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Re: PG: Not good enough 

Post#441 » by Respect My Mind » Sun May 26, 2013 4:19 am

You know what I just realized?

All of this analysis you guys are doing is stupid. If Wade would only raise his level of play, Miami wins both games comfortably. I know he's injured, but hey, Wade's salary is part of the reason the rest of the team is so bad.

At Wade's currently level of play, the bench guys have to play better than they actually are. So what sounds more reasonable to you? Asking Battier/Allen/Cole to step up, or asking Wade to step up?
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Re: PG: Not good enough 

Post#442 » by weouthere » Sun May 26, 2013 4:41 am

Might just have to take the chance and start Bird. Maybe we will get out to a big start and get our confidence up
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Re: PG: Not good enough 

Post#443 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Sun May 26, 2013 6:57 am

weouthere wrote:Hibbert would shoot over Joel and even if he misses he'd get the rebound and put back. Joel would be better on David West


last year joel outplayed hibbert in some games........off memory, game 5 last year - joel held hibbert to 3-10 FG's and joel had 4 blocks and 7 points.

joel sucks on offense but all we need to do is take away their easy putbacks by hibbert. force their perimeter guys to beat us, and thats where we win because we have LBJ/wade
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Re: PG: Not good enough 

Post#444 » by weouthere » Sun May 26, 2013 7:03 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:
weouthere wrote:Hibbert would shoot over Joel and even if he misses he'd get the rebound and put back. Joel would be better on David West


last year joel outplayed hibbert in some games........off memory, game 5 last year - joel held hibbert to 3-10 FG's and joel had 4 blocks and 7 points.

joel sucks on offense but all we need to do is take away their easy putbacks by hibbert. force their perimeter guys to beat us, and thats where we win because we have LBJ/wade

Well maybe Spo can try and see how it goes but they actually go to Hibbert alot now, he's not cold from barely any shots, he's in rhythm
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Re: PG: Not good enough 

Post#445 » by Myam333 » Sun May 26, 2013 7:17 am

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dwadefan45 wrote:Here is what needs to happen:

Wade needs to find tape from last year's Heat-Pacers series. Watch it, then replicate it. Go off on these ni99@s again. We freaking beat this team without Bosh, Birdman, and Allen last year and they had Granger too. Outside of Granger and Stephenson, no key additions or subtractions were made.

Why are we having trouble?! Anyways, hopefully Haslem can do what he did last time we met Pacers in the playoffs. Hit shots. :roll:


Hibbert his year is on a different level ever since he's been healthy. George is on a completely different level. West was recovering from ACL surgery last year and is healthy this year and Stephenson is a good starter now instead of a bench scrub. Pacers are super young, it's internal development.

He averaged 15 and 8 that series last year. He's pretty much has the same output unless he has a couple more 20+ pt games this time around. With that being said, the rest of your points are valid, but I don't think it's enough to beat what we've added. Chris Andersen needs more minutes too. It's ridiculous how little minutes he's getting in the postseason. It's not like he can't handle it by now. He has to be conditioned enough for 20 minutes at least. Battier is as cold as the north pole this series. Forget small ball if we're not hitting 3's. The advantage is gone at that point.
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Re: PG: Not good enough 

Post#446 » by Tony15 » Sun May 26, 2013 1:40 pm

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weouthere wrote:Not going to change, it happened to the knicks and will happen to us.

Whats worse is it happens in the 4th to us, when calls matter. The no call on Hibbert fouling Bosh had me cursing all night. I knew it would affect the game and it did. I don't think its going to change. I'll give up all those stupid technicals in the first quarter for that foul on Hibbert


That no call on Hibbert was atrocious clearly fouled him and the refs all of sudden decided not to blow the whistle although they have at any time Chalmers move an arm towards Hill. Its really a shame how much the officating how slowed Miami down, and no one is talking about it. I want Riley to come out and say something so badly.

The scary part is that these calls happen at home. You think @IND is going to be any better? That's why no matter what, we have to attack the basket and force the officials to make a call. We can't be passive at all for the remainder of this series......can't afford to have a 18 to 46 FT discrepancy like in the Knicks' series against them. But don't hold your breath, the way this series is going to be officiated has already been decided so it's up to us adjust accordingly. Shame it's come down to that....
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Re: PG: Not good enough 

Post#447 » by This IsMy House » Sun May 26, 2013 3:20 pm

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This IsMy House wrote:
weouthere wrote:Not going to change, it happened to the knicks and will happen to us.

Whats worse is it happens in the 4th to us, when calls matter. The no call on Hibbert fouling Bosh had me cursing all night. I knew it would affect the game and it did. I don't think its going to change. I'll give up all those stupid technicals in the first quarter for that foul on Hibbert


That no call on Hibbert was atrocious clearly fouled him and the refs all of sudden decided not to blow the whistle although they have at any time Chalmers move an arm towards Hill. Its really a shame how much the officating how slowed Miami down, and no one is talking about it. I want Riley to come out and say something so badly.

The scary part is that these calls happen at home. You think @IND is going to be any better? That's why no matter what, we have to attack the basket and force the officials to make a call. We can't be passive at all for the remainder of this series......can't afford to have a 18 to 46 FT discrepancy like in the Knicks' series against them. But don't hold your breath, the way this series is going to be officiated has already been decided so it's up to us adjust accordingly. Shame it's come down to that....


Ha! Ya I havent even thought about that, that theyve been getting some really friendly calls so far and we have yet to play a game on their home court....oh dear.
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Re: PG: Not good enough 

Post#448 » by Run DLC » Sun May 26, 2013 4:08 pm

Bosh needs to get 10 rebounds tonight. Ray and Battier needs to hit 6 or 8 3-pointers combined tonight. Heat have to find a better way to closing out games and find a better way to play at their own pace.
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Re: PG: Not good enough 

Post#449 » by This IsMy House » Sun May 26, 2013 8:24 pm

Run DLC wrote:Bosh needs to get 10 rebounds tonight. Ray and Battier needs to hit 6 or 8 3-pointers combined tonight. Heat have to find a better way to closing out games and find a better way to play at their own pace.


Well Bosh wont be getting 10 rebounds thats for sure, too busy being stretch out to open up the paint him hitting his jump shot is just as important as him rebounding since it will open the lane. I'd go with 6-8 threes combined from Chalmers/Cole/Allen/Battier....baby steps.
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Re: PG: Not good enough 

Post#450 » by welcome2jungle » Sun May 26, 2013 8:30 pm

I like to see a new lineup from Spo, so he won't be so predictable to Vogel.

Pg: Lebron
SG:Rashard Lewis or Norris Cole
SF:Chris Bosh or Rashard Lewis
PF: Birdman
C: Joel Anthony

I really believe Miami has to clean up this rebound issue and need people in the game who not scared of the paint...
Joel Anthony can block shots,offensive rebounds,plus sets great screens & great at trapping on defense..
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Re: PG: Not good enough 

Post#451 » by Myam333 » Mon May 27, 2013 2:42 am

Gave the GB a piece of my mind. And it's funny, they say that I'm exaggerating the GB's hate for the heat and that I'm playing the victim card. Really? If there is an ESPN Poll involving the Heat 99% of the time, Florida is the only state to vote in a positive light. The Wade suspension thread pissed me off. It's an unwritten rule to never support the heat or their players there. No one mentioned David West's elbow of course, and it took some of them hours to realize that Wade used his forearm. Then I'm told that I'm insane for thinking this forearm hit wasn't a dirty play.

Lance Stephenson says the forearm by Wade was surprising and took him off guard but wouldn't say it was dirty.
Read more at http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#2PrmjvS7kfew8Ogr.99

I'm waiting for what their response will be to this after I posted it in the suspension thread.

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