LeBron 2013 Finals Discussion

[CodyB_]

He can't get up like he was in the Indiana series. Fatigue is a factor, but certainly not to this extent? Is he injured?

[Flash4thewin]

For all the bitching about Lebron game if the refs called the fouls the same on both teams Lebrons "bad" game goes to an epic one just on 8 more free throws and how it would force the spurs to adjust. No longer would they be able to get away with hacking away.

I will say this, give Jordan the same treatment Lebron is getting and there is no way he wins 6 rings....

[Heat3]

For all the bitching about Lebron game if the refs called the fouls the same on both teams Lebrons "bad" game goes to an epic one just on 8 more free throws and how it would force the spurs to adjust. No longer would they be able to get away with hacking away.

I will say this, give Jordan the same treatment Lebron is getting and there is no way he wins 6 rings....

Exactly! I don't think he's played that bad. He missed some close shots and so did Wade. But if he gets the call on some of those plays then some of those "misses" aren't counted as misses and instead he gets FTs to shoot and people are singing a different tune.

[Peregrine01]

For all the bitching about Lebron game if the refs called the fouls the same on both teams Lebrons "bad" game goes to an epic one just on 8 more free throws and how it would force the spurs to adjust. No longer would they be able to get away with hacking away.

I will say this, give Jordan the same treatment Lebron is getting and there is no way he wins 6 rings....

If you look closely, LeBron didn't get hit much at all on his drives. Merely throwing your body right into the defense doesn't entitle you to a call.

I, for one, am glad with the number of no calls this playoffs. Getting bailed out with a whistle and having play stalled isn't good basketball.

[Hoopz Afrik]

The greats always find a way. Hopefully Bron, Dwyane, Bosh, and co. will themselves to this championship because win or lose, it all goes down in Miami. If that doesn't bring out the baller within then I don't know what will.

[Flash4thewin]

For all the bitching about Lebron game if the refs called the fouls the same on both teams Lebrons "bad" game goes to an epic one just on 8 more free throws and how it would force the spurs to adjust. No longer would they be able to get away with hacking away.

I will say this, give Jordan the same treatment Lebron is getting and there is no way he wins 6 rings....

If you look closely, LeBron didn't get hit much at all on his drives. Merely throwing your body right into the defense doesn't entitle you to a call.

I, for one, am glad with the number of no calls this playoffs. Getting bailed out with a whistle and having play stalled isn't good basketball.

Notice what your saying Didnt get hit much, if your hit its a foul....

As for no calls look at how many times Parker and Manu got to the free throw line....

You have to call the game fair and both sides. If the Heat get the same treatment Bosh goes to the line more than twice, Lebron goes a good 8 more times and Wade also got hacked quite a few times. That changes the whole dynamic of the game.....

[Peregrine01]

Notice what your saying Didnt get hit much, if your hit its a foul....

As for no calls look at how many times Parker and Manu got to the free throw line....

You have to call the game fair and both sides. If the Heat get the same treatment Bosh goes to the line more than twice, Lebron goes a good 8 more times and Wade also got hacked quite a few times. That changes the whole dynamic of the game.....

Semantics. Basketball is a contact sport and there's obviously a lot of grey area in what constitutes a foul. The refs have to make judgement calls but they made the correct calls more often than not in game 5. More importantly, there was no egregious bias one way or the other.

Let's not make the refs responsible for last night's loss. The Spurs shot over 60% and the Heat was about 40%. That kind of discrepancy isn't going to win you games.

[Sonny Carson]

Notice what your saying Didnt get hit much, if your hit its a foul....

As for no calls look at how many times Parker and Manu got to the free throw line....

You have to call the game fair and both sides. If the Heat get the same treatment Bosh goes to the line more than twice, Lebron goes a good 8 more times and Wade also got hacked quite a few times. That changes the whole dynamic of the game.....

Semantics. Basketball is a contact sport and there's obviously a lot of grey area in what constitutes a foul. The refs have to make judgement calls but they made the correct calls more often than not in game 5. More importantly, there was no egregious bias one way or the other.

Let's not make the refs responsible for last night's loss. The Spurs shot over 60% and the Heat was about 40%. That kind of discrepancy isn't going to win you games.

The refs were not the reason the Heat lost...but they were the reason for the Heat not having a shot at the end of the game.

There were 3 legit fouls on LeBron this game that werent called. Foul by Ginobili in the 1st half. And a couple in the 2nd half (though one of them was when they were down 10)

A couple of 4 point/5 point swings because of "missed calls"

But its water under the bridge. He'll get calls in game 6.

[Flash4thewin]

Notice what your saying Didnt get hit much, if your hit its a foul....

As for no calls look at how many times Parker and Manu got to the free throw line....

You have to call the game fair and both sides. If the Heat get the same treatment Bosh goes to the line more than twice, Lebron goes a good 8 more times and Wade also got hacked quite a few times. That changes the whole dynamic of the game.....

Semantics. Basketball is a contact sport and there's obviously a lot of grey area in what constitutes a foul. The refs have to make judgement calls but they made the correct calls more often than not in game 5. More importantly, there was no egregious bias one way or the other.

Let's not make the refs responsible for last night's loss. The Spurs shot over 60% and the Heat was about 40%. That kind of discrepancy isn't going to win you games.

For semantics no reply to Parker and Manu getting to the line..
Also whats crazy is if they game was called evenly the Heat would have had more than a fighters punch to win, and thats with the Spurs shooting 60%. Makes you think.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Notice what your saying Didnt get hit much, if your hit its a foul....

As for no calls look at how many times Parker and Manu got to the free throw line....

You have to call the game fair and both sides. If the Heat get the same treatment Bosh goes to the line more than twice, Lebron goes a good 8 more times and Wade also got hacked quite a few times. That changes the whole dynamic of the game.....

Semantics. Basketball is a contact sport and there's obviously a lot of grey area in what constitutes a foul. The refs have to make judgement calls but they made the correct calls more often than not in game 5. More importantly, there was no egregious bias one way or the other.

Let's not make the refs responsible for last night's loss. The Spurs shot over 60% and the Heat was about 40%. That kind of discrepancy isn't going to win you games.

For semantics no reply to Parker and Manu getting to the line..
Also whats crazy is if they game was called evenly the Heat would have had more than a fighters punch to win, and thats with the Spurs shooting 60%. Makes you think.

Dude, Lebron got to the line a good amount too. Do you really think that pointing out two hall of famers whose game is predicated on attacking a defense drew fouls is any sort of proof of ref bias? It doesn't hurt that Manu is a master flopper.

The point is that barreling into someone whose under the rim ready to contest your shot isn't a foul on the defender. I mean it's hard to even draw cheap fouls when you can physically push the defender back through sheer strength for a much cleaner look. Lebron should not have been bailed out by the refs for suspiciously losing his touch around the rim and jumpshot.