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Re: Heat Interested In Arron Afflalo 

Post#81 » by DefenseWins » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:59 pm

N82WILL wrote:Still don't understand why everyone is trying to trade for a PG! We have Napier, just sitting there rotting on the bench. How about we try and develop our own players instead of taking on some other teams trash. NO THANKS. WE-WANT-NAP-IER!



Cause people want to trade for a player who this staff will actually play that is better than rio and Cole

We all, well most, want Napier and it's not happening man :(
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Re: Heat Interested In Arron Afflalo 

Post#82 » by Axel » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:16 pm

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Axel wrote:Afflalo doesn't interest me. Not a game changer, doesn't make us a contender in any way. There's a reason why Denver is looking to trade him.

They're trying to trade him and Chandler because they want to tank. You can't tell me you'd prefer Chalmers at SG over Afflalo...unless you're Spo undercover


They really aren't that much different. Two players who have no upside at this point in their career. Marginal on both sides of the ball. Afflalo can get buckets but he's not really efficient, just like Rio. Both are off and on, defensively, but Rio plays the passing lanes better. AAA has underperformed in Denver, and they want to package him off for future talent. I'd rather us tank ourselves then make a play for borderline starters who make us contenders. By the way, Afflalo wasn't happy coming off the bench earlier in the year for Denver, and I doubt he'd be happy coming off our bench.
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Re: Heat Interested In Arron Afflalo 

Post#83 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:32 pm

^Come on man, Afflalo is clearly better then Rio, he's just not the piece we need.

Ennis can be Developed into an Afflalo type player,
Deng is probably better then him,
Granger is insurance,
Wade will play big minutes at SG.

What's the point of getting him. We need a PG if we're giving up assets. Someone to take Almost all of Rio's and Cole's minutes, someone that creates for others.
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Re: Heat Interested In Arron Afflalo 

Post#84 » by gom » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:42 pm

When I put forth McRoberts + Cole + 2nd before, I only meant that it was the path of "least harm" to get Arron that the Nuggets would accept. I wouldn't do the trade personally. The fact is Afflalo has a 2015-6 player option (like Deng) and is an unrestricted free agent in 2016. In other words no lasting value past June.
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Re: Heat Interested In Arron Afflalo 

Post#85 » by Tuff Gong » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:43 pm

I don't see why on earth Denver, a tanking team, would want McBob's terrible contract.

Regardless, I really like Afflalo but he's not what we need. We need a **** point guard.
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Post#86 » by UD4MVP » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:44 pm

The nuggets are shopping Wilson Chandler as well.
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Post#87 » by UD4MVP » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:45 pm

BTW I think you can package your Disabled player exception into a trade, I think that's what the Cavs did with the exception they got from Varejao's injury.
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Re: Heat Interested In Arron Afflalo 

Post#88 » by gom » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:45 pm

Tuff Gong wrote:I don't see why on earth Denver, a tanking team, would want McBob's terrible contract.

Regardless, I really like Afflalo but he's not what we need. We need a **** point guard.


I guarantee you that you are one of the few who see McRoberts's contract as a poor deal. Especially after the 2016 change in salary cap, it's going to look very good.
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Re: Heat Interested In Arron Afflalo 

Post#89 » by gom » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:46 pm

UD4MVP wrote:BTW I think you can package your Disabled player exception into a trade, I think that's what the Cavs did with the exception they got from Varejao's injury.


Not to acquire Afflalo who has a player option. The player acquired with the Disabled Player Exception must be an expiring contract with no option.

If we trade McRoberts we lose the DPE and the other team does not acquire it. You cannot trade for an injured player and apply for the exception.

Best thing to do is keep McRoberts and wait for next year.

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A: Yes, the $2.65 million disabled-player exception they received for McRoberts' injury (and, to clarify for those who have asked: If McRoberts is able to make it back before the end of the season, the Heat still would have the right to exercise the exception). That exception can be used either for a free agent or in a trade for a player in the final year of his contract (the exception cannot be aggregated with another player's salary to trade for a more-expensive target). Because the exception does not expire until March 10, its greatest value could come in the buyout market. With so many rebuilding teams trading for expiring contracts, several names could be available via that means. Tayshaun Prince is one possibility there. Andrea Bargnani could emerge as another.

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Re: Heat Interested In Arron Afflalo 

Post#90 » by twix2500 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:20 pm

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UD4MVP wrote:BTW I think you can package your Disabled player exception into a trade, I think that's what the Cavs did with the exception they got from Varejao's injury.


Not to acquire Afflalo who has a player option. The player acquired with the Disabled Player Exception must be an expiring contract with no option.

If we trade McRoberts we lose the DPE and the other team does not acquire it. You cannot trade for an injured player and apply for the exception.

Best thing to do is keep McRoberts and wait for next year.

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A: Yes, the $2.65 million disabled-player exception they received for McRoberts' injury (and, to clarify for those who have asked: If McRoberts is able to make it back before the end of the season, the Heat still would have the right to exercise the exception). That exception can be used either for a free agent or in a trade for a player in the final year of his contract (the exception cannot be aggregated with another player's salary to trade for a more-expensive target). Because the exception does not expire until March 10, its greatest value could come in the buyout market. With so many rebuilding teams trading for expiring contracts, several names could be available via that means. Tayshaun Prince is one possibility there. Andrea Bargnani could emerge as another.



I think what teams have done was use the DPE in a package deal but seperate on paper. Meaning like the Cavs the made an agreement to trade the DPE for i believe was to get shumpert. But agree to trade for JR Smith in order for the Knicks to give to give up Shumpert. I dont know if that makes sense. So the Heat can use that DPE in a trade but can also agree to make another deal in the bargain.
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Re: Heat Interested In Arron Afflalo 

Post#91 » by dwade13 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:04 pm

Denver just traded for Nelson. Package deal incoming.
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Re: Heat Interested In Arron Afflalo 

Post#92 » by eddieheatfan » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:03 am

dwade13 wrote:Denver just traded for Nelson. Package deal incoming.
i would be surprised if some team want our scrubs for a better player even when in taking mode
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Re: Heat Interested In Arron Afflalo 

Post#93 » by Pure_Basketball » Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:39 am

Joseph Goodman: Dwyane Wade indicated to the Miami Herald that he's going to be playing more point guard going forward: "At this point, when you’re as many games under .500 as we are, it’s about doing whatever to help you win. I mean, if anyone is statistics watching right now then that’s just a shame. We need to just get some wins."

This might be why we're considering getting Afflalo, because Wade's moving to point guard, that would be the most logical decision for us because he's our best facilitator and only talented one (besides Napier).

Wade/Afflalo/Deng/Bosh/Whiteside #contender
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Post#94 » by DayofMourning » Wed Jan 14, 2015 1:41 pm

Pure_Basketball wrote:Joseph Goodman: Dwyane Wade indicated to the Miami Herald that he's going to be playing more point guard going forward: "At this point, when you’re as many games under .500 as we are, it’s about doing whatever to help you win. I mean, if anyone is statistics watching right now then that’s just a shame. We need to just get some wins."

This might be why we're considering getting Afflalo, because Wade's moving to point guard, that would be the most logical decision for us because he's our best facilitator and only talented one (besides Napier).

Wade/Afflalo/Deng/Bosh/Whiteside #contender


I could definitely see that lineup doing well. Wade is pretty high usage anyways, so why not just call him a point. It doesn't really matter what the labels are. Afflalo is an efficient player on offense, and used to be a nice defensive player too. Adding him somehow, some way, makes this team more talented without investing in a terrible contract. Now, if we could only get him for Mario, Cole, and Granger.
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Re: Heat Interested In Arron Afflalo 

Post#95 » by JLop » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:33 pm

Potential Arron Afflalo Trade


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Miami's lack of perimeter depth is similar to Chicago's but with one major difference. While the Bulls need an emergency option behind the 25-year-old Butler, the Heat have to find someone capable of supporting the oft-injured, 32-year-old Dwyane Wade.

The dynamic 2-guard has already missed eight of Miami's first 37 games. He hasn't sat out fewer than 13 games since 2010-11.

Miami pulled the plug on experimental options Shannon Brown and Andre Dawkins pretty quickly. Mario Chalmers has found minutes at both guard spots, but he's shooting a career-worst 28.8 percent from three.

Rookie James Ennis is better equipped to play the 3, and giving him consistent playing time means living with the volatility in his stat sheet. The Heat have most recently turned to the D-League and called up Tyler Johnson.

If there is any surprise regarding Miami's interest in Afflalo, it's that the Heat have placed phone calls instead of camping out on Nuggets general manager Tim Connelly's front lawn. Miami desperately needs to get this deal done.

Afflalo could space the floor for Wade and Chris Bosh or carry the offense in their absence. Afflalo isn't an elite athlete, but he combines what he has with discipline, poise and intelligence, all of which could make him a fit for Erik Spoelstra's high-pressure defense.

The Heat don't own their 2015 first-round pick and have already shipped out three of their next five second-round selections, so they might need to involve a third team in this transaction.

The Heat could deem Chris Andersen expendable due to Hassan Whiteside's emergence or clear the way for rookie point guard Shabazz Napier by moving Chalmers or Norris Cole.

It would likely require Miami to part with multiple players, but the need for Afflalo is high enough to justify the cost.


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Re: Heat Interested In Arron Afflalo 

Post#96 » by DayofMourning » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:45 pm

Triple A would be a nice addition to this team regardless of what Wade does position wise. Wade assuredly will miss more games an having a good player as insurance for that would be great for us. His acquisition would likely signal that Mario is on the outs and that would be a net positive.

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