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Post#21 » by CB4MiamiHeat » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:59 pm

and somehow he rebounded better than every single player in the entire NCAA..
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Post#22 » by miamiballer » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:07 pm

CoolD wrote:[url=http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2629/beasleyexposed1vg3.jpg](picture)[/URL]
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I just don't get the sense watching this pictures against a 6 11 270 pounder, that Beasley will be a legit big in the Pros.

guy is 6 9 235 pounds.

Imagine him next to Shaq by accident. :rofl: And people have the gall to even insinuate like the guy is going to dominate the paint in the NBA like Shaq.

I think even Elton Brand is being a bit generous.


You seriously overrate size...you should know that size isnt everything, a guy that can score in the post and dominate double teams while opening up the lanes for wade and co is IMO a priority moreso than another distributor

size doesnt matter for elton brand, nor did it for barkley, malone, boozer, bird, i can go on and on...do we still need a center if we get beasley? yes...but we can find one either in trade or FA...if we get beasley, all we would need to do is find the right role players because scoring and rebounding would be taken care of

a lineup of

Anthony/blount
Beasley/haslem
marion/wright
wade/cook
JCN/banks/quinn

is young, athletic with incredible rebounding, good potential for defense and solid scoring
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Post#23 » by Lane1974 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:14 pm

and that Shaq thing is a straw man, no one has ever said that Beasley is akin to Shaq as a post presence.
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Post#24 » by miamiballer » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:24 pm

plus beasley can still fill out his frame more when he gets into nba condition..hes more like 6'9 3/4 not 6'9...by the time hes in the nba and grows into his body i bet hes 6'10 250...a 6'10 250 lb monster who can score at will inside and out...and we already have wade as a playmaker? give me a break...wade and beasley would be something special like stockton and malone great...wade and rose...two ball dominant players who can't shoot great...not so much...rose would be great for a team like seattle w/o a playmaker
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Post#25 » by BFRESH44 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:11 pm

Hope Beasley is the pick just so CoolD can be extremly pissed off.

Forget the actual notion of being excited over pairing Beasley with Wade for a near decade, I just want CoolD to be very very very upset, and on the edge.
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Post#26 » by Lane1974 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:19 pm

I admit I don't know much about Beasley from my own eyes, but I know that I DON'T know enough to be judgmental about it -- I admit to falling in love with Rose but that's because I saw him play and at a high level. I won't dismiss the experts like ESPN and our boy Jon G from Draftexpress and whomever you read who all near unanimously have Beasley going #1.
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Post#27 » by CoolD » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:45 pm

[quote="miamiballer"][/quote]Considering Barkley and Malone for one were freaks in athletic ability, and two, they weighted over 20 pounds, even when Barkley was at his thinest, a heavier version of Barkley easily outweights him 30 pounds.

So what that Beasley got 12 rebounds a game in college, Kevin Durant got 11 rebounds a game, know in the NBA is 4.4. You guys really have no grasp how a guy like Laettner was God in College just average in the Pros. I think Beasley might reach All Star in a couple years. But I don't see him being a real dominant post player at the pros. He might have to play like Nowitzki, to really get his points. But Nowitzki is taller, and better shooter, and probably a smarter player. I do concede he will probably be a better post that Nowitzki, and will get points in the paint in fastbreaks and alley opps, but isn't that the same of what Shawn Marion does, and everyone hates him in this board. In the end of the day, he resembles the most is Antwan Jamison. But he is not a great passer, not a great defender. Probably not a great NBA post player, he will score points, but not the way this board thinks dominating the paint, in half court sets, for that you need size, and real post presense.

But taking his inflated stats, vs college duds. go check Kurt Thomas stats for his last year, they make Beasley look not that great.

I still think Beasley will be a good player, but not an elite player, I do think Rose will hit elite status.
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Post#28 » by DBurks2818 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:07 pm

Again, Beasley's a freshman. People should stop comparing him to juniors and seniors. He's likely 2x the player he is in his junior year two years from now, so give him credit for dominating as a freshman.

With that out of the way, Beasley is pretty atheletic. He's not Josh Smith or anything, but he's definitely at least as atheletic as a Boozer or Brand. And he's got their long arms, BBall IQ (in terms of feel for the game), and great rebounding ability. I don't remember Laettner ever being that atheletic, which is a huge reason that he never dominated in the NBA. Brown and Olowakandi never had the will to dominate and win. Beasley, and Rose really, are winners. Rose just played on the better team.
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Post#29 » by heat4life » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:19 pm

Let's put the best of both worlds; Would you draft Amare Stoudamire or Chris Paul with the first pick?

IMO, it is a good problem to have (pending we land #1). When you have two players like that at the top of the draft with equal amount of potential, then you can take the luxury of drafting to fill a need/system. Who fits best? Beasley or Rose? The questions sounds more complicated when your team has a season like Miami and has a bunch of needs.
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Post#30 » by miamiballer » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:24 pm

for the heat, id love to have amare but you have to realized that beasley is more nba ready than rose is in the sense that beasley can come in and score 20 ppg right now...rose may struggle at 1st as all young pg's do but at the end of the day he could be the better player, i am not going to lie

that said, we need inside scoring and thats not something we can pick up w/ the MLE like we could w/ a pg and yes beasley can score inside i dont care if you dont believe me coold, he just happens to have the ability to play outside too, hes amare but a little less explosive and mixed w/ some carmelo w/ kg intensity
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Post#31 » by CoolD » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:54 pm

miamiballer wrote:for the heat, id love to have amare but you have to realized that beasley is more nba ready than rose is in the sense that beasley can come in and score 20 ppg right now...rose may struggle at 1st as all young pg's do but at the end of the day he could be the better player, i am not going to lie

that said, we need inside scoring and thats not something we can pick up w/ the MLE like we could w/ a pg and yes beasley can score inside i dont care if you dont believe me coold, he just happens to have the ability to play outside too, hes amare but a little less explosive and mixed w/ some carmelo w/ kg intensity
Rose is a pointguard, there is no way he will try to have over 20 points per game his rookie season. But there is no doubt he will have the most impact in his rookie season. I want to see how will Beasley do all the small things. Play defense, pass, make his teammates better. When I look at Rose, he has the potential of being the LeBron James of pointguards. Just scary.

Like their college year Beasley padded his stats, got dumped in the second round of the tourney. Rose was part of a team that had the most single season wins in a College season. Besides his Overtime that he was hurt in the title game, the guy had expectacular games, when it counted in the tourney.

Without a doubt. Playing winning basketball was what Rose demonstrated, making exquiste passes, creating a tempo. Beasley showed he was about his big individual stats, to be the first pick.
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Post#32 » by miamiballer » Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:27 pm

rose is also on a much much better team than beasley was....instead of dumping on beasley you should give him some credit for putting together an unreal season...rose is awesome also but our team needs a frontcourt scorer more than anything else...
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Post#33 » by SmushedPennies » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:19 pm

miamiballer wrote:plus beasley can still fill out his frame more when he gets into nba condition..hes more like 6'9 3/4 not 6'9...by the time hes in the nba and grows into his body i bet hes 6'10 250...a 6'10 250 lb monster who can score at will inside and out.


http://www.draftexpress.com/article/200 ... -Analysis/

Where do you keep getting 6-9 and 3/4ths from? These are the last official measurements of the players.
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Post#34 » by jaseda510 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:39 pm

there's a huge difference between 6-9 in shoes, 6-9.75 in shoes, or 6-9.75 barefoot

Let's hope its not the former, but first we must pray for the #1 pick for this all to matter :pray: :pray: :pray:
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Post#35 » by theFRANCHISE » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:57 pm

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Post#36 » by GnarlsOakley » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:12 pm

right now the Heat kinda remind me of the old Bulls teams (this is kinda a stretch, but...)
DWade=Jordan, Marion=Pippen (versatility), and Haslem=Rodman (dirty work, etc.)

except those Bulls were never fortunate enough to ever have a lottery pick! do you pick a backcourt running-mate for DWade, and have two dominant guards for the next decade? or do you pick an athletic frontcourt player to complement Marion and allow him to play more on the perimeter? either way, the team is gonna be stacked for the future, just get a defensive center.

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