Rebuilding the Miami Heat

[Rock Hardy]

Quick question, how good of a passer is Gortat? He seemed solid in that regard in the playoff games I saw.

Anyway, I'll post what I'd like to see.

Napier/Cole/Douglas
Wade/Ray/Jones
LeBron/Ennis/Beasley
Bosh/Ariza/Haslem
Pau/Birdman/Oden

I think the ball movement in that starting 5 is phenomenal. Pau's post game is excellent, and he can drift out for the midrange. Not sure how he is with all the injuries and age though. This all assumes Napier has the defensive chops, and the Pau-Bosh frontcourt offering a solid rim protection. Bosh will eat opposing PFs that aren't immortal Tim Duncan alive. And I like the matchup of a Bosh-Pau front against a Tim-Tiago tandem.

Our defense would change. We'd trap less and probably adopt more of Thibs' philosophies. That's what I'd like to see anyway.

[GetMoney]

What would you guys think of a lineup that looked something like this?

Lowry/Napier/Cole (Napier and Cole are interchangeable depending on who turns out to be better)
Wade/Allen
LeBron/Ennis/Beasley
Bosh/Lewis/UD
Gortat/Birdman/Oden

Oden and Beasley didn't play in the playoffs... I don't get the point in having players who get benched in the playoffs, can someone explain that logic to me? Why do coaches do that ****?

Anyways, I just realized Marc Gasol is an unrestricted free agent next year.. I think we need to go all out for him if possible

i tend to agree. i dont think we should get desperate for a title and get trapped this year. marc gasol + lebron = drool

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

I think the idea has merit. Gasol is a team guy that can pass and has a passion for winning. He also doesn't generally do dumb stuff on the court. Miami has had success with those types of guys in the past.

Exactly. Gasol has a great jump shot, nice mid range game. He's a GREAT pick and roll player too.

Big body, he'd instantly become our best rebounder too. And he is a complete TEAM guy.... anyone of Gasol's talent who can put up with Kobe for years deserves a medal.

[number1joker]

for the righjt price, absolutly!!!

[mh_3]

I think a lineup featuring:

Lowry/Cole/Napier
Wade/Morrow/Allen
LeBron/Marion/Ennis
Haslem/Hill
Bosh/Birdman/Oden

OR

Cole/Napier
Wade/Meeks/Allen
LeBron/Ennis
Bosh/Haslem/Scott
Gortat/Birdman/Oden

are pretty realistic imo. Again, it all depends on what the Big 3 are willing to take.

[heatlespeatles]

Quick question, how good of a passer is Gortat? He seemed solid in that regard in the playoff games I saw.

Anyway, I'll post what I'd like to see.

Napier/Cole/Douglas
Wade/Ray/Jones
LeBron/Ennis/Beasley
Bosh/Ariza/Haslem
Pau/Birdman/Oden

I think the ball movement in that starting 5 is phenomenal. Pau's post game is excellent, and he can drift out for the midrange. Not sure how he is with all the injuries and age though. This all assumes Napier has the defensive chops, and the Pau-Bosh frontcourt offering a solid rim protection. Bosh will eat opposing PFs that aren't immortal Tim Duncan alive. And I like the matchup of a Bosh-Pau front against a Tim-Tiago tandem.

Our defense would change. We'd trap less and probably adopt more of Thibs' philosophies. That's what I'd like to see anyway.

I like Jones but don't want him on the team anymore, he barely plays anyway

So..

Napier/Cole/ Isaiah Thomas or Patty Mills or someone like that..
Wade/Allen/Anthony Morrow
Lebron/Beasley/ Ennis
Bosh/Hill/Haslem
Pau-Blatche/Birdman/ Oden

[brent_strong]

I like Jones but don't want him on the team anymore, he barely plays anyway

So..

Napier/Cole/ Isaiah Thomas or Patty Mills or someone like that..
Wade/Allen/Anthony Morrow
Lebron/Beasley/ Ennis
Bosh/Hill/Haslem
Pau-Blatche/Birdman/ Oden

Gotta keep JJ around since he'll come at the minimum and you know exactly what you'll get from him. In a series like the Charlotte one where you can hide him defensively, he can be a major factor. Hard to ditch a vet who stays healthy, stays ready, plays the system (even though he can get abused defensively, it isn't by breaking rotations), and can (and recently has) swing playoff games. Especially when your star player excels with elite shooting surrounding him.

[dancing2thabeet]

I like Jones but don't want him on the team anymore, he barely plays anyway

So..

Napier/Cole/ Isaiah Thomas or Patty Mills or someone like that..
Wade/Allen/Anthony Morrow
Lebron/Beasley/ Ennis
Bosh/Hill/Haslem
Pau-Blatche/Birdman/ Oden

Gotta keep JJ around since he'll come at the minimum and you know exactly what you'll get from him. In a series like the Charlotte one where you can hide him defensively, he can be a major factor. Hard to ditch a vet who stays healthy, stays ready, plays the system (even though he can get abused defensively, it isn't by breaking rotations), and can (and recently has) swing playoff games. Especially when your star player excels with elite shooting surrounding him.

That's true. And it's not like you're ever going 13 man deep in an important game.

[dancing2thabeet]

I think the idea has merit. Gasol is a team guy that can pass and has a passion for winning. He also doesn't generally do dumb stuff on the court. Miami has had success with those types of guys in the past.

Exactly. Gasol has a great jump shot, nice mid range game. He's a GREAT pick and roll player too.

Big body, he'd instantly become our best rebounder too. And he is a complete TEAM guy.... anyone of Gasol's talent who can put up with Kobe for years deserves a medal.

You sir, deserve all the and1s in the world!

[heatlespeatles]

I like Jones but don't want him on the team anymore, he barely plays anyway

So..

Napier/Cole/ Isaiah Thomas or Patty Mills or someone like that..
Wade/Allen/Anthony Morrow
Lebron/Beasley/ Ennis
Bosh/Hill/Haslem
Pau-Blatche/Birdman/ Oden

Gotta keep JJ around since he'll come at the minimum and you know exactly what you'll get from him. In a series like the Charlotte one where you can hide him defensively, he can be a major factor. Hard to ditch a vet who stays healthy, stays ready, plays the system (even though he can get abused defensively, it isn't by breaking rotations), and can (and recently has) swing playoff games. Especially when your star player excels with elite shooting surrounding him.

yes, but JJ's position is a position of need. if Wade is going to be on his maintenance program and all we have to trot out is Ray who cant defend and JJ who cant either - that becomes problematic. That will definitely require the PG to do a lot.

[Temuhjan]

yes, but JJ's position is a position of need. if Wade is going to be on his maintenance program and all we have to trot out is Ray who cant defend and JJ who cant either - that becomes problematic. That will definitely require the PG to do a lot.

Exactly. And Wade is definitely going to continue missing time going forward just like Manu Ginobilli is. Simply shifting the defensive burden to the PG isn't gonna cut it. We will need our very own Danny Green to start in his place.

[dolphinatik]

i do not believe this Lebron wants max salary bs. ESPN is the devil and will spread or say anything to fill their pages and tv panels with something to talk about. Lebron gets blames for the decision and being a diva but its ESPN that wont stop talking about him and making things an issue before its even an issue. Im still in wait and see mode on Lebrons free agency and wont belive anything until i hear those words come directly from his mouth. The party has to end sometime but I think we give it another go.

[Hallstar]

If Lebron wants 20 mil + starting, nobody should have opted out.

[Tuff Gong]

LeBron Jams: $19 million
Chris Bosh: $15 million
Dwyane Wade: $12 million
Udonis Haslem: $2 million
Shabbaz Napier: $1 million
= $49 million (Cole shipped off)

Kyle Lowry $10 million + Emeka Okafor $4 million

Kyle Lowry / Shabbaz Napier / Toney Douglas
Dwyane Wade / Ray Allen / James Ennis
LeBron James / Wes Johnson / James Jones
Chris Bosh / Udonis Haslem / Michael Beasley
Emeka Okafor / Chris Andersen / Greg Oden

[smartcane]

Jameer Nelson and ED Davis. Nelson can be the vet behind Cole and Napier while Davis is a young big that can defend and rebound. He can easily start at center with say a vet like Okafor backing him up.

[GQ Hot Dog]

What's wrong with Lebron wanting the max? He should be the last one to sign because his first year max contract will be more than his cap hold meaning the only consequence of signing for the max is to drive the team deep into the luxury tax. What's wrong with that? You got to pay if you want the best player on the planet to pilot your team to multiple championships. He's basically telling Wade, Bosh and any interested FAs that they have to take a pay cut for the honor of playing with him and he's absolutely right. Anyone see anything wrong with that logic?

[Temuhjan]

i do not believe this Lebron wants max salary bs. ESPN is the devil and will spread or say anything to fill their pages and tv panels with something to talk about. Lebron gets blames for the decision and being a diva but its ESPN that wont stop talking about him and making things an issue before its even an issue. Im still in wait and see mode on Lebrons free agency and wont belive anything until i hear those words come directly from his mouth. The party has to end sometime but I think we give it another go.

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