PG: We made Paul Pierce cry lol

[Heat_Fan_87]

One adjustment i saw which i really liked was they were looking to set up wade as he cut to the rim. When wade is active and working off the ball it gets us high % looks.

[MiaFLSurf]

For all the crap Spo gets about WHO THE **** THE 9TH MAN IS ON THE BENCH/ROTATION he is so calm and cool in late games when the game is close.

He is the perfect coach for this team.

Im getting sick of his hate over and over.

WHO THE HELL CARES WHO THE 8TH OR 9TH PLAYER OFF THE BENCH IS. He continually draws up GREAT plays late in games which seems to ALWAYS get us open looks at the basket or threes. He keeps everyone calm in the huddle.

Spo was great this series. he made adjustments, he called the right plays, he knew how to attack the Nets. The players executed great.

**** the haters, Spo, you were great this series.

I usually agree with you on most things surf but I have to strongly disagree. Spoelstra is a terrible coach. No coach worth his own salt would play rashard the minutes he does.

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You just proved my point.

Your basis of Spo being horrible is that he plays Rashard as the EIGHTH OR NINTH GUY OFF THE BENCH.

Really? Thats what makes him horrible? Cuz we play him instead of JJ, or Beasley, or some other scrub who plays 10-15 minutes a night? and ALWAYS with a star on the floor so that scrub isnt the focal point!

Go back and watch every close game of the playoffs the last 3 years. EVERY SINGLE TIME we run a play that frees up someone for an EASY basket. Hell, even on Lebron Iso/Pick and Rolls, we run amazing backdoor action that frees up the lane to give him an open look.

He listens to his players. Bron wants JJ - he gave him JJ. Wade wanted more freedom in the post and up top on pick and rolls. he gave him that. Bosh talked to him about expanding his game to be a three point shooter - he let him.

What more does he need to do? Seriously. If it is simply - LOL DONT PLAY RASHART HE SUCKS HE SHOULD PLAY BEASLEY OR JAMES JONES, then I dont know what to say. People get so worked up over the 8th guy off our bench. Its stupid.

Look at last nights game.

We had about 5 OPEN threes in the last 5 minutes. WIDE THE EFF OPEN. Watching the double down screens and the away from the ball action is freaking amazing. Thats coaching right there. Riley KNEW what he was doing .

[Heat_Fan_87]

Spo will always be underrated. As long as we keep winning, it's all good.

[WiseOwlWins]

There is no heel turn here, I've been consistent with my posts. If you're too soft for the reality, ignore my posts and continue to live in your Wade homer world. If you wanna portray me as a Wade hater, I don't give a s***.

you are about as consistent with your posts as wade is in this series. (in your world)

you say one solid game and then go on to criticize that supposed solid game?

you talk about wade's defense but fail to mention the cluctch stop he had on Livingston or Lebron getting torched by JJ (in which he came through when it counted as well)

you say he was barely seen in the second half yet dont mention lebron barely being seen in the 1st half ?

yeah you are borderline wade hating at this point and ill call you out for it everytime.

as long as we dont insult each other i think we will continue this discussion throughout the playoffs and hopefully on the way to another ring.

First of all solid doesn't mean great, so solid still leaves room for faults.

Second of all, LeBron defended Joe Johnson very well, he just happened to make ridiculously tough shots. There is a difference between allowing your defender to get into the paint for easy scores or a kick-out because somebody had to help, and making life tough for a great offensive player who just happens to catch fire.

That's one stop and on that stop he allowed Livingston a middle penetration and a shot near the rim right over him, I wouldn't call that great defense but more so luck on our part that Livingston missed a bunny.Lastly, the reason LeBron was so quiet in the first half is because they completely loaded up on him. You must be a homer if you didn't see how the Nets constantly kept at least one more defender close to him who then even went to him once he started to make a move. LeBron may not have scored, but he initiated a lot just based on drawing a lot of attention.

Show me where I'm hating. I'm not stating anything incorrect. You're just either blinded by homerism or have extremely low expectations for Wade.

the hate is deep.


so did the nets magically stop leaving one defender "close" to lebron in the second half? because he had a fantastic second half and i wouldnt see why they would lay off such amazing defense that you claim was used on lebron in the 1st half. especially since we couldnt hit a 3 the entire game to open up the lanes.


or did bron have a bad half and adjusted accordingly?

i think youre over critical of wade and you think im not critical enough. i dont think we will ever find a middle ground.

just keep enjoying these games.

[DWadeno3]

have extremely low expectations for Wade.

Serious question....what do you and others expect/want out of Wade the last two rounds to make his maintenance program a success to you? I want a consistent 20+/5/5 with solid defense. Last night was great. He kept us in the game as LeBron struggled to find his groove until the 4th quarter. That's all we need for him. On nights LeBron is passive or teams are simply loading up on him, we need him to carry the team and he did.

It generally isn't about statistics for me depending on how the other team defends him. I simply want him to be aggressive and use the many touches he receives instead of constantly looking for others to make plays.
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If you're open for the midrange jumper, take it, even if you miss a couple. He has a tendency of not taking them anymore when he missed one or two, which is (Please Use More Appropriate Word) because the defense will continue to play off of you.

Don't pick up the ball so early when you run a pick and roll or pick and pop. He likes to pick it up right after using the screen when the defender hedges instead of being patient and keeping his dribble alive, thus keeping options open.

Don't stand in the corner. Wade has one major weakness in his game, that's his three-point shot. Him standing on the perimeter is only gonna hurt our offense. He'll have to keep his defender occupied, even if it's just a little random movement. If he stands there, his defender can watch the ball closely and cheat off of him. If he moves, his defender will automatically watch him and be closer to him.

Post up a lot. Even against taller defenders, he has managed to score and get good shots off because he has good footwork and is crafty around the basket. Once he's done some damage down there, he'll automatically draw a second defender to him and open up the game for others.

Defensively, I want him to show a consistent effort and actually move his feet to push the defender towards the base-/sideline and not allow him into the paint. That's what I disliked the most about the Nets series. Often times he'd just let guys drive past him as if he wasn't there.

Statistically this should, however, result in consistent 20+/5/5 games. Those 15 point 7/11 performances look nice on paper, but often times he's turned down so many shots and stood around so much (two points I addressed above) that he hurt our offense more despite being "efficient". A 25 point 11/20 night will often times be better for us because usually when he turns down shots, we don't get better ones anyways.

[DWadeno3]

the hate is deep.


so did the nets magically stop leaving one defender "close" to lebron in the second half? because he had a fantastic second half and i wouldnt see why they would lay off such amazing defense that you claim was used on lebron in the 1st half. especially since we couldnt hit a 3 the entire game to open up the lanes.


or did bron have a bad half and adjusted accordingly?

i think youre over critical of wade and you think im not critical enough. i dont think we will ever find a middle ground.

just keep enjoying these games.

They laid off of him because Wade finally did what he was supposed to do, which is be aggressive and attack the defense. It's human instinct to pay more attention to him and less to LeBron. Part of it is also LeBron simply understanding that, while often he made the right decision by moving the ball and creating open shots, it was time for him to step up. He is good enough to even score on a tight defense that focuses on him. So no, he didn't have a bad half, he was unselfish and making the right play, but due to his teammates' inability to do their jobs, he had to try a different approach.

I'm far from the "LeBron can do no wrong"-crowd that's very present here as well, his ball stopping and then forcing others to make a play with little time on the clock still pisses me off, but I know that he can still play well when the statistics don't fully show it.

I'm not overcritical of Wade, but he is very important to our success going forward and he is flat out underperforming given the role he still has on this team and the abilities he still has. I've never seen you once actually prove that Wade has played well.

[dr3am]

the hate is deep.


so did the nets magically stop leaving one defender "close" to lebron in the second half? because he had a fantastic second half and i wouldnt see why they would lay off such amazing defense that you claim was used on lebron in the 1st half. especially since we couldnt hit a 3 the entire game to open up the lanes.


or did bron have a bad half and adjusted accordingly?

i think youre over critical of wade and you think im not critical enough. i dont think we will ever find a middle ground.

just keep enjoying these games.

They laid off of him because Wade finally did what he was supposed to do, which is be aggressive and attack the defense. It's human instinct to pay more attention to him and less to LeBron. Part of it is also LeBron simply understanding that, while often he made the right decision by moving the ball and creating open shots, it was time for him to step up. He is good enough to even score on a tight defense that focuses on him. So no, he didn't have a bad half, he was unselfish and making the right play, but due to his teammates' inability to do their jobs, he had to try a different approach.

I'm far from the "LeBron can do no wrong"-crowd that's very present here as well, his ball stopping and then forcing others to make a play with little time on the clock still pisses me off, but I know that he can still play well when the statistics don't fully show it.

I'm not overcritical of Wade, but he is very important to our success going forward and he is flat out underperforming given the role he still has on this team and the abilities he still has. I've never seen you once actually prove that Wade has played well.

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[DWadeno3]

the hate is deep.


so did the nets magically stop leaving one defender "close" to lebron in the second half? because he had a fantastic second half and i wouldnt see why they would lay off such amazing defense that you claim was used on lebron in the 1st half. especially since we couldnt hit a 3 the entire game to open up the lanes.


or did bron have a bad half and adjusted accordingly?

i think youre over critical of wade and you think im not critical enough. i dont think we will ever find a middle ground.

just keep enjoying these games.

They laid off of him because Wade finally did what he was supposed to do, which is be aggressive and attack the defense. It's human instinct to pay more attention to him and less to LeBron. Part of it is also LeBron simply understanding that, while often he made the right decision by moving the ball and creating open shots, it was time for him to step up. He is good enough to even score on a tight defense that focuses on him. So no, he didn't have a bad half, he was unselfish and making the right play, but due to his teammates' inability to do their jobs, he had to try a different approach.

I'm far from the "LeBron can do no wrong"-crowd that's very present here as well, his ball stopping and then forcing others to make a play with little time on the clock still pisses me off, but I know that he can still play well when the statistics don't fully show it.

I'm not overcritical of Wade, but he is very important to our success going forward and he is flat out underperforming given the role he still has on this team and the abilities he still has. I've never seen you once actually prove that Wade has played well.

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Show me where then and make a case so that one can discuss it instead of just claiming I am. Apparently, nobody but you and kevin considers me to be overcritical of Wade. Unlike others, I present a case where I clearly state why I don't believe Wade played well and back my observations up with statistics.

[SWadeUP]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RljTqHUHLog[/youtube]

The guy @ 1:19 in the background is TROLLING THE NETS!!!!!!!!!!!

HAAHAHAHA!

[GameTime_3]

Seriously. That "if" bs is for weak fans. He was going around telling us to "fear" the Nets. Just man up & admit your'e wrong. That simple. It's also funny because before he didn't even consider the Pacers a challenge or "feared" the Pacers

I never understood the Nets fear around here. Whatever fear people had of the Nets should have evaporated after seeing Toronto take them to 7 and almost winning. The Nets are an old team and their coach is not that good.

BTW, you can make the we could be down 3-2 argument for almost every playoff series. There are always pivotal moments and you can always play the devil's advocate and say Miami could have easily lost to Thunder 4-1 in 2012 or could have lost to Chicago in 5 in 2011. You win, you win. You lose, you lose.

Yup. It's quite annoying how so many fans on here basically "fear" every playoff team. We're 8-1 in this postseason....Not the big bad Spurs, Not the big big bad Thunder, Not the big bad Pacers, Not the Wizards...WE ARE. Spoiled asses need to give some damn respect to our accomplishment. I honestly never feared the Nets at all this year & I felt they were a gentlesman sweep from the start, which is why I picked us in 5. Nets had to rely on 15 3 pointers just to win a game against us in the playoffs come on man

I'm calling out GT3 because he was the catalyst for the "fear" the Nets campaign and he was also ranting on LeBron, Spo & Lewis last night...Lewis also played decent last night & man the plays Spo came up with during the timeouts were spot on. Give some damn credit to this team, that's all i'm saying

My fear was real and the fact we needed 49 from LBJ to win one the road and we were down 8 with 3 minutes left to win on a Ray 3, proving I wasn't wrong by saying to fear the NETS. They pushed us in almost every game but 1. No where did I say we would lose but I said we need to fear them and avoid them. With the result logic, I would say no to fear anyone since we have beaten the Spurs last year but I would also go out and say, I fear the Spurs this year again due to leadership and veteran play.

and my rants on Spo and Lewis are still very alive. I gave Spo credit for his play calling in game 4 down the stretch and for not playing Cole more than he needed too but the Lewis game plan is terrible and shouldn't be ignored. Lewis finally did something last game but I can't ignore the last 2 season of him because of 5 points. LBJ is great! Super Star but last night wasn't one of his best games and looked out of it.

[MiamiHavok]

Dat Spo press conference.

[Altered_Beast]

For all the crap Spo gets about WHO THE **** THE 9TH MAN IS ON THE BENCH/ROTATION he is so calm and cool in late games when the game is close.

He is the perfect coach for this team.

Im getting sick of his hate over and over.

WHO THE HELL CARES WHO THE 8TH OR 9TH PLAYER OFF THE BENCH IS. He continually draws up GREAT plays late in games which seems to ALWAYS get us open looks at the basket or threes. He keeps everyone calm in the huddle.

Spo was great this series. he made adjustments, he called the right plays, he knew how to attack the Nets. The players executed great.

**** the haters, Spo, you were great this series.

I usually agree with you on most things surf but I have to strongly disagree. Spoelstra is a terrible coach. No coach worth his own salt would play rashard the minutes he does.

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You just proved my point.

Your basis of Spo being horrible is that he plays Rashard as the EIGHTH OR NINTH GUY OFF THE BENCH.

Really? Thats what makes him horrible? Cuz we play him instead of JJ, or Beasley, or some other scrub who plays 10-15 minutes a night? and ALWAYS with a star on the floor so that scrub isnt the focal point!

Go back and watch every close game of the playoffs the last 3 years. EVERY SINGLE TIME we run a play that frees up someone for an EASY basket. Hell, even on Lebron Iso/Pick and Rolls, we run amazing backdoor action that frees up the lane to give him an open look.

He listens to his players. Bron wants JJ - he gave him JJ. Wade wanted more freedom in the post and up top on pick and rolls. he gave him that. Bosh talked to him about expanding his game to be a three point shooter - he let him.

What more does he need to do? Seriously. If it is simply - LOL DONT PLAY RASHART HE SUCKS HE SHOULD PLAY BEASLEY OR JAMES JONES, then I dont know what to say. People get so worked up over the 8th guy off our bench. Its stupid.

Look at last nights game.

We had about 5 OPEN threes in the last 5 minutes. WIDE THE EFF OPEN. Watching the double down screens and the away from the ball action is freaking amazing. Thats coaching right there. Riley KNEW what he was doing .

Fair enough. Your analysis of spo is much better and more in depth than mines. But I'll agree to disagree

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[nbhadja]

One adjustment i saw which i really liked was they were looking to set up wade as he cut to the rim. When wade is active and working off the ball it gets us high % looks.

This is why Spo is a poor coach. Why in the hell does this have to be an adjustment? It should be a permanent part of our offense. Why did we have to wait until the end of the finals last year to have Lebron cut and have off ball movement when he doesn't have the ball instead of standing at the 3 line doing nothing? Did Spo not learn from last year's finals? A kid who has never coached before can tell you that having a mediocre 3 shooter like Wade cutting instead of standing at the line with his defender sagging in the paint is way better.

Any decent coach would make them do it constantly, not just when the going gets deep in the playoffs. It's like we are being less good on purpose and throw in great offense in spurts when we need it instead of doing what the Spurs do and just have a great offensive strategy as the base offense. It is mind blowing.

[dr3am]

awesome

[Zasterror]

As a huge Wade fan, I expect more from him in the Playoffs. His defense was really suspect in the Nets series; more so about effort than ability. He seemed to shy away from shots (besides Game 5), didn't really get himself in position to score (may be a Spo problem instead), and it seems to be satisfied to disappear at pivotal moments in the 2nd half of games.

Wade needs to be more involved yet he needs to play with a little more effort.

[kidco2]

WHERE BROOKLYN AT? Bwahaha

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