor Demin BYU
13. Hawks- PG/SG Kasparas Jakucionis 6'6 Illinois
14. Spurs- PF Collin Murray Boyles 6'7 South Carolina
15. OKC- SF Carter Bryant 6'7 Arizona
16. Magic- SG/SF Cedric Coward 6'6 WSU
17. Wolves- PF Rasheer Fleming 6'9 St Joe's
18. Wizards- C Derik Queen 6'10 Maryland
19. Wizards(Trade with BK) PG Nolan Traore 6'3 France
20. Heat- PG Ben Saraf 6'6 Israel or PG/SG Jase Richardson 6'2 MSU or PG Walter Clayton Jr 6'3 Florida


Not bad. Based on the articles I've read lately, it sounds like Fleming, WCJ, or Nique Clifford might be our selection. We'll see what happens!
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Post#1029 » by HeatFan_NC » Fri May 30, 2025 10:35 pm

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lastb1ckman wrote:Tbh, im not sure of Jovic's role in the future. He isn't a C, so he can't play back up C, but idk if he's good enough with the ball in his hands to invest in that. But that's where he's most effective.

Like how can he exist next to guys like Bam and Herro or whoever we develop that are better than him on offense without reducing him to 3&D guy?


Jovic has played center. The Heat have been developing him to show versatily to exploit matchups. He is a 6'10 wing versatile developing wing. He has absolutely shown very good offensive talent. His biggest problems is his mental lapses, you can obvious see the lack of maturity because he is very inexerienced. They have shown him a lot of different looks and it should pay off at the end. Which stumbling should have been expected. IMO he is ahead of the curve. I didnt expect him to start getting mins until this season. He was a very raw player and is still very raw.


Right now he's a poor man's Danilo Gallinari. He definitely has potential and an interesting skill set. But like you said, he's still very raw
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Post#1030 » by unowen85 » Fri May 30, 2025 10:40 pm

Idk about drafting another perimeter player like Coward. We got Jacquez, Pelle, and Johnson that need playing time this year. And quite frankly, I doubt he is there at 20. Fleming and Clayton would be my top two, and Heat could probably trade down and still land one of them, while acquiring some future second round picks.
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Post#1031 » by dolphinatik » Sat May 31, 2025 12:25 am

Lots of teams like Powell including the Heat but he is a reach in the first round. He might actually get drafted there. He is so skinny but old man game at such a young age when an NBA team gets a hold of him I could see him carving out a roll. Loves to float and hang in the air. Might turn into a 3 level scorer that loves to defend ala Wade (on blocks).

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Post#1032 » by lastb1ckman » Sat May 31, 2025 12:46 am

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lastb1ckman wrote:Tbh, im not sure of Jovic's role in the future. He isn't a C, so he can't play back up C, but idk if he's good enough with the ball in his hands to invest in that. But that's where he's most effective.

Like how can he exist next to guys like Bam and Herro or whoever we develop that are better than him on offense without reducing him to 3&D guy?


Jovic has played center. The Heat have been developing him to show versatily to exploit matchups. He is a 6'10 wing versatile developing wing. He has absolutely shown very good offensive talent. His biggest problems is his mental lapses, you can obvious see the lack of maturity because he is very inexerienced. They have shown him a lot of different looks and it should pay off at the end. Which stumbling should have been expected. IMO he is ahead of the curve. I didnt expect him to start getting mins until this season. He was a very raw player and is still very raw.


You just said it yourself, he's a big wing. He isnt a center. None of his best minutes have come at the 5. He doesnt have the rebounding or rim protection. Im not saying he isn't progressing, but I just question if he can reach his potential as the team is constructed. He needs a set role and they can't seem to find one that results in consistent winning basketball yet. Maybe they need to trade away Wiggins and try him at the 3 long term.
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Post#1033 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat May 31, 2025 1:10 am

unowen85 wrote:Idk about drafting another perimeter player like Coward. We got Jacquez, Pelle, and Johnson that need playing time this year. And quite frankly, I doubt he is there at 20. Fleming and Clayton would be my top two, and Heat could probably trade down and still land one of them, while acquiring some future second round picks.

Trading down might not be a terrible idea but there’s also a chance that we swap picks with the Suns from 20 to 29 as part of a potential Durant deal.
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Post#1034 » by eddieheatfan » Sat May 31, 2025 1:23 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:MWP's Mock Draft 1.0 1-20

Picks 1-20 just to give a quick glance on what we could be looking at with pick 20.

1. Mavs- SF Cooper Flagg 6'9 Duke
2. Spurs- PG/SG Dylan Harper 6'5 Rutgers
3. 76ers- SF/PF Ace Bailey 6'8 Rutgers
4. Hornets- SG VJ Edgecombe 6'5 Baylor
5. Jazz- SG Tre Johnson 6'6 Texas
6. Nets(Trade with Wizards)- PG Jeremiah Fears 6'4 Oklahoma
7. Pels- SG/SF Kon Knueppel 6'6 Duke
8. Wizards(Trade with Nets) SF/PF Noa Essengue 6'9 France
9. Raptors- C Khaman Maluach 7'0 Duke
10. Rockets- SF Liam McNeeley 6'8 Uconn
11. Blazers- PF Asa Newell 6'10 Georgia
12. Bulls- PG/SF 6'9 Egor Demin BYU
13. Hawks- PG/SG Kasparas Jakucionis 6'6 Illinois
14. Spurs- PF Collin Murray Boyles 6'7 South Carolina
15. OKC- SF Carter Bryant 6'7 Arizona
16. Magic- SG/SF Cedric Coward 6'6 WSU
17. Wolves- PF Rasheer Fleming 6'9 St Joe's
18. Wizards- C Derik Queen 6'10 Maryland
19. Wizards(Trade with BK) PG Nolan Traore 6'3 France
20. Heat- PG Ben Saraf 6'6 Israel or [b]PG/SG Jase Richardson 6'2
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Post#1036 » by twix2500 » Sat May 31, 2025 7:09 pm

I guess we have to look at some raw young prospects now we have a better idea about where players are going.

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Post#1037 » by lastb1ckman » Sat May 31, 2025 10:53 pm

unowen85 wrote:Idk about drafting another perimeter player like Coward. We got Jacquez, Pelle, and Johnson that need playing time this year. And quite frankly, I doubt he is there at 20. Fleming and Clayton would be my top two, and Heat could probably trade down and still land one of them, while acquiring some future second round picks.


I agree. Guys like Nique or Coward already exist on this team. If there's no big trade like KD or something to git rid of the log jam, why draft similar players that aren't really any younger than the prospects you got? If they did draft a wing im totally expecting 1 or 2 of our young guys to be on borrowed time as a Heat.
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Post#1038 » by lastb1ckman » Sat May 31, 2025 11:08 pm

Its the same as last year, where I didnt think they'd take Da Silva because of all our young wings and forwards. We have even more now. Unless they think the pick this year has a much higher ceiling than any of our guys now, then why bother? Theres other options
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Post#1039 » by RexBoyWonder » Sun Jun 1, 2025 8:49 am

lastb1ckman wrote:Its the same as last year, where I didnt think they'd take Da Silva because of all our young wings and forwards. We have even more now. Unless they think the pick this year has a much higher ceiling than any of our guys now, then why bother? Theres other options


Taking a Da Silva or any other "decent role-player ceiling" type is just a Deranged approach for a team far from contending, lacking elite talent and filled with role players.

It's knowingly aiming and plaining to be a plan-in team for the foreseeable future.

Take a big swing on an bigger risker talent, at least give yourself a chance to improve.
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Post#1040 » by Seabass777 » Sun Jun 1, 2025 10:26 am

twix2500 wrote:
lastb1ckman wrote:Tbh, im not sure of Jovic's role in the future. He isn't a C, so he can't play back up C, but idk if he's good enough with the ball in his hands to invest in that. But that's where he's most effective.

Like how can he exist next to guys like Bam and Herro or whoever we develop that are better than him on offense without reducing him to 3&D guy?


Jovic has played center. The Heat have been developing him to show versatily to exploit matchups. He is a 6'10 wing versatile developing wing. He has absolutely shown very good offensive talent. His biggest problems is his mental lapses, you can obvious see the lack of maturity because he is very inexerienced. They have shown him a lot of different looks and it should pay off at the end. Which stumbling should have been expected. IMO he is ahead of the curve. I didnt expect him to start getting mins until this season. He was a very raw player and is still very raw.


Jovic is not a center. He was forced to play Center a couple years back, it’s just not his position. Jimmy Butler had to vouch for him and yell out to the media, and the coaching staff, that he’s not a 5 so quit playing him at the 5.

Jovic’s best position is as a ball handler, and as a wing. He’s a point forward, that’s how we maximize him and get the best out of him. Any other position for him and it’s just gonna be a square peg and a round hole type of situation.


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