It's too bad we wasted a hot shooting night by LeBron. The guy could not miss from the outside, I wish he would've kept shooting the ball because nobody else was hitting much (save for Bosh, but those were a quiet 28). That's where you see how much we miss Wade, because our superstars are the consistent work horses offensively.
Other than that, it's the old problem of not taking those games seriously. They run tons of pick and rolls with Bynum and he either gets a drive because we don't hedge hard enough or he hits the guy rolling to the basket because the 2nd rotation isn't there or he finds a shooter because the 3rd/4th rotation isn't there. They hit some tough shots, but it was all a matter of our effort never really picking up.
Give the Pistons credit though, they knew how to find their open shots within our defensive scheme. At halftime Bynum said it often times was a pick your poison situation on those high screen and rolls for us, which is exactly right.
It was embarrassing to watch, but nothing to be worried about.
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Things Spo should know by now, but somehow still doesn't :
1. Mario has trouble defending quick PG's. he just does. making him defend Bynum for most of the game will not make his feet get magically quicker. When you see this issue starting to hurt us in a game, put Cole in BEFORE the opposing guard is having a carrer night and gets into a crazy confidence rhythm.
2. Allem, Miller, and to a lesser extent Mario have trouble keeping their man infront of them on defense.
when you play them togther, it feels like the ship is leaking from multiple holes. we cant keep track. that's too much liabilities at once to overcome. When you play Miller and Allen without Joel around, it's even worst beacuse we have no other great rim protector and we need one when those 2 play.
3. Haslem isn't really a better offensive weapon then Joel. its time to face the music. he's a slightly better rebounder and a MUCH worst defender. He's not a real big man, doesnt change shots on D..let alone block them. he offers very very little at this point..mainly effort.
4.Cole is struglling to get confidence in shot, if he start a game hot, maybe you should'nt put him back on the bench for an hour, maybe it's better to BUILD his confidence and rythem and not break him.
5. Bosh needs a strong physical player next to him to bring the best out of him. Battier is fine for SOME games, NOT ALL GAMES. Haslem is a place holder that brings nothing significant. If Spo doesn't believe in Joel and Jorts, fine. in that case we have to trade for a decent big..it's the biggest issue this team has. Bosh next to Battier and Haslem isn't cutting it on the defensive end, it's not about effort..it's about skills and physical tools they dont have.
1. Mario has trouble defending quick PG's. he just does. making him defend Bynum for most of the game will not make his feet get magically quicker. When you see this issue starting to hurt us in a game, put Cole in BEFORE the opposing guard is having a carrer night and gets into a crazy confidence rhythm.
2. Allem, Miller, and to a lesser extent Mario have trouble keeping their man infront of them on defense.
when you play them togther, it feels like the ship is leaking from multiple holes. we cant keep track. that's too much liabilities at once to overcome. When you play Miller and Allen without Joel around, it's even worst beacuse we have no other great rim protector and we need one when those 2 play.
3. Haslem isn't really a better offensive weapon then Joel. its time to face the music. he's a slightly better rebounder and a MUCH worst defender. He's not a real big man, doesnt change shots on D..let alone block them. he offers very very little at this point..mainly effort.
4.Cole is struglling to get confidence in shot, if he start a game hot, maybe you should'nt put him back on the bench for an hour, maybe it's better to BUILD his confidence and rythem and not break him.
5. Bosh needs a strong physical player next to him to bring the best out of him. Battier is fine for SOME games, NOT ALL GAMES. Haslem is a place holder that brings nothing significant. If Spo doesn't believe in Joel and Jorts, fine. in that case we have to trade for a decent big..it's the biggest issue this team has. Bosh next to Battier and Haslem isn't cutting it on the defensive end, it's not about effort..it's about skills and physical tools they dont have.
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we showed urgency late third early fourth thats the problem. problem is there is no urgency all game only in spurts. Detroit deserved this win. Lebron was phenomenal though probably one of the best games ive seen him play, his shot was on point. Bosh tried to get aggressive, didnt get many calls but sitll went hard to the rim but it was all too little and too late. These are things that we should be doing all the time from the tipoff and not jsut went we are down 15 points. Cole played great D on Bynum stayed in front of him the entire time and made some great feeds to bosh and Joel (Joel cant catch) but Bynum couldnt miss, cant fault Cole on that one. Correct adjsut would have been to put someone taller on him.
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I dunno if this has to do with practices again.
remember when at some time this year we werent playing right? and spo said somewhere bout training being light.
and this week he said, we will give pittman to d-league..because training will be light again.
Personally i dont care for regular season... we will turn it come playoffs
remember when at some time this year we werent playing right? and spo said somewhere bout training being light.
and this week he said, we will give pittman to d-league..because training will be light again.
Personally i dont care for regular season... we will turn it come playoffs
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TRG wrote:TheDon008 wrote:TRG wrote:
And if a player like Rondo did the same to Wade you'd be saying the same thing right?![]()
Lets try to be a little objective here.
OBJECTIVE?!
Let me get this straight, Rondo - Grabs wade by the neck on opening night no suspenision, no flagarent, Not 20 somthing threads on how he's a dirty player.
AND HEAT FANS
Tell me to be objective when Wade (the franchises MOST DECORATED PLAYER EVER) gets suspended for something he Repeatedly said was non intentional. Heat fans? Really? Its bad enough Im hearing Wade being dirty from Boston fans, NY Fans, And the entire GB, But damn, Our own Phucking team wont back up their franchise player. What the hell his going on?
Ask Yourselves, The 50 times that KG has done something dirty, and You (as heat fans) got upset about it.
Do you think Celtic fans dogged their guy out? Nope. They had his back. Especially when he said it wasnt intentional.
We're the most hated team in the NBA of course guys are going to find excuses to (try) to belittle our team whenever possible. There's no need to get angry about it and act like the league is out to get us when Wade himself has already said that he has moved on and will be ready for the next game.
Whether the foul was intentional or not doesn't really matter to me... I've always loved when Wade stands up for his teammates and himself (something I wish LeBron would do more), but going for the family jewels is 100% unacceptable in any circumstance. IMO if he really didn't mean to do that he would have at least tried to apologize afterwards. That's why I think the NBA thought it was okay to give him the suspension.
But regardless I can't help but question the Heat fans that really do think Wade is a dirty player now. He's hot-headed for sure, but dirty? That's just silly.
The "guys" you speak of, are HEAT FANS! Thats ridiculous!
Everything else you said had nothing to do with my post.
My post was about Heat fans not having their guys back. I dont need you to tell me that hitting a guy in the balls is 100% wrong. I know that. The difference is, whether it was intentional or not, be a true fan and back your favorite team / player. You know damn well boston/ NY would.
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Aye, there's a game today against Milwaukee. Someone make the thread.
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DefenseWins wrote:Aye, there's a game today against Milwaukee. Someone make the thread.
I was going to give it a shot, but I don't think I'm allowed to post pictures yet.