Samuel Dalembert - Per Hoopshype

[WD]

From Ira:

Q: With Samuel Dalembert being very interested in playing for the Heat, the question is how much interest can he generate from the Heat? Wouldn’t he be a major upgrade over the current situation? — Martin.

A: I honestly don’t think he would be a major upgrade. There is a reason the 76ers, who very much needed a center themselves, decided they had seen enough. He is a player who can have moments, but the consistency has not been there. He is not my idea of an ultimate upgrade.

LOL your using Ira as reference to his basketball IQ? Ira is good for news and behind the scenes info, but not evaulating or analysing the game of basketball. LOL @ Dalembert is not an upgrade what a moronic statement. Moving Dalembert had to do with money and investing in the future. It had nothing to do with Dalembert not being a good player lol. Philly overpaid for Dalembert and moved him to make the team more money friendly. Thats like saying Chandler wasnt an upgrade over Dampier for Dallas, there is a reason why Oklahoma, and Charlotte didnt want him lol.

No, I am using the info as just that "info" - that's why when the info does not come from me directly, I always state where it comes from.

[DefenseWins]

I like Ira's news but some of the things he says and writes up is just.... ugh...

Yeah not good for analysis lol.

Dalembert averaged more rebs than Big Z and Joel combined lol. That's an upgrade IMO.

[BIRDMAN BIRDMAN]

Wasnt Ira that tool who said we should ditch the 2010 plan and go get Kirilenko and Redd instead to pair up with Wade?

[twoolfork1]

From Ira:

Q: With Samuel Dalembert being very interested in playing for the Heat, the question is how much interest can he generate from the Heat? Wouldn’t he be a major upgrade over the current situation? — Martin.

A: I honestly don’t think he would be a major upgrade. There is a reason the 76ers, who very much needed a center themselves, decided they had seen enough. He is a player who can have moments, but the consistency has not been there. He is not my idea of an ultimate upgrade.

LOL your using Ira as reference to his basketball IQ? Ira is good for news and behind the scenes info, but not evaulating or analysing the game of basketball. LOL @ Dalembert is not an upgrade what a moronic statement. Moving Dalembert had to do with money and investing in the future. It had nothing to do with Dalembert not being a good player lol. Philly overpaid for Dalembert and moved him to make the team more money friendly. Thats like saying Chandler wasnt an upgrade over Dampier for Dallas, there is a reason why Oklahoma, and Charlotte didnt want him lol.

Kings fan here. I think Dalembert and Joel Anthony are similiar players in terms of strengths and weaknesses and styles. Dalembert is certainly the better player but he is not a HUGE upgrade or anything like that. He'd definatly be a good fit if Anthony came of the bench there would be better depth too.

[Chosen01]

Lol at Ira, dude has lost any credibility he had.

Dalembert is basically a richman's Joel Anthony for the simple fact that he can roll to the basket finish around the rim,CATCH, finish lobs and pass to an OPEN team mate while being comparable on defense.Did people forget his 18 and 13 against the Heat?I'd love to see Joel produce half that stat line.

Honestly, this all we need a center to do:

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[Mars]

Someone give me a shout the moment Joel puts up an 11 game sampling anywhere near the neighborhood of what Dalembert recently posted during his final 18 games to close out this past season...

27 PTS, 16 REB, .625 FG
16 PTS, 10 REB, .636 FG
26 PTS, 17 REB, .650 FG
11 PTS, 12 REB, .500 FG
16 PTS, 10 REB, .462 FG
13 PTS, 19 REB, .444 FG
10 PTS, 12 REB, .625 FG
21 PTS, 15 REB, .667 FG
12 PTS, 10 REB, .500 FG
17 PTS, 16 REB, .400 FG
16 PTS, 18 REB, .615 FG

[twix2500]

Kings fan here. I think Dalembert and Joel Anthony are similiar players in terms of strengths and weaknesses and styles. Dalembert is certainly the better player but he is not a HUGE upgrade or anything like that. He'd definatly be a good fit if Anthony came of the bench there would be better depth too.

Joel Anthony 4 rbs a game to Dalembert 8 rbs a game, is a HUGE upgrade LOL.

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[Tim_Hardawayy]

While Heat fans can underrate Joel at times, I definitely feel he's vastly overrated by fans of other teams. Dalembert, as mediocre as he is, is still about twice the player Joel is.

Joel Anthony played center with Chris Bosh, LeBron James and Dwyane Wade and we still didn't win a title. That should tell you all you need to know about Joel Anthony.

[SweetTouch]

I just want a true center.
The thought of having to watch Joel play the C position makes me not miss basketball

[ropjhk]

Joel Anthony, Jamaal Magloire, Sam Dalembert...

The Heat would have a very Canadian tilt to their team.

Just bring in Steve Nash, and even though he's not Canadian Vince Carter can join Bosh as former Raptor franchise players on the Heat.

[twoolfork1]

Kings fan here. I think Dalembert and Joel Anthony are similiar players in terms of strengths and weaknesses and styles. Dalembert is certainly the better player but he is not a HUGE upgrade or anything like that. He'd definatly be a good fit if Anthony came of the bench there would be better depth too.

Joel Anthony 4 rbs a game to Dalembert 8 rbs a game, is a HUGE upgrade LOL.]

Depends how you define HUGE I guess. Dalembert is certainly the better player but he's not going to do anything spectacular that Joel is uncapable of doing.

[DWadeno3]

Kings fan here. I think Dalembert and Joel Anthony are similiar players in terms of strengths and weaknesses and styles. Dalembert is certainly the better player but he is not a HUGE upgrade or anything like that. He'd definatly be a good fit if Anthony came of the bench there would be better depth too.

Joel Anthony 4 rbs a game to Dalembert 8 rbs a game, is a HUGE upgrade LOL.]

Depends how you define HUGE I guess. Dalembert is certainly the better player but he's not going to do anything spectacular that Joel is uncapable of doing.

Yes he is, his size alone is an upgreade over Joel. He's stronger down low and a better post-defender in general. We weren't able to play Joel all that much against the Bulls because in most games, the size of Chicago bothered him and hurt us. Additionally, Dalembert is an upgrade offensively. He's a reliable option off the pick and roll, as he's capable of catching a ball and finishing around the rim and can also score against size. He's also shown flashes of a decent jump shot which will make our offense in general so much better when we don't have to play 4-on-5 all the time.

Last season we always had to sacrifice something when one of our centers was on the court. Z and Dampier were slower than anybody out there and thus burned our defense multiple times, especially on pick and roll and pick and pop scenarios, while Joel was a liability on offense and often times lacked size defensively which killed us in the rebounding department. Dalembert combines the strengths of all those players and while it's nothing spectacular, it'll boost our play a lot.

[Wade2k6]

Depends how you define HUGE I guess. Dalembert is certainly the better player but he's not going to do anything spectacular that Joel is uncapable of doing.

No, there is a big difference. Dalembert averaged 8.1 ppg last season, Joel Anthony didn't score more then 8 the entire year (and scored exactly 8 points twice). Dalembert averaged 8.2 rebounds per game last season, Joel Anthony grabbed more then 8 rebounds 4 times and exactly 8 rebounds 2 times. Dalembert scored 15 points or more 16 times last year, and has grabbed 12 rebounds or more 18 times.

[Heej]

Joel's defining quality is that he's one of the premier pick and roll defending bigs we have in this league, and to be completely honest one of the best pnr defenders I've ever had the pleasure of watching, he truly is that agile. The thing is, Dalembert provides about 75-80% of what Joel can provide in pnr defense if not more while bringing a great deal more to the table. We may be overstating how much of an improvement he is, but he is anywhere from a substantial improvement to a massive one over Joel.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I don't know, I may be overstating it, but I think we easily win the title this year if you replace Joel with Dalembert.

Even if LeBron plays like a passive vagina like he did in the Finals, you now have a guy that can actually finish at the hoop, you have a distinct rebounding advantage over Dallas, Tyson Chandler is no longer dominating you, AND Wade can still handle the lion's share of the offense like he did.

That being said, we still should've been able to win regardless. But adding a Dalembert covers a lot of our weaknesses without really sacrificing any of our strengths.

[Heej]

I don't know, I may be overstating it, but I think we easily win the title this year if you replace Joel with Dalembert.

Even if LeBron plays like a passive vagina like he did in the Finals, you now have a guy that can actually finish at the hoop, you have a distinct rebounding advantage over Dallas, Tyson Chandler is no longer dominating you, AND Wade can still handle the lion's share of the offense like he did.

That being said, we still should've been able to win regardless. But adding a Dalembert covers a lot of our weaknesses without really sacrificing any of our strengths.

I honestly think the biggest thing Dalembert will do is the impact he'll make on our defense and the amount of effort required from our wings to make it work. As of now we run one of the most wing-intensive perimeter oriented defenses in the league.

Almost every team that has a comparable defense to us has some sort of defensive anchor in the paint, but despite our lack of one we've ranked near the top of the league almost entirely due to Lebron and Wade providing superior help defense and functioning as quasi-anchors, along with airtight rotations from all of our perimeter players and power forwards. This style of defense is incredibly demanding physically and our guys kept it up for 82 games in the regular season and got after it with double the effort during the playoffs. That **** is tiring.

With a good defensive anchor like Dalembert we can rework our defensive system to something like the Zo-era Heat where we could count on our guy in the middle to alter shots around the rim while still not losing quality rebounding position. All that energy we don't expend on the defensive end can be used to run decent offensive sets. Fans don't realize that running a good offense requires just as much exertion as running a good defense, and now our guys will have more left in the tank for that end of the court.

You don't rank at the top of the league in FG% around the rim without a quality defensive anchor without a massive amount of effort from your perimeter players. This is why our guys wore down, and hopefully this is what Sammy D can come in here to fix.

[GreenHat]

Kings fan here. I think Dalembert and Joel Anthony are similiar players in terms of strengths and weaknesses and styles. Dalembert is certainly the better player but he is not a HUGE upgrade or anything like that. He'd definatly be a good fit if Anthony came of the bench there would be better depth too.

Joel Anthony 4 rbs a game to Dalembert 8 rbs a game, is a HUGE upgrade LOL.]

Depends how you define HUGE I guess. Dalembert is certainly the better player but he's not going to do anything spectacular that Joel is uncapable of doing.

Rebounding? Catching? Finishing?

It doesn't take the "spectacular" to do what Joel is incapable of doing (as of yet).

I disagree with those thinking that it will greatly improve our defense. If you consider rebounding as a separate issue from defense, there have been very few players ever who have been better than Joel. Of course the opposite is true on offense.

[Dezmondballins3]

Joel would be great play 5-10 mpg.