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Post#21 » by bgassassin » Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:22 am

This article talks about some of the apparent deals that have been discussed between the two teams.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/20 ... t-of-talk/

Commercial Appeal wrote:Conley at heart of trade talk; Griz don't want guard included in draft deals

By Ronald Tillery (Contact), Memphis Commercial Appeal
Wednesday, June 25, 2008

The Grizzlies are working to acquire the No. 2 overall pick Thursday in the NBA draft, but they aren't willing to sacrifice point guard Mike Conley.

The inclination to keep Conley, the No. 4 overall pick in the 2007 draft, was characterized Tuesday by those familiar with the discussions as an organizational decision -- meaning ownership, management and the coaching staff are opposed to a deal that would send Conley as part of a package to the Miami Heat in exchange for the presumed right to draft forward Michael Beasley of Kansas State at No. 2.

Guard Mike Conley has been mentioned in a number of trade rumors, but many within the organization say they want to keep the young guard in Memphis.

Griz general manager Chris Wallace couldn't be reached for comment Tuesday but has said the franchise is exploring all options as it prepares to make the fifth pick.

The first pick is expected to be University of Memphis guard Derrick Rose by Chicago.

The Griz and Heat have talked for weeks about possibly swapping first-round picks. Reportedly, Miami originally sought a deal that would give them Mike Miller, Kyle Lowry and the Grizzlies' No. 5 pick. The Griz countered with a variation of that trade, only they prefer to substitute the No. 5 selection with their No. 28 pick.

Both proposed trades included other players from both teams to make the deals work under the league's salary cap.

Miami has expressed interest in moving Mark Blount and Marcus Banks. Memphis' longstanding preference has been to unload Brian Cardinal and the remainder of his contract.

According to ESPN.com, the Heat's latest proposal wanted the Griz to send Miller, Conley and the No. 5 pick for the No. 2 pick and Daequan Cook. It's a high price tag, according to sources who acknowledge the team's willingness to part with Miller and Lowry.

Another report has the Grizzlies sending Conley, Miller and the No. 5 pick to Miami for Udonis Haslim, Cook and the No. 2 selection.

Miller, a veteran whom the Griz may have to consider negotiating a contract extension, can be used as an asset to help the team advance its youth movement. Lowry is considered expendable given the Grizzlies' depth at point guard.

Conley is a player the franchise is counting on to develop alongside Rudy Gay on a team starved for talent. He has to develop a consistent outside shot, but the assertiveness he displayed toward the end of his rookie season provided reason for optimism.

Conley began to improve his effectiveness in pick-and-roll situations and finish stronger at the rim. His quickness and athleticism are considered obvious tools for helping the Griz improve on defense.

It's possible the Grizzlies will explore several different avenues if there is a roadblock with Miami.

One report has the Grizzlies sending the No. 5 pick and Brian Cardinal to the New York Knicks for David Lee and other considerations. Another is the Griz sending the 28th pick along with Lowry to Denver in exchange for the No. 20 pick and possibly forward Linas Kleiza. The deal would give the Griz an earlier shot at drafting Western Kentucky guard Courtney Lee, who was impressive in his Memphis workout.
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Re: MIA/MEM 

Post#22 » by Flix360 » Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:13 am

to be honest i wont even trade beasley even if mem was to deal the 5th, unless mayo is there but i still dont think we shud interest in him.

and haslem for 5th is done in a heartbeat, one poster in this thread meant, could this be why we worked out bayless and mayo?

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Re: MIA/MEM 

Post#23 » by Hoops23 » Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:21 pm

During the NBA Draft special on ESPN it was brought up that a deal was being discussed that would send Haslem to Memphis in exchange for the #5 overall pick. I love Haslem but this trade would be awesome. I cant see why Memphis would do it
Why will the Grizz choose to trade the #5 for Haslem than a package from NY that will dump Cardinal's contract while getting Lee?
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Post#24 » by HeatSince88 » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:08 pm

Lee would has to be extended soon, so by the time Malik Rose's contract would come off the books, the Grizz would have to commit big money to Lee to keep him. Probably around the same Haslem's getting right now.

So all told, the Lee/Rose deal would be about the same financially for the Grizz as the Haslem deal.

They apparently view Marc Gasol as a top center, considering him a Top 5 pick if he came out this year, and really want that "rugged PF role player" type to complement him.

All that being said, I still don't see us getting #5 for Haslem. The Grizz are a team that still needs impact players, not upgrades on role players, and that #5 pick is their best chance at getting impact.
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Post#25 » by SJ2100 » Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:27 pm

HeatSince88 wrote:They apparently view Marc Gasol as a top center, considering him a Top 5 pick if he came out this year, and really want that "rugged PF role player" type to complement him.


I would be very surprised if they actually see Marc Gasol as a top center with an offensive game. I saw him play in the European Championship game this past fall against Russia, and he looks to me more like the Robin Lopez to Pau's Brook. But, hey, with Chris Wallace running the show, I wouldn't be surprised if the Grizzlies want to get that rugged PF role player to put next to him.
Another thing I have heard is that Iavoaroni prefers to get the "Phoenix-style 4" to go with that roster.
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Post#26 » by pramis123 » Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:23 pm

If Memphis is really considering trading their #5 and B. Cardinal's contract to NY for David Lee, I cannot understand why Miami could not make a similar move by sending Haslem and Cook (multiple reports have them really wanting Cook since last year) for their #5 and B. Cardinal (worry about his buy out later). We have to keep Beasley and should only be talkng to other teams about aquiring an additional lotto pick to get Mayo/Bayless or B. Lopez.

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