Dwyane Wade season recap

[contract]

I love Wade, but he needs to get his head right this offseason. No more excuses, no more coasting, no more complaining.

Yes, your love is showing. When Lebron wanted to play in game #1 and his body wouldn't cooperate ... was that him coasting, or making excuses?

Bad knees are not a lack of conditioning ... bad knees can result in lack of conditioning though.

If the knees are done, they're done. But catering to him like he's 40 years old is not in the best interest of the team, and it didn't do him a whole hell of a lot of good, either. He came up shortest when needed most.

What's your alternative plan? You want to force Wade to play through his knee flareups so we can secure those all important regular season wins vs the Bucks and the Pistons? That should come in real handy in the postseason. People like you are whining about Lebron having to rely on lesser players during the regular season due to Wade resting just imagine him having to rely on lesser players in the playoffs.

Face the facts, we need Wade in the postseason ... that means that we have to do whatever needs doing to preserve his knees during the season.

LeBron was having trouble moving at all. He wasn't preserving his energy for offense and lolling around on defense/failing to get back in transition...

Wade sucked on both ends of the court, but you choose to believe that the suck on the defensive end was due to lack of effort and not injury? Like I said, the love is showing.

[NBA82]

Wade sucked on both ends of the court, but you choose to believe that the suck on the defensive end was due to lack of effort and not injury? Like I said, the love is showing.

I don't "choose to believe", I watched it. Here, do the same:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8emMWW1gy8Y[/youtube]

That's got nothing to do with injury. It's got to do with awareness, discipline, and effort. Give it a rest already with the injury talk. Wade's got knee problems. Nobody denies that. It has robbed him of a great deal of his ability. But getting caught ball-watching has nothing to do with his knees. Lightly jogging back in transition has nothing to do with his knees. Not every failing of his is due to his knees. You want to say his knees have sapped his explosiveness, his quickness, his lateral agility? Absolutely, agreed. You want to say he can't keep an eye on Danny Green instead of ball-watching, or run a straight line to get back in transition because of his knees? No. Lost me there.

[contract]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8emMWW1gy8Y[/youtube]

The very first clip ... who was the last guy back on defense?

[NBA82]

The very first clip ... who was the last guy back on defense?

Are you trolling me? It's an eleven-and-a-half minute clip of Wade playing lackadaisical, lazy, undisciplined defense, and you want to deflect by talking about LeBron getting back late on a play where he didn't need a switch and his man never touched the ball?

And how does LeBron playing lazy defense weigh into this conversation in any way? That doesn't excuse Wade's lazy defense. And LeBron is the best player on the planet. He had the highest PER in the NBA this postseason and is our best defensive player. He averaged 28/8/4 on 57% shooting in the Finals. If he wants to play lazy defense and dog it up the court once in a while, we can live with that. Just like we did for 10 years with Wade, when he was one of the best in the league. But Wade isn't that good anymore. We can't live with him struggling to score, failing to space the floor, and regularly breaking down our defense. The offense is going to come and go with the way his knees are. Defensive effort and focus has to be a constant.

[gom]

Somehow I think if Wade was playing for San Antonio, it would be a much different clip. Yeah, this video looks awful, but Miami stunk up the place during the finals series. Bosh also looked bad. Even LeBron was terrible a lot of the time. You don't think you could make an 11 minute video of LeBron's poor play during the series?

[heatlespeatles]

The very first clip ... who was the last guy back on defense?

Are you trolling me? It's an eleven-and-a-half minute clip of Wade playing lackadaisical, lazy, undisciplined defense, and you want to deflect by talking about LeBron getting back late on a play where he didn't need a switch and his man never touched the ball?

And how does LeBron playing lazy defense weigh into this conversation in any way? That doesn't excuse Wade's lazy defense. And LeBron is the best player on the planet. He had the highest PER in the NBA this postseason and is our best defensive player. He averaged 28/8/4 on 57% shooting in the Finals. If he wants to play lazy defense and dog it up the court once in a while, we can live with that. Just like we did for 10 years with Wade, when he was one of the best in the league. But Wade isn't that good anymore. We can't live with him struggling to score, failing to space the floor, and regularly breaking down our defense. The offense is going to come and go with the way his knees are. Defensive effort and focus has to be a constant.

don't waste your energy, this dude is a premium wade nuthugger and secretly hates Lebron.

[NBA82]

Somehow I think if Wade was playing for San Antonio, it would be a much different clip. Yeah, this video looks awful, but Miami stunk up the place during the finals series. Bosh also looked bad. Even LeBron was terrible a lot of the time. You don't think you could make an 11 minute video of LeBron's poor play during the series?

Dude, that video was only from the first three games. That's 11 of 102 minutes he was on the floor. It's not cherry picked.

Could you make an 11 minute video of LeBron's poor plays? Maybe. You'd have to include run-of-the-mill things like missed shots and turnovers, even though he shot an exceptionally high percentage and didn't turn it over terribly often.

Do I think you could make an 11 minute video of LeBron dogging it on defense through the first 3 games of the Finals? Hell no. Not without extending clips well beyond the length needed to show the breakdowns. Everyone is lazy in transition or gets caught ball-watching once in a while. Wade has made it a regular occurrence.

[gom]

It includes the first game when it was 90 degrees on the floor.

We know that Wade was disappointing. We also know it wasn't just him. Personally, I think he can come back. I don't think he should play as many minutes, but I think the same is true of James and Bosh. We need more options.

San Antonio was very, very good. We need to learn from them. We need alternatives.

[NBA82]

It includes the first game when it was 90 degrees on the floor.

We know that Wade was disappointing. We also know it wasn't just him. Personally, I think he can come back. I don't think he should play as many minutes, but I think the same is true of James and Bosh. We need more options.

San Antonio was very, very good. We need to learn from them. We need alternatives.

Oh I definitely think Wade can come back and still be a very positive contributor. I think his days as a superstar are done, but he still has the ability to be one of the best shooting guards in the game.

But that's going to require some serious adjustments to his game. He needs to eliminate all of the lazy habits that he's developed of late. He needs to drop some weight and get his conditioning to an elite level. He needs to focus on defense and dedicate himself to getting back in transition and staying mentally engaged on that end. And he needs to at least try to develop a three-point shot. Staying effective into your mid-30s when you're an undersized 2-guard with bad knees and no outside shooting ability isn't easy. It's going to take a lot of work and adjustment on his part.

[gom]

I think we agree more than disagree. I am unwilling to concede that Wade is no longer a superstar because of his recent performance. I agree with you (& Riley for that matter) that he will need to reinvent himself. Let's just hope they give the team options so he doesn't have to be on the court all the time.

[WiseOwlWins]

another thread full of people **** on wade.

sigh no respect for a legend. he had 1 bad series and it happened to be the finals. the rest of the team stunk besides lebron.

sound familiar? yeah because the same thing happened in 2011, except it was lebron who had a bad series and it also happened to be the finals.

[dancing2thabeet]

And people **** on LeBron back then. Your point?

[DWadeno3]

another thread full of people **** on wade.

sigh no respect for a legend. he had 1 bad series and it happened to be the finals. the rest of the team stunk besides lebron.

sound familiar? yeah because the same thing happened in 2011, except it was lebron who had a bad series and it also happened to be the finals.

This thread, just like any other regarding Wade at this point, is full of LeBron homers taking the opportunity to bash him and then Wade homers going to the other extreme. There won't be any common ground and thus no good discussion because neither side is ready to concede points due to their personal agenda or bias. It doesn't help that most people here don't have a very good understanding of the game of basketball and simply see what they wanna see.

The ironic part is, some of them complain about the senseless LeBron and Wade bashing on the GB, but they are no different.

[dancing2thabeet]

This is wrong. We cheer for the same team. We have to take enough of **** from everybody else, do we really have to argue among ourselves in such fashion? I know we're all pissed and angry and sad and whatnot. We lost. But this is a team sport, so everybody is to blame. Sure, some more then others, some had injuries, some had different problems and some didn't even get the proper chance. This isn't the time to point fingers, however. It never is, to be honest. Why? Because we can be sure that Riley and our FO along with our coaching staff will fix this. It might, again, require a lot of sacrifice for some players and a lot of work for others, but it will be fixed. And we will be on top.

Don't forget, just as the Miami Heat organization is a brotherhood, so are we. Wade fans. LeBron fans. Bosh fans. Hardaway fans. Heat fans. It doesn't matter. We're brothers and we should act like it, now more then ever. It's easy after the championships. But after loses, only real brothers stay together.

[WiseOwlWins]

another thread full of people **** on wade.

sigh no respect for a legend. he had 1 bad series and it happened to be the finals. the rest of the team stunk besides lebron.

sound familiar? yeah because the same thing happened in 2011, except it was lebron who had a bad series and it also happened to be the finals.

This thread, just like any other regarding Wade at this point, is full of LeBron homers taking the opportunity to bash him and then Wade homers going to the other extreme. There won't be any common ground and thus no good discussion because neither side is ready to concede points due to their personal agenda or bias. It doesn't help that most people here don't have a very good understanding of the game of basketball and simply see what they wanna see.

The ironic part is, some of them complain about the senseless LeBron and Wade bashing on the GB, but they are no different.

agreed

[WiseOwlWins]

And people **** on LeBron back then. Your point?

if you dont get it, then what can i say?

we need to support our team

[NBAWestFan]

From a Wade fan.

I think he has to Opt in and keep his 20 mil and look out for his family.

This will handcuff the Heat.

I believe Lebron might leave as a result.

Summer 2015 Wade if not 80% should retire.

[PaulieWal]

From a Wade fan.

I think he has to Opt in and keep his 20 mil and look out for his family.

This will handcuff the Heat.

I believe Lebron might leave as a result.

Summer 2015 Wade if not 80% should retire.

That doesn't make sense. Firstly, he has a history of putting his team first. Secondly, he doesn't have to handicap the team to "look out for his family". He can opt-out, restructure his deal, and get more money overall. Something like 4 years 50-55 mil will help give him two more years and more guaranteed money. If you are Arison/Riley you don't let a top 3-5 GOAT player leave, you make the contracts work and do whatever it takes to keep him and retool.

If LeBron has his mind made up and he wants out then Wade you let Wade do whatever he wants. He can get 2 yrs 40 mil or opt-out and restructure regardless if he still wants to compete (as Riley said he is a Heat for life).

[The Flash Rises]

Wade owes nothing to this organisation, but for the legacy of the big 3's sake i really hope he opts out and signs a e.g. 4 year 56 million dollar deal. He has a lot of pride and not sure if he would do nor is he obligated to, but i really believe there is another chapter in Miami Heat basketball.