Ricky Davis

[gold0259]

Is Ricky that bad for you guys? I watched him all last season in Minny and he was solid with high 3 pt % was unselfish, it just seems like he is lost and basically fallen out of the league in Miami. I am sure you are not happy with his performance as well. But if he played up to his potential ( maybe he hates riles or something) but with Ricky, wade, and MArion you got 3 guys that are very athletic and could really be something, I just can't figure out why. Wade looks like his heart aint in to it anymore.
pg wage
2g Ricky
sf marion

sounds amazing just isn't happening.

My Question is why, and also do you have any thoughts of bringing rick d back

[miamiballer]

all ricky davis team

curry
randolph
davis
crawford
marbury

6th man: smush

just cant wiin with them, surprised isaiah didnt trade for him

[HeatInOhio]

Ricky's OK, he's just one dimensional. He's not real good defensively and he's mainly a jumpshooter on offense. He doesn't create a lot of shots for others and has a fairly weak handle for a 2 guard. Maybe he doesn't fit into the offensive scheme down here... who knows. Whatever the case, he's been dissapointing.

Wade's been playing hurt all year and still is putting up close to his averages from the past few years. But there's games where he's clearly hobbling up the court. His turnovers have definately been a problem, I don't how much that relates to his injuries though. All in all, the team has been a monster dissapointment.

One thing that doesn't help is the players we have around these guys. I mean, Earl Barron? Chris Quinn? Luke freakin Jackson? One things for sure, we need a serious talent upgrade outside Wade and Marion.

[LEIF]

Is Ricky that bad for you guys? I watched him all last season in Minny and he was solid with high 3 pt % was unselfish, it just seems like he is lost and basically fallen out of the league in Miami. I am sure you are not happy with his performance as well. But if he played up to his potential ( maybe he hates riles or something) but with Ricky, wade, and MArion you got 3 guys that are very athletic and could really be something, I just can't figure out why. Wade looks like his heart aint in to it anymore.pg wage
2g Ricky
sf marion

sounds amazing just isn't happening.

My Question is why, and also do you have any thoughts of bringing rick d back

as Wade comes off another 30-10 game , Wade is banged up, has been and will continue to be ALL year.

Ricky Davis is a classic example of a player that gets stats on bad teams, has Ricky Davis ever been on a 50 win team? EVER?

[Vertical Limit]

Is Ricky that bad for you guys? I watched him all last season in Minny and he was solid with high 3 pt % was unselfish, it just seems like he is lost and basically fallen out of the league in Miami. I am sure you are not happy with his performance as well. But if he played up to his potential ( maybe he hates riles or something) but with Ricky, wade, and MArion you got 3 guys that are very athletic and could really be something, I just can't figure out why. Wade looks like his heart aint in to it anymore.pg wage
2g Ricky
sf marion

sounds amazing just isn't happening.

My Question is why, and also do you have any thoughts of bringing rick d back

ahahaha

[MiamiHeatFan2004]

Is Ricky that bad for you guys? I watched him all last season in Minny and he was solid with high 3 pt % was unselfish, it just seems like he is lost and basically fallen out of the league in Miami. I am sure you are not happy with his performance as well. But if he played up to his potential ( maybe he hates riles or something) but with Ricky, wade, and MArion you got 3 guys that are very athletic and could really be something, I just can't figure out why. Wade looks like his heart aint in to it anymore.
pg wage
2g Ricky
sf marion

sounds amazing just isn't happening.

My Question is why, and also do you have any thoughts of bringing rick d back

A lot of athletic players have trouble when they come to play for Riley. If you are not a disciplined player you will suffer under Riley.

Brent Barry, Ricky D, Smush, and others have had horrible seasons here after they were decent on other teams.

Riley has his style that he has been using since the Knicks days and it does not fit all players. Look at the bright side though Starks, ike Austin, Bowen and many others have come out of nowhere to become solid players because they followed Riley's rules and learned how to play the game the right way.

Wade is struggling in some areas this season, some is physical and some is mental too. Good health and a better team next year will cure all that I believe.

[Immure]

Unlike most heat posters, I feel he isn't that bad. He might be a little over paid for what he does but as a player he isn't bad and his contract isn't as bad as other players have been. The thing is most of these guys always like to point the finger at somebody. First it was EJ, then AW, and now ricky D. When everything is said and done, he's probably our 3rd or 4th best player on this team at the moment.

[Rodrizzle]

Wade just has no help on this team right now. He has to do it all. When we have lineups around wade that consists of Quinn,Wright,Barron,Alexander what the hell is the guy to do but go 5 on 1.
I really feel for the guy but with a good offseason of drafting and recruiting i think this season will do wonders for Wades hunger in the years to come

[MiamiHeatFan2004]

Wade just has no help on this team right now. He has to do it all. When we have lineups around wade that consists of Quinn,Wright,Barron,Alexander what the hell is the guy to do but go 5 on 1.
I really feel for the guy but with a good offseason of drafting and recruiting i think this season will do wonders for Wades hunger in the years to come

PG Jwill - got the ring with him as starter
SF - Marion - All star player
PF - Haslem - got the ring with him as starter
C- Blount - average center on offense

With that lineup Wade has an OK group around him. 2 guys that won the ring with him, an AS SF and a decent C on offense.

[HeatInOhio]

You consider JWill help?? He's arguably the worst starting PG in the league right now.

Boston = Rondo
Jersey = Harris
NY = Crawford
Philly = Miller
Toronto = Calderon/Ford

Chicago = Hinrich
Cleveland = Gibson
Detroit = Billups
Indy = Tinsley
Milwaukee = Williams

Atlanta = Bibby
Charlotte = Felton
Orlando = Nelson
Washington = Arenas

Dallas = Kidd
Houston = Alston
Memphis = Conley
New Orleans = Paul
San Antonio = Parker

Denver = Carter
Minnesota = Telfair
Portland = Blake/Rodriguez
Seattle = Watson
Utah = Williams

Golden State = Davis
LA Clippers = Cassell
LA Lakers = Fischer
Phoenix = Nash
Kings = Udrih

Out of this list, you could argue that he's no worse than who? Maybe Udrih, Telfair, Blake and Carter. At any rate, its pretty clear that the guy at this point in this system is one of the worst starting PGs in the league. Haslem is OK, definately not top 10 (and I would argue not even top 15) at his position.

Duncan
Amare
KG
Brand
Gasol
Aldridge
Bosh
Boozer
Nowitzki
Okafor
West
Josh Smith
Jamison
J O'Neal

I think its fair to say all the above players are clearly better PFs. Haslem is a solid role player but the type of guy who plugs in well to a team of good players. Fact is, this team is starving for quality players. Let's not even get started on the d-league bench. We have one of the best SGs and on the best SFs (that we just aquired a few games ago) in the game. Outside of that, not a lot to see here.

[daniel3]

I wonder how our bench now (Banks, Ricky, Johnson, Barron) would compare to our possible bench next year (Banks, Cook, Dorell, Haslem (if we get Beasley), Blount)?

[MiamiHeatFan2004]

You consider JWill help?? He's arguably the worst starting PG in the league right now.

Boston = Rondo
Jersey = Harris
NY = Crawford
Philly = Miller
Toronto = Calderon/Ford

Chicago = Hinrich
Cleveland = Gibson
Detroit = Billups
Indy = Tinsley
Milwaukee = Williams

Atlanta = Bibby
Charlotte = Felton
Orlando = Nelson
Washington = Arenas

Dallas = Kidd
Houston = Alston
Memphis = Conley
New Orleans = Paul
San Antonio = Parker

Denver = Carter
Minnesota = Telfair
Portland = Blake/Rodriguez
Seattle = Watson
Utah = Williams

Golden State = Davis
LA Clippers = Cassell
LA Lakers = Fischer
Phoenix = Nash
Kings = Udrih

Out of this list, you could argue that he's no worse than who? Maybe Udrih, Telfair, Blake and Carter. At any rate, its pretty clear that the guy at this point in this system is one of the worst starting PGs in the league. Haslem is OK, definately not top 10 (and I would argue not even top 15) at his position.

Duncan
Amare
KG
Brand
Gasol
Aldridge
Bosh
Boozer
Nowitzki
Okafor
West
Josh Smith
Jamison
J O'Neal

I think its fair to say all the above players are clearly better PFs. Haslem is a solid role player but the type of guy who plugs in well to a team of good players. Fact is, this team is starving for quality players. Let's not even get started on the d-league bench. We have one of the best SGs and on the best SFs (that we just aquired a few games ago) in the game. Outside of that, not a lot to see here.

Well did you watch Lebron win the game last night? He had only 5 other players on the whole team and they signed 2 NBDL players just to qualify for the game.

They won........ if you are a great player you find a way to win more than 9 games in over 50, sorry....

You can't blame all of this just on supporting cast. Some is injury, some is Wade's mental toughness and decision making being not as good this year as well.

We have lost 25/26 games which is in the top 3 worst 26 game stretches in NBA history EVER!! Our roster is not one of the 3rd worst ever sorry.

And comparing PFs, you put about 4 or more guys that usually start at Centers in there.... JOneal, Duncan, Okafor, Gasol are Centers. Haslem is not a star player, but he is better than average.

[Hoops23]

double post

sorry!

[Hoops23]

Ricky Davis???

The biggest trade mistakes in the history of the Heat are the one that involves Ricky Davis. . . . . Aside from the trade always favors the other team, its the curse Davis brings. After the Heat made the 1st Ricky Davis trade in 2001, Miami missed the playoffs and Zo went down because of injuries. And history repeat again this season. Ricky Davis is a curse for the Heat and they should let him go instead of making a sign and trade because of the reason I mentioned.

[HIF]

do you throw salt over your shoulder?

[Lane1974]

I stepped on a crack the same day Alonzo hurt his leg.

[HIF]

lol

love the Jnil tag btw

[Lane1974]

some things are just too obvious not to use