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Re: Draft Lottery Thread 

Post#21 » by brent_strong » Wed May 21, 2014 5:15 pm

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420 wrote:Fans and owners care more about which team LeBron, Wade, and Bosh join than they do about the NBA being rigged. Every since being caught rigging the Ewing draft, the NBA has done all lottery drawings behind cameras. And this is acceptable? I would figure this would be the last lottery before owners and fans get outraged and demand a new system or demand that it be done on camera with an independent inspector checking the entire process afterwards for any funny business.


This draft was not rigged. Why would the NBA rig it so CLEVELAND and the BUCKS get pick one and two? No one gives a fck about them 2 teams. Their first picks will probly want out of the teams after their rookie contract. Lakers and Celtics pick 7 and 6? If it was even slightly rigged one of them woulda been top 5 at least.
Those teams have been awful forever now (in NBA terms). The Cavs were devastated after LeBron left and were pure garbage before his arrival. The last time the Bucks were good was when George Karl was coaching and Ray Allen was with them them. Before that, they were garbage just like Cleveland.

I think I can actually find you a thread on Prosportsdaily.com I had made predicting the NBA-owned Hornets, who needed to sell, would win the #1 pick after they traded away Chris Paul.

I mean, if someone who doesn't see that the team that needs it always gets it in the Stern socialist regime that Adam Silver is now running, then there is no hope for you. Please continue as you were:

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So, you think it's better for business to give Cleveland yet another pick to ruin in their dysfunctional atmosphere than to give that pick (or at least one of the top 5) to a marquee franchise with a need for a centerpiece and a proven track record of developing talent, building championship teams, and bringing in boatloads of money?

Really?

If it were rigged, the Celtics and Lakers would be picking better than 6 and 7.

Or is your argument that the people rigging the draft are smart and savvy enough to pull off such a large scale hoodwinking, but are too stupid to funnel resources to where they would be most beneficial? Basically that Adam Silver is smart enough to count cards in blackjack, but too dumb to figure out how to bet on winning hands.
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Re: Draft Lottery Thread 

Post#22 » by DivineFury » Wed May 21, 2014 8:00 pm

brent_strong wrote:
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420 wrote:
He's Heating Up wrote:
This draft was not rigged. Why would the NBA rig it so CLEVELAND and the BUCKS get pick one and two? No one gives a fck about them 2 teams. Their first picks will probly want out of the teams after their rookie contract. Lakers and Celtics pick 7 and 6? If it was even slightly rigged one of them woulda been top 5 at least.
Those teams have been awful forever now (in NBA terms). The Cavs were devastated after LeBron left and were pure garbage before his arrival. The last time the Bucks were good was when George Karl was coaching and Ray Allen was with them them. Before that, they were garbage just like Cleveland.

I think I can actually find you a thread on Prosportsdaily.com I had made predicting the NBA-owned Hornets, who needed to sell, would win the #1 pick after they traded away Chris Paul.

I mean, if someone who doesn't see that the team that needs it always gets it in the Stern socialist regime that Adam Silver is now running, then there is no hope for you. Please continue as you were:

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So, you think it's better for business to give Cleveland yet another pick to ruin in their dysfunctional atmosphere than to give that pick (or at least one of the top 5) to a marquee franchise with a need for a centerpiece and a proven track record of developing talent, building championship teams, and bringing in boatloads of money?

Really?

If it were rigged, the Celtics and Lakers would be picking better than 6 and 7.

Or is your argument that the people rigging the draft are smart and savvy enough to pull off such a large scale hoodwinking, but are too stupid to funnel resources to where they would be most beneficial? Basically that Adam Silver is smart enough to count cards in blackjack, but too dumb to figure out how to bet on winning hands.


Rigged doesn't mean the route for most money, popular, or obvious. Just because Lakers didn't win doesn't mean it was a random selection. There could be tons of reasons and goals outside of money/popularity. NBA does have a vested interest in keeping Lakers or Celtics from just making small markets irrelevant. Stern vetoed that Lakers trade for CP3 as an example. Why wouldn't he let a big market flourish at the expensive of one with few fans? Well they may feel the need to maintain NBA team's value. Even Bucks sold for over half a billion. Could a 2nd pick been part of the deal? Who knows?

I personally don't believe it is rigged but I am sure there is corruption like any business making billions. It's not unrealistic to believe the NBA rigs certain outcome, or at least helps the cause. But there also isn't really any conclusive evidence to support that it happens either.

Hence conspiracy theories galore.
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Post#23 » by Pure_Basketball » Wed May 21, 2014 11:55 pm

Remember some of us were praying that Philly made the playoffs after their 3-0 start. Haha we weren't even close.
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Re: Draft Lottery Thread 

Post#24 » by 420 » Thu May 22, 2014 4:47 am

brent_strong wrote:
Spoiler:
420 wrote:
He's Heating Up wrote:
This draft was not rigged. Why would the NBA rig it so CLEVELAND and the BUCKS get pick one and two? No one gives a fck about them 2 teams. Their first picks will probly want out of the teams after their rookie contract. Lakers and Celtics pick 7 and 6? If it was even slightly rigged one of them woulda been top 5 at least.
Those teams have been awful forever now (in NBA terms). The Cavs were devastated after LeBron left and were pure garbage before his arrival. The last time the Bucks were good was when George Karl was coaching and Ray Allen was with them them. Before that, they were garbage just like Cleveland.

I think I can actually find you a thread on Prosportsdaily.com I had made predicting the NBA-owned Hornets, who needed to sell, would win the #1 pick after they traded away Chris Paul.

I mean, if someone who doesn't see that the team that needs it always gets it in the Stern socialist regime that Adam Silver is now running, then there is no hope for you. Please continue as you were:

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So, you think it's better for business to give Cleveland yet another pick to ruin in their dysfunctional atmosphere than to give that pick (or at least one of the top 5) to a marquee franchise with a need for a centerpiece and a proven track record of developing talent, building championship teams, and bringing in boatloads of money?

Really?

If it were rigged, the Celtics and Lakers would be picking better than 6 and 7.

Or is your argument that the people rigging the draft are smart and savvy enough to pull off such a large scale hoodwinking, but are too stupid to funnel resources to where they would be most beneficial? Basically that Adam Silver is smart enough to count cards in blackjack, but too dumb to figure out how to bet on winning hands.


Keep your head in the sand, bro. I guess 3 #1 picks in 4 years, with the other #1 pick going to a team that the NBA needed to sell, plus the first one in the past 5 years going to a team that was devastated after their best player was suspended for a year, isn't enough. I could provide you with a mountain of evidence and you would still deny any rigging. That's why I limit the time I waste on people like you. You want to remain ignorant. Keep your head in the sand, bro.

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Post#25 » by ReturnofMVP3 » Thu May 22, 2014 4:50 am

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Post#26 » by 420 » Thu May 22, 2014 5:00 am

DivineFury wrote:I personally don't believe it is rigged but I am sure there is corruption like any business making billions. It's not unrealistic to believe the NBA rigs certain outcome, or at least helps the cause. But there also isn't really any conclusive evidence to support that it happens either.

Hence conspiracy theories galore.
Maybe you're just ignoring the evidence. Do you really expect the guilty parties to come out and admit it blatantly? Do your knowledge, a lot if it is right in front of your face but your afraid to be called a conspiracy theorist or whatever. ****, you know what they used to call conspiracy theorists back in the day? Critical thinkers. Apparently, that's something to be ashamed of and mocked at.
You know what us "conspiracy theorists" call those who wish to remain ignorant and deny what's right in front of them? Sheep.

In regards to what I quoted: you're so concerned about what people think of you that you preface it by saying it's not rigged, but then you drop little implications that ultimately suggests you actually believe it is rigged. I think that you're so afraid of being laughed at or whatever that you deny it's rigged so you can fit in with the crowd, but deep down, you know there's funny business going on.
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Post#27 » by 420 » Thu May 22, 2014 5:24 am

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... _Their_Own

"...we also are focused on a model where all 30 teams have the opportunity to compete for a championship." - Adama Silver


If that isn't a tell-all sign that the guy is a communist and socialist that is more concerned with propping up perennial losers, then I don't know what is. This guy will do anything in his power to prop up garbage teams and it's evident. Him and David Stern.

You know what's funny about that quote? The fact that he actually believes 30 teams can compete for a championship when only 15 teams can make the playoffs, 2 of them can compete for a championship, and only 1 team can actually win a championship at the end of the day. It's that kind of stupid logic that comes out of the minds of communists and socialists.
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Re: Draft Lottery Thread 

Post#28 » by DivineFury » Thu May 22, 2014 5:32 am

420 wrote:
DivineFury wrote:I personally don't believe it is rigged but I am sure there is corruption like any business making billions. It's not unrealistic to believe the NBA rigs certain outcome, or at least helps the cause. But there also isn't really any conclusive evidence to support that it happens either.

Hence conspiracy theories galore.
Maybe you're just ignoring the evidence. Do you really expect the guilty parties to come out and admit it blatantly? Do your knowledge, a lot if it is right in front of your face but your afraid to be called a conspiracy theorist or whatever. ****, you know what they used to call conspiracy theorists back in the day? Critical thinkers. Apparently, that's something to be ashamed of and mocked at.
You know what us "conspiracy theorists" call those who wish to remain ignorant and deny what's right in front of them? Sheep.

In regards to what I quoted: you're so concerned about what people think of you that you preface it by saying it's not rigged, but then you drop little implications that ultimately suggests you actually believe it is rigged. I think that you're so afraid of being laughed at or whatever that you deny it's rigged so you can fit in with the crowd, but deep down, you know there's funny business going on.


I'm not afraid of being called anything really. I do think of myself as a realist though, as such corruption obviously exists in the NBA. The unknown part is how far, how deep, and end game. Sure the NBA wants teams to be competitive, but I also doubt the owners simply sit around a table and vote on draft position.

Truth is, I simply don't know. Which is why it's still theories (conspiracy or otherwise) in my mind. But I will say, regardless of their schemes I am still able to full enjoy the NBA and basketball in general.
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Post#29 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu May 22, 2014 9:31 am

So much stupidity in this thread..Jesus.
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Post#30 » by HeatNation88 » Thu May 22, 2014 4:56 pm

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Post#31 » by HeatNation88 » Thu May 22, 2014 4:58 pm

420 wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/211473/NBA_Believes_NFL_Model_Of_Hard_Cap_Is_Better_System_Than_Their_Own

"...we also are focused on a model where all 30 teams have the opportunity to compete for a championship." - Adama Silver


If that isn't a tell-all sign that the guy is a communist and socialist that is more concerned with propping up perennial losers, then I don't know what is. This guy will do anything in his power to prop up garbage teams and it's evident. Him and David Stern.

You know what's funny about that quote? The fact that he actually believes 30 teams can compete for a championship when only 15 teams can make the playoffs, 2 of them can compete for a championship, and only 1 team can actually win a championship at the end of the day. It's that kind of stupid logic that comes out of the minds of communists and socialists.



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Post#33 » by brent_strong » Thu May 22, 2014 5:25 pm

Flip a coin 10 times. The sequence you get will have had a 0.097% (rounded) chance of getting that exact sequence. Do it 10 more times. You'd have a 1 in 1048576 chance of getting the exact sequence you got.
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Post#34 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu May 22, 2014 6:03 pm

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And the chance your team still sucks balls after all that?


1 in a Gilbert.
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Post#35 » by spectrec130 » Thu May 22, 2014 9:59 pm

Cleveland is a NBA farm team....If it couldn't keep its local heroe Lebron from leaving, what makes anyone think they can keep any player worth their weight in gold in the open market from exiting...

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