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Detroit Pistons @ Miami Heat | 6:00 P.M. ET| 4/8

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Re: Detroit Pistons @ Miami Heat | 6:00 P.M. ET| 4/8 

Post#301 » by DWadeno3 » Mon Apr 9, 2012 7:44 pm

iboxlefty wrote:e]

Jesus Christ!!!, its like your obsession with Wade hinders your comprehension skills and halts your ability to view anything objectively..

I said we NEEEEEEEEEEED wade to win a chip, there is no way we win without wade with this team

It's a fact, not an opinion...production of other players go up without wade to compensate for his absence


It is IMPERATIVE we get the same/similar production from our bench even when wade plays. Our bench has generally sucked and we all know that.


All I said was we need everyone to have the same energy even when Wade is playing. we could only hope for a complete team with everyone contributing. You somehow feel this is an attack on wade.???

Stop being so insecure about us playing well without wade and actually read what im saying. We wont win a ring without wade but unless lebron wade and bosh plan to be superhuman in the playoffs, we won't win without a bench either


It's easy to call it "an obsession with Wade" when your points have been proven wrong and you have no other argument to defend yourself. You claimed we have to figure out how to get the bench to play well with Wade when your only evidence is an increase in production from these guys, which is natural, as I stated before. An increase in production under these circumstances, however, does not mean an increase in energy and better overall play. Who played better in this game, for example, than they usually do except for JJ, who always produces when he hits the court though?

During our wins without Wade, none of these players played siginificantly better than they did before. All they did was produce better stats due to increased opportunities, which leads you to believe they actually played better and makes you believe we have to figure out how to get them to play well when Wade is back, when it really isn't an issue. You're trying to create a problem when there really isn't one.
Last year in the playoffs, Miller, Bosh and UD easily filled in when Wade was struggling. In the previous series, other players stepped up when they had to, such as JJ with his 25 points or Joel with his overall play against Boston for example. The only time we faltered as a team was in the Finals, when we had a massive meltdown for whatever reason.
The fact that we play well without Wade only speaks for our increased depth, which is comforting to know, as we will be able to fall back on these guys in case one of our Big Three is off.
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Re: Detroit Pistons @ Miami Heat | 6:00 P.M. ET| 4/8 

Post#302 » by iboxlefty » Mon Apr 9, 2012 10:04 pm

DWadeno3 wrote:
iboxlefty wrote:e]

Jesus Christ!!!, its like your obsession with Wade hinders your comprehension skills and halts your ability to view anything objectively..

I said we NEEEEEEEEEEED wade to win a chip, there is no way we win without wade with this team

It's a fact, not an opinion...production of other players go up without wade to compensate for his absence


It is IMPERATIVE we get the same/similar production from our bench even when wade plays. Our bench has generally sucked and we all know that.


All I said was we need everyone to have the same energy even when Wade is playing. we could only hope for a complete team with everyone contributing. You somehow feel this is an attack on wade.???

Stop being so insecure about us playing well without wade and actually read what im saying. We wont win a ring without wade but unless lebron wade and bosh plan to be superhuman in the playoffs, we won't win without a bench either


It's easy to call it "an obsession with Wade" when your points have been proven wrong and you have no other argument to defend yourself. You claimed we have to figure out how to get the bench to play well with Wade when your only evidence is an increase in production from these guys, which is natural, as I stated before. An increase in production under these circumstances, however, does not mean an increase in energy and better overall play. Who played better in this game, for example, than they usually do except for JJ, who always produces when he hits the court though?

During our wins without Wade, none of these players played siginificantly better than they did before. All they did was produce better stats due to increased opportunities, which leads you to believe they actually played better and makes you believe we have to figure out how to get them to play well when Wade is back, when it really isn't an issue. You're trying to create a problem when there really isn't one.
Last year in the playoffs, Miller, Bosh and UD easily filled in when Wade was struggling. In the previous series, other players stepped up when they had to, such as JJ with his 25 points or Joel with his overall play against Boston for example. The only time we faltered as a team was in the Finals, when we had a massive meltdown for whatever reason.
The fact that we play well without Wade only speaks for our increased depth, which is comforting to know, as we will be able to fall back on these guys in case one of our Big Three is off.



I dont even know what to say to you anymore, apparently we only have depth when Wade doesn't play.

If you don't see that Bosh, chalmers, JJ and miller all produced better in the time wade has been out you're blind. In fact our best 3 POINT shooter doesn't even barely play when Wade plays.

Your desperate attempts to defend Wade when he doesn't even need to be defended is crazy to me. And you really think I couldn't find numbers to prove our players play better when Wade doesnt, I really need to prove this? You don't see It? Damn
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Re: Detroit Pistons @ Miami Heat | 6:00 P.M. ET| 4/8 

Post#303 » by DWadeno3 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:42 pm

iboxlefty wrote:
DWadeno3 wrote:
iboxlefty wrote:e]

Jesus Christ!!!, its like your obsession with Wade hinders your comprehension skills and halts your ability to view anything objectively..

I said we NEEEEEEEEEEED wade to win a chip, there is no way we win without wade with this team

It's a fact, not an opinion...production of other players go up without wade to compensate for his absence


It is IMPERATIVE we get the same/similar production from our bench even when wade plays. Our bench has generally sucked and we all know that.


All I said was we need everyone to have the same energy even when Wade is playing. we could only hope for a complete team with everyone contributing. You somehow feel this is an attack on wade.???

Stop being so insecure about us playing well without wade and actually read what im saying. We wont win a ring without wade but unless lebron wade and bosh plan to be superhuman in the playoffs, we won't win without a bench either


It's easy to call it "an obsession with Wade" when your points have been proven wrong and you have no other argument to defend yourself. You claimed we have to figure out how to get the bench to play well with Wade when your only evidence is an increase in production from these guys, which is natural, as I stated before. An increase in production under these circumstances, however, does not mean an increase in energy and better overall play. Who played better in this game, for example, than they usually do except for JJ, who always produces when he hits the court though?

During our wins without Wade, none of these players played siginificantly better than they did before. All they did was produce better stats due to increased opportunities, which leads you to believe they actually played better and makes you believe we have to figure out how to get them to play well when Wade is back, when it really isn't an issue. You're trying to create a problem when there really isn't one.
Last year in the playoffs, Miller, Bosh and UD easily filled in when Wade was struggling. In the previous series, other players stepped up when they had to, such as JJ with his 25 points or Joel with his overall play against Boston for example. The only time we faltered as a team was in the Finals, when we had a massive meltdown for whatever reason.
The fact that we play well without Wade only speaks for our increased depth, which is comforting to know, as we will be able to fall back on these guys in case one of our Big Three is off.



I dont even know what to say to you anymore, apparently we only have depth when Wade doesn't play.

If you don't see that Bosh, chalmers, JJ and miller all produced better in the time wade has been out you're blind. In fact our best 3 POINT shooter doesn't even barely play when Wade plays.

Your desperate attempts to defend Wade when he doesn't even need to be defended is crazy to me. And you really think I couldn't find numbers to prove our players play better when Wade doesnt, I really need to prove this? You don't see It? Damn


Since you're not willing to understand any of my points, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Re: Detroit Pistons @ Miami Heat | 6:00 P.M. ET| 4/8 

Post#304 » by arsenic » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:09 pm

Well Bosh admits it.

“The urgency does go up a long more when we don’t have Dwyane in there,” Bosh said.


“Our challenge all year has been to play that same way with him on the court and that’s really the last frontier for us. If we bring that same sense of urgency when he’s out there I think that’ll be good for us. We’ve done it in spurts but we haven’t done it consistently. In order to win a title I think that’s the level we’re going to have to play at.”


But we've all seen Bosh talk a big game before about being more aggressive, and it just doesn't ever really happen, not nearly enough. Playoffs is a different monster though, so perhaps those guys will own up to it then, on the court. Not just in interviews.

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