Found this epic gem on the Knicks board

[imchillin]

The funny thing is, we are built almost exactly like the 96 bulls. And the things mentioned in that article and even the way Pippen and Jordan didnt really care about their winning streaks is how we are now. The similarities are so on par it's scary

So basically Walt says the bulls aren't that good when they were great and now we aren't that good and we're not even better than the 96 "now great team" that he said wasn't that good back then lol

[420]

This is from the "Is LeBron the nicest superstar to play with" thread

Tim Duncan has had it pretty good in San Antonio given that he won a title in his 2nd year and played for an awesome GM and coach. And here we are talking about "adversity" which Tim Duncan will probably never experience.

TD is more responsible for the atmosphere in SA than anyone else there.

In a sport where the superstars make the calls and do what they want, hes been a true professional.

Kobe, Dwight, AI, Stat, Wade and the other cancers push and shove their way through coaches and managers until they get what they want.

From the "Was the Heat-Magic game originally on ESPN?" thread.

ESPN is in love with Miami/LeBron so it's no shocker that this was done.
How cool would it be though for a team like the Magic to end the Heat's streak on National TV?

In reality, I will check in to the game & change the channel after the 1st when the Heat lead by double digits.

I seriously think people are underrating this streak. Seriously, every team they face wants to be the one to end it, and nobody can as of yet. They're playing teams that are playing at their very best, even if they aren't in the playoff hunt. I don't care who you are or who you play, when you're a team as hated as the Heat with the consistent dominance over all opponents, this is historic.

It's really not as exciting as you make it seem, quit acting like every team is throwing themselves at the Heat & giving them their all, tanking teams will be tanking teams & they are tanking for a reason. Historic, yes by the numbers, but not nearly by the level of competition or competitiveness of the opponents.

[HeatFanSince87]

The 96 Bulls and the Miami Heat ---- see the irony...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... /index.htm

The Bulls ran off a 13-game winning streak in November and December during which only four of their victims, the New York Knicks, the San Antonio Spurs, Orlando and the Utah Jazz, were more than one game over .500. "Chicago is jumping all over teams, but it's doing it in a league with a dearth of talent that's been watered down even further by expansion," says former Knicks guard and current radio analyst Walt Frazier. "It has two of the best players in the game and one of the best defensive players and rebounders. And that could be enough in the NBA today."

And there's the flaw that won't go away: the Bulls' mediocrity at center, which could be exposed in the playoffs against a dominant big man, particularly Orlando's Shaquille O'Neal. "With Shaq, the Magic have somebody who can really hurt the Bulls inside," says Portland guard Rod Strickland. "Orlando has a lot of versatility"—including All-Star guard Anfernee Hardaway and long-distance shooting ace Dennis Scott—"but because of Michael and Scottie, I'd probably go with the Bulls in the playoffs. Still, the Magic is probably the team that can beat them."

Perhaps. That path to greatness Riley talked about is a long one, and the Bulls might just have enough supplies to make it to the finish. But instead of wondering whether or not they'll get there, maybe the thing to do is just sit back and enjoy the trip.

Pure gold lol

Lol classic! Clyde is identical to 90% of Knicks fans. Hating on better teams and crying about how unfair it is. How pathetic does Clyde look now haha.

[imchillin]

Funny thing. I really don't care if we get considered great for this streak. I just want championships this year and next year and the year after that. Win thats all. Win when it matters. Could give a damn who rates us what on any All time great team

[Alex Trevelyan]

Clyde Frazier is a paid shill for the New York Knicks, but that's not why he's dissing the Heat. He's got a personal agenda here, it's about his pride, every player wants to think that the guy doing it today couldn't do it as well as they did it back in the day, just like your grandparents tell you stories about walking 5-miles to school with cardboard shoes or some such nonsense. Frazier's favorite hobby horse, and he's gone to it to diss the Heat and the Bulls of Jordan's day, is this old saw about the NBA some how being watered down or inferior and that's just a bloody joke.

The NBA today is better by an order of magnitude over the league Frazier played in, so it is an act of unintentional hilarity for him to diss the Heat or the Jordan-era Bulls on the grounds that the league is just not very good today, or wasn't very good in the 90s. It's embarrassing really. Frazier has actually used the term "watered down" to describe the league in the 90s and today. He's called out expansion as one of the culprits. One is left to wonder if Frazier really believes this, or he's just A) this unintelligent or B) so shameless in his hypocrisy he thinks no one will call him on it. In 1965-66 there were 9-teams in the NBA, when the Knicks won their first championship in 69-70, there were 14! When they won their second in 72-73, there were 17! Frazier's career coincides perfectly with the largest period of expansion in the league's history! There were 12-teams when he entered the league, 22-teams when he retired, By his logic his whole career is suspect!

The fact is the 71-72 Lakers' streak and the 72-73 Knicks' championship came at a time when the league was in its weakest state ever. The number of teams was increasing, while the supply of talent decreased because the ABA was poaching some of the best players. When the Knicks won one or both of their titles--Dr. J, Artis Gilmore, George McGiness, Dan Issel, George Gervin, Charlie Scott, Rick Barry and Spencer Haywood, to name only a few, were all playing in the ABA! That's a Hall of Fame team in and of itself. Even an old prig like Bobby Knight is honest enough to admit that the 12th man on a basketball roster today is a better athlete then the superstars of his playing days in the 1960s. Kobe wasn't talking out of his rectum when he said today's Olympic squad would run the original Dream Team out of the building, one could only imagine what an All-Star squad from today would do to one from Frazier's day.

[LoveMyHeat]

^Please keep posting (@alex)

[dreamchaser]

Honestly even if the Heat don't break the 71-72 Lakers streak of 33 str8 wins we're still going to go down as a top 10 team of all-time if we win a championship this year. My uncle & my older brother had the chance to watch basketball back in the 70's, 80's & 90's and they always keep telling me about how the 80's was the best era in basketball because of the competition. You had Magic's Lakers, Bird's Celtics, the Bad Boy Pistons, Portland, Chicago, Philly & Houston. Even tho it was basically Magic vs. Bird for majority of that era, the competition in terms of teams was still at a high level. The 90's was just mainly dominated by the Bulls which is very similar to what the Heat is about to do today. I'm so tired of people making it seem like we have no chance at matching the Bulls from the 90's...

[imchillin]

Clyde Frazier is a paid shill for the New York Knicks, but that's not why he's dissing the Heat. He's got a personal agenda here, it's about his pride, every player wants to think that the guy doing it today couldn't do it as well as they did it back in the day, just like your grandparents tell you stories about walking 5-miles to school with cardboard shoes or some such nonsense. Frazier's favorite hobby horse, and he's gone to it to diss the Heat and the Bulls of Jordan's day, is this old saw about the NBA some how being watered down or inferior and that's just a bloody joke.

The NBA today is better by an order of magnitude over the league Frazier played in, so it is an act of unintentional hilarity for him to diss the Heat or the Jordan-era Bulls on the grounds that the league is just not very good today, or wasn't very good in the 90s. It's embarrassing really. Frazier has actually used the term "watered down" to describe the league in the 90s and today. He's called out expansion as one of the culprits. One is left to wonder if Frazier really believes this, or he's just A) this unintelligent or B) so shameless in his hypocrisy he thinks no one will call him on it. In 1965-66 there were 9-teams in the NBA, when the Knicks won their first championship in 69-70, there were 14! When they won their second in 72-73, there were 17! Frazier's career coincides perfectly with the largest period of expansion in the league's history! There were 12-teams when he entered the league, 22-teams when he retired, By his logic his whole career is suspect!

The fact is the 71-72 Lakers' streak and the 72-73 Knicks' championship came at a time when the league was in its weakest state ever. The number of teams was increasing, while the supply of talent decreased because the ABA was poaching some of the best players. When the Knicks won one or both of their titles--Dr. J, Artis Gilmore, George McGiness, Dan Issel, George Gervin, Charlie Scott, Rick Barry and Spencer Haywood, to name only a few, were all playing in the ABA! That's a Hall of Fame team in and of itself. Even an old prig like Bobby Knight is honest enough to admit that the 12th man on a basketball roster today is a better athlete then the superstars of his playing days in the 1960s. Kobe wasn't talking out of his rectum when he said today's Olympic squad would run the original Dream Team out of the building, one could only imagine what an All-Star squad from today would do to one from Frazier's day.

Great read, especially since i wasn't alive for this. ALways awesome to read this stuff in perspective