PG: Perfect example of why we are not the #1 seed

BballMania47 · Post #41 » by **BballMania47** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:21 am

KingDavid wrote:
Altered_Beast wrote:thank the lord i couldnt watch today, i expected as much though when i heard lebron was out. u cant expect spoelstra to motivate his guys when their leader is out

You couldn't be any further from the truth. Talk about invalid opinions. You didn't watch the game so you didn't see who stepped up and what caused us to lose.

But you're getting warmer...

This has been a reoccurring thing with Spo after halftime. The team comes out looking totally different but LeBron presence, just being on the floor would have opened the game up for everyone. He causes double team and gets defensive 3s quite a bit. Games like these piss me off because we'd have won if he played but I understand him resting. No excuse, should have won without him

AlexCRO · Post #42 » by **AlexCRO** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:39 am

to be quite frankly i am not even mad anymore... 2nd seed is our reality at this point... i see much more positive stuff then negative in this one... haslem's good play, lebron rest, hopefully wade is alright...so yeah on to the next one...

DWadeno3 · Post #43 » by **DWadeno3** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:13 pm

People blaming the coach are just flat out (Please Use More Appropriate Word). We were executing extremely well in the first half, getting whatever shots we wanted, nobody was playing really hard though. Coach was on the money starting UD, who gave us a huge boost. Coach wasn't wrong to roll the dice with Wade because in the first half, Wade was getting what he wanted. Tactically, I don't see many mistakes from him. I see players getting broken down in one-on-one situations or losing their guy on backdoor cuts. I see players not rotating for the help in time, giving Boston open shot/layup after open shot/layup.

It is just like every game we've lost against bad teams this year. There was no effort and at some point, we stopped executing thinking this could be an easy night. If the Cavs weren't so dumb and without their best player, they could've EASILY had us last night as well.

Sure, coach could probably get in their faces for playing harder, but at the same time he understands the long run and the bigger picture, which is the team's health. I'm confident enough that we can win big road games in the postseason for us not to chase the best record in the league.

RexBoyWonder · Post #44 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:22 pm

1. Battier kills us on most night.
2. Haslem and Beas are showing signs of life.
3. I hate our defense. BE GONE HEADLESS CHICKEN CURSE.

RexBoyWonder · Post #45 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:26 pm

And the Raptors are a more dangerous team then the Bulls, I wish this annoying attitude around here will die.

Raptors have played great after they got rid of Gay, Bulls can't score on us. Stop wishing we'll get the Raptors.

WD · Post #46 » by WD » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:26 pm

Is it too much to ask for us to not just rely on one style of defense? Of course it's looks great in the first half of games, but can we at least adjust "a little" to something else when these vets get tired?

A few times Shane was under the basket guarding a big, while Anderson was at the top of the key trapping a guard...it's just not natural on a consistent basis

Very few teams have to run out to guard a perimeter player like we do(at least 3-4 times) a game.

Is this natural, full time?

Flash4thewin · Post #47 » by **Flash4thewin** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:38 pm

So basically Spo couldnt motivate the team to play with effort the second half?

Gwynplaine · Post #48 » by **Gwynplaine** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:44 pm

We didn't win the game.. and then we played Allen and Bosh 31 and 36 minutes respectively.. These are the games you use bench scrubs like Douglas and Hamilton.. Against a tanking team like the celtics.

Spo.. You're clueless..

tam · Post #49 » by **tam** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:50 pm

Few observations:

-Wade can't carry this team anymore
-Shane is on his last legs
-Without LBJ and the 3-ball going for us, this team is mediocre at best

WD · Post #50 » by WD » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:54 pm

^Flash4thewin - whether or not you were addressing me, I am addressing you.. I'll use the word "motivation" - I don't think "motivation" is what shane needed while trying to guard that big last night. This response is directed ONLY about shane which I referred to in my last post.

I keep hearing, we're not "motivated" - motivation versus tired legs, motivation versus over trapping, motivation versus coaching/adjusting......do me a favor, provide me with an alternate opinion, i'm sure i'd be receptive.....

DWadeno3 · Post #51 » by **DWadeno3** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:12 pm

tam wrote:Few observations:

-Wade can't carry this team anymore
-Shane is on his last legs
-Without LBJ and the 3-ball going for us, this team is mediocre at best

Spoken like a true LeBron homer.

Yaphet Kotto · Post #52 » by **Yaphet Kotto** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:42 pm

Romerowned wrote:You could take 5 random guys from a street game and they will beat the heat in a regular season game.

This ^

Flash4thewin · Post #53 » by **Flash4thewin** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:48 pm

WD wrote:^Flash4thewin - whether or not you were addressing me, I am addressing you.. I'll use the word "motivation" - I don't think "motivation" is what shane needed while trying to guard that big last night. This response is directed ONLY about shane which I referred to in my last post.

I keep hearing, we're not "motivated" - motivation versus tired legs, motivation versus over trapping, motivation versus coaching/adjusting......do me a favor, provide me with an alternate opinion, i'm sure i'd be receptive.....

i wasnt addressing you i ment it more in a general sense. We are greater than what we show and its the regular season so i get it so were not playing 100%. I hope thats the case. Shane just hasnt looked right and he needs the rest. Id be ok with playing Beasley and Lewis more in order to get Lebron and Shane more rest. Ideally we should play more man to man defense at times. With this team its not about the wins or the losses during the regular season but how we play as a whole if that makes sense.

WD · Post #54 » by WD » Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:15 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
WD wrote:^Flash4thewin - whether or not you were addressing me, I am addressing you.. I'll use the word "motivation" - I don't think "motivation" is what shane needed while trying to guard that big last night. This response is directed ONLY about shane which I referred to in my last post.

I keep hearing, we're not "motivated" - motivation versus tired legs, motivation versus over trapping, motivation versus coaching/adjusting......do me a favor, provide me with an alternate opinion, i'm sure i'd be receptive.....

i wasnt addressing you i ment it more in a general sense. We are greater than what we show and its the regular season so i get it so were not playing 100%. I hope thats the case. Shane just hasnt looked right and he needs the rest. Id be ok with playing Beasley and Lewis more in order to get Lebron and Shane more rest. Ideally we should play more man to man defense at times. With this team its not about the wins or the losses during the regular season but how we play as a whole if that makes sense.

what you are saying makes since.....personally, I feel their is something ELSE wrong - I'm the guy that says "the emperor is naked" when everyone says "he has clothes on" - BUT I feel a tension with the overall team....just gonna watch the games

WD · Post #55 » by WD » Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:33 pm

From Ask Ira

Q: Hey Ira, what will it take for Miami to get focused and start playing well? They have looked lost. And the playoffs are coming. -- Daniel.

A: What it will take is a fixed rotation in place for an extended period, where everyone can get comfortable with their roles and assignments and responsibilities. Look, I can appreciate Erik Spoelstra and Pat Riley placing a priority on health for the playoffs. I get that. And if it means sacrificing a few March victories, there is no issue with that. But what this team needs, whether it is now, in two weeks or two weeks after that, is an extended period where everyone plays, the lineup is set, the rotation is stable and everything is defined and delineated. They appeared to have that going into and then coming out of the All-Star break. And then, for whatever reason, it went south. Another run like that would inspire much-needed confidence. Getting physically right is one thing. Getting mentally right could be just as significant.

nbhadja · Post #56 » by **nbhadja** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:44 pm

Our defensive system is stupid period. A defense is built around a center but since we have none we have to over trap which is why every team shoots lights out against us from down town and why our rebounding is WNBA caliber.

KingHomer · Post #57 » by **KingHomer** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:28 pm

WD wrote:From Ask Ira

Q: Hey Ira, what will it take for Miami to get focused and start playing well? They have looked lost. And the playoffs are coming. -- Daniel.

A: What it will take is a fixed rotation in place for an extended period, where everyone can get comfortable with their roles and assignments and responsibilities. Look, I can appreciate Erik Spoelstra and Pat Riley placing a priority on health for the playoffs. I get that. And if it means sacrificing a few March victories, there is no issue with that. But what this team needs, whether it is now, in two weeks or two weeks after that, is an extended period where everyone plays, the lineup is set, the rotation is stable and everything is defined and delineated. They appeared to have that going into and then coming out of the All-Star break. And then, for whatever reason, it went south. Another run like that would inspire much-needed confidence. Getting physically right is one thing. Getting mentally right could be just as significant.

Ira is spot on. Which makes it hard to guage where exactly this team really is if all of their roles/minutes were set. I think this team needs to blow out Indiana next week as a way to let some of the pentupness out.