What's the plan for the future? 2016-2017 additions?

[JLop]

Here and now, I would like to quote a few comments I made on the past, about Anthony Davis:

Tue Dec 2, 2014
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1358286

This is Ira Winderman's opinion on the matter:

"Is Anthony Davis going to be Pat Riley's top target in 2 years? -- Jeffrey.

A: Yes, and every other team's top target, as well. I spoke to a coach over the past week who told me he views Davis as the NBA's best player right now, better than LeBron James, better than Kevin Durant, at least when it comes to a player he would choose to build around going forward."

Next to Chris Bosh Anthony Davis is the perfect big man for Erik Spoelstra and his system. Any of the top 5 Small Forwards next to Davis, Bosh and Wade, places the Miami Heat as the favorites to win the finals. Josh McRoberts is already on the books. And by the year 2016 Napier and Ennis will have 2 years of experience in the NBA. A few days ago, the Heat make guarantees to Whiteside and Hamilton and it makes sense with Ira Winderman's opinion.

Tue Dec 2, 2014
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1358286

I am just using the opinion of Ira Winderman and nothing more. Davis is a different player. He will surpass Lebron and KD. Anthony is not going to sign with the Pelicans. He will play his contract one more year if he has to do it. As an unrestricted free agent, he will earn more money outside the NBA. He is 21 years old (born: March 11, 1993). Anthony will challenge Bill Russell and his record for the most championships won by an athlete in a North American sports league. I can understand Ira Winderman's opinion.

And this is a video published on Dec 19, 2014:

ESPN First Take - Anthony Davis's better than LeBron James?


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W1w73MctCM[/youtube]


After watching this video I stand firm on what I said before: "Anthony Davis is going to be Pat Riley's top target in 2 years."

Note:
If LeBron wants to be part of something even greater, then he should consider a return to Miami next year. Please, do not misunderstand my words: I'm not asking to see LeBron once again on the team. But the timing for this to happen is right. The salary for James will make everything work if he signs a contract with Miami in the year 2015. This will never happen again. Three all time greats in the same team: Dwyane Wade, Anthony Davis and Lebron James. Talking about pipe dreams!

[Altered_Beast]

it really is a pipe dream, no way we get davis and bron back. im very skeptical on getting davis alone. hell be a RESTRICTED free agent meaning the pelicans will match whatever teams throw at him and hell only go somewhere else if we offer NO a sweet s&t package but the caveat is we have absolutley no trade chips at the moment and unless we suck really bad nextyear we wont have a high enough lottery pick to entice them with. same goes for drummond. the chances of us getting one of those two guys is very slim in my eyes

[Altered_Beast]

I cannot see this team improving, draft picks or not, with Spoelstra at the helm. If you give him good young talent, all they will do is sit on the bench. We cannot make a plan for the future without changing the command.

100% accurate

well he learned from riley and you know riley doesnt like to play rookies unless they are something special

[gom]

well he learned from riley and you know riley doesnt like to play rookies unless they are something special

He was, however, also told to "reinvent" himself. Turning Miami into a place where a rookie can become a star again would be a nice leap forward. I'm not saying you can press a button and turn Shabazz into Wade's reincarnation, but we can make it an easier place to start out.

[DefenseWins]

Isn't AD a RESTRICTED free agent? Nobody is getting him but the Pelicans

Also I hope no one still wants Monroe. He got locked up by Kevin Love and outplayed by him. Automatic ban from this team

[dancing2thabeet]

As I said before:

If we get AD, I'm getting a tattoo of Riley's face.

[RexBoyWonder]

We're not getting AD, Gasol, or Durant. Let's not waste space.

The big 3 were a very rare thing, stop expecting us to re-do it. It won't happen any time soon if ever.

Our strategy should be to build a well balanced deep talented team, Mavs/Spurs style. Not fantasizing about stealing an MVP type player in free agency again. We currently have 2 very good pieces in place, another good one in Deng, and almost nothing besides them other then rookies that can't get real consistent minutes from this coach.

[DayofMourning]

I'm looking forward to us signing Davis, Durant, and Lebron that offseason. We'll also get Karl Towns this draft. Talk about a big lineup!

C-Towns
F-Davis
F-Durant
G-Lebron
G-Wade

Then we can have Bosh off the bench in a marginalized role. I'm thinking back up at SF.

[RexBoyWonder]

I'm looking forward to us signing Davis, Durant, and Lebron that offseason. We'll also get Karl Towns this draft. Talk about a big lineup!

C-Towns
F-Davis
F-Durant
G-Lebron
G-Wade

Then we can have Bosh off the bench in a marginalized role. I'm thinking back up at SF.

Can't believe we missed this plan for 9 pages...it was right before our eyes all along!

Practically bullet proof.

[dancing2thabeet]

I'm looking forward to us signing Davis, Durant, and Lebron that offseason. We'll also get Karl Towns this draft. Talk about a big lineup!

C-Towns
F-Davis
F-Durant
G-Lebron
G-Wade

Then we can have Bosh off the bench in a marginalized role. I'm thinking back up at SF.

Don't be delusional!

Spoiler:

It will clearly be Durant at G and LeBron at F.

[DefenseWins]

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-b ... apaci.html

Wade ain't even that optimistic about 2016. Its realistic at this point we wont get someone huge name.

We can still get someone productive though BUT we about to pay people big bucks.

Aaanndd its in the wire tap http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... gency-Plan

[DayofMourning]

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2015/01/wade-cautions-against-heat-putting-all-its-hopes-in-2016-wallace-fallout-perspective-sun-life-capaci.html

Wade ain't even that optimistic about 2016. Its realistic at this point we wont get someone huge name.

We can still get someone productive though BUT we about to pay people big bucks.

Aaanndd its in the wire tap http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... gency-Plan

Wade at his peak could bring in a marquee name, but this Wade isn't going to be able to do that, that's why I have little faith in 2016. We had all this money this past offseason and couldn't bring anyone in other than Deng. Its not a given that we will be able to get players to come here. We have to build a good product before 2016. That means getting rid of Cole, Chalmers, Granger, even Deng in order to free up capital for a guy like Jimmy Butler who is on his way up.

Their are three basic parts to our success and they include:

1) Trade Deng, Cole, Chalmers, Granger, McBob, etc. for cap space, players, or picks. I believe teams would buy in to Deng and Mario as they are experienced players with value in the right situation. Some of those players could opt out as well, and give us cap space. Signing all those guys hurt us once Lebron left the building out the back door. Getting someone sooner than 2016 makes more sense than waiting. Jimmy Butler is a possibility, but only if we fix this roster mess. Don't ask me how. Who knows what kind of trades are available to free up space for a player like him.

2) Keep our draft pick and/or attain another late first/early second. Right now we are trying our best to keep it by not trying hard enough on the court. We might as well get something out of this terrible stretch of basketball. In the lottery, players like Okafor, Towns, Mudiay, Johnson, Hezonja, Turner, WCS, etc. all could help us immediately, especially the big men. If we don't get into a position for a player we want, then at least we have a valuable trade chip. In the later part of the first round or early second there could be some nice talent for our bench or starters as well. Players such as Jerian Grant, Delon Wright, Dakari Johnson, and Robert Upshaw all fill needs on this team, and have size.

3) Play our young guys...now. James Ennis, Hassan Whiteside, and Shabazz Napier need to be getting the bulk of rotation minutes. Find out what these guys have. Forget Cole. Forget Granger. Forget Bird. Play our youth now. What do we have to lose? We need to find contributors that are young enough and eager enough to do something for this team. We are not a good team, that needs to find a playoff rotation just to lose in the first round. We are rebuilding.

We can fix this, we just need to change our thoughts on what this team really is at the moment.

[DefenseWins]

You know what sucks? The 2015 free agent/RFA class looks better...

Riley may have made a mistake trying to splash KD or whomever in 2016 when thats not possible

I think Riley may have underestimated the impact of Wade or the friendship between the Big 3 that made 2010 possible, or that NBA players are more buddy buddy than they were back then, and it influences where they want to play. Right now there is NO reason a big time FA should be coming here. Our usual reason, Wade is aging. Bosh being soft these days. Outside of that, our other players won't even be here in 2016 and I think that's a problem.

Pau Gasol and I think even Ariza said how they weren't sure of how this team was looking, and too many empty spots. They did not know the make up of the team, and weren't sure how they would fit. Yes there was no LeBron and that impacted Gasol's decision, but these things we're overlooking here. I don't doubt Riley but, we have TOO many questions for a BIG TIME GUY to be coming here.

I mean KD can go to Wiz to be with Wall-Beal who are YOUNG and that could be a good core. WE AREN'T DEVELOPING OUR YOUNG GUYS... if we were they might excite some people, especially if they develop. I mean is that not why Shaq came here in the first place? Because he saw an upcoming star in WADE thanks to SVG. I bet Spo wouldn't even play Wade back then LOL.

[HIF]

You don't think that Shabazz , Ennis and a 2015 first round pick are going to be anymore interesting to KD etc.. than the team with have now, surely?

It wouldn't even matter if we got a top 8 pick they don't compare to Wall/Beal or most other teams at the moment.

The sale is Miami and the Heat organization with Bosh and Wade as 2nd and 3rd wheels.

[Altered_Beast]

You don't think that Shabazz , Ennis and a 2015 first round pick are going to be anymore interesting to KD etc.. than the team with have now, surely?

It wouldn't even matter if we got a top 8 pick they don't compare to Wall/Beal or most other teams at the moment.

The sale is Miami and the Heat organization with Bosh and Wade as 2nd and 3rd wheels.

thats a tough sell as much as i like wade and bosh

[HIF]

You don't think that Shabazz , Ennis and a 2015 first round pick are going to be anymore interesting to KD etc.. than the team with have now, surely?

It wouldn't even matter if we got a top 8 pick they don't compare to Wall/Beal or most other teams at the moment.

The sale is Miami and the Heat organization with Bosh and Wade as 2nd and 3rd wheels.

thats a tough sell as much as i like wade and bosh

But an easier sell than Shabazz, Ennis and a 2015 first.

[DayofMourning]

You don't think that Shabazz , Ennis and a 2015 first round pick are going to be anymore interesting to KD etc.. than the team with have now, surely?

It wouldn't even matter if we got a top 8 pick they don't compare to Wall/Beal or most other teams at the moment.

The sale is Miami and the Heat organization with Bosh and Wade as 2nd and 3rd wheels.

thats a tough sell as much as i like wade and bosh

But an easier sell than Shabazz, Ennis and a 2015 first.

So we lose Bosh and Wade if we play our young guys?