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Elephant in the room: UD looks done

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Re: Elephant in the room: UD looks done 

Post#41 » by Axel » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:06 am

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GameTime_3 wrote:Its sad to watch...but UD is pretty terrible now. He still fights and shows you some passion but as a BASKETBALL PLAYER the guy is a shell. Can't shoot, can't rebound, undersized, can't pass......


Can't rebound? Yeah 9.9 RPG per 36 are a true indicator of his inability to rebound. Can't score? Well how about 9.3 PPG per 36. That's not great, but it's rock-solid. People on this forum have a tendency to just throw s*** at players without checking the facts. Just because said player is not playing well, one might as well tear him apart. I expected more from you GT3.
By the way, I'm not saying UD is playing well, but he's not completely useless either.


Haslem hustles but how many of those boards come in traffic? His jumper is gone and now he can't catch. Haslem is all hert but lack of size and jumper makes him Wat?


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Re: Elephant in the room: UD looks done 

Post#42 » by FlashKing » Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:55 am

The guy is mimicking Pittman's game right now. He looks like a bumbling buffoon out there. Can't catch a pass, can't shoot, boards slipping through his fingers. Mike Miller should take all his minutes.
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Re: Elephant in the room: UD looks done 

Post#43 » by Seabass777 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:08 pm

I still got confidence in UD,and it will take some more time for him getting his feet wet.It really doesn't help him with the addition of Rashard Lewis and him getting minutes,but he will get a good spot in this rotation on his track record alone and the sacrifices he's made.The last big moment I remember from him was in the Pacers series last year in the semi-finals game 4 he came up big for us,gotta give Haslem some time.

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Re: Elephant in the room: UD looks done 

Post#44 » by kyphi » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:40 pm

His contract is reasonable, and Riley is going to be loyal to a local boy. Reduce his minutes and use him for fouls. I would be disappointed if he was traded.
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Re: Elephant in the room: UD looks done 

Post#45 » by koko88 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:32 pm

he looks very bad at the moment to be honest. the only thing that i like in his game in the beginning of the season is his rebounding

the idea of him and norris cole in the same lineup with lebron on the bench is terrible.
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Post#46 » by ricochet » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:35 pm

He looks really bad out there right now..

the problem is not his heart, hustle, shooting or even athletic ability.. He's fine in those areas..

It's the inability to catch the ball and hold on to it.. It's so so so bad right now.. He can't catch pin-point passes and rebound in traffic.. the smallest hint of a challenge while rebounding or trying to catch a pass and the ball slips through his hands.. It's extremely frustrating..
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Post#47 » by This IsMy House » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:52 pm

Meanwhile he's still getting about 5 rebounds a game and shooting 55%.
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Post#48 » by CablexDeadpool » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:02 pm

This IsMy House wrote:Meanwhile he's still getting about 5 rebounds a game and shooting 55%.



he's only getting 17 mins a game, his per 36 is right on his career averages.


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Re: Elephant in the room: UD looks done 

Post#49 » by This IsMy House » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:31 pm

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This IsMy House wrote:Meanwhile he's still getting about 5 rebounds a game and shooting 55%.



he's only getting 17 mins a game, his per 36 is right on his career averages.


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Exactly which is why I dont get why people think hes "done". Having him out there in general is a boost to the team, the man is a warrior and is always scrapping for the ball and playing great defense. His shot might not be all that great, but its really not out there for his offense. Similar to people complaining that Ray Allen is a lock down defender, well no crap. We knew this when he came here, but Miami didnt want him for defense, they wanted his 3pt shooting.
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Re: Elephant in the room: UD looks done 

Post#50 » by Nitro1118 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:41 pm

My only issue with Udonis isn't even his fault...he's playing C FARRRR too much. 28% of Miami's C minutes go to Haslem, as opposed to just 6% at PF. He's getting murdered at C defensively, giving up over a 20PER to his counterpart, while getting outrebounded significantly.

It doesn't help his jumper has been ****, either. But if he was playing his natural position his deficiencies wouldn't be nearly as eye-catching.
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Re: Elephant in the room: UD looks done 

Post#51 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:40 pm

I agree he needs a few more games, but it is concerning.

He will always give warrior type effort tho. Should have never cut the rows
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Re: Elephant in the room: UD looks done 

Post#52 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:01 pm

For those that needed to refresh their memory, why Udonis is Heat basketball and can never be counted out.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamih ... ding-story

Come on UD, get that sweet jumper back.
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Re: Elephant in the room: UD looks done 

Post#53 » by RexBoyWonder » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:52 pm

OK, look.

We all love UD, for obvious reasons. But Spo needs to do some real thinking. The team should always comes first.

The big problem with UD now is not his broken jumper (which does make things worse) - it's his defense. He's lost more then a step. he's not mobile enough to play good D as a PF, and not big enough to play C. he's not a shot blocker, never was, and gets tossed around out there. he keep falling, just yesterday he fell on Battier's knee.

On offense, he became Joel like. On defense, Joel is much better. UD is still a good rebounder, but that's really all he's good for now. and he's not a leauge leader or close to it either.

Yet he keeps getting minutes while Joel and even Harrellson never sniff the court.

The Jumper might come back back (WHEN?!) but the lost athleticism and strength WILL NOT. and that's the real problem looking forward.

I feel a change is needed, before we start droping games and while we still have time to adjust.
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