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Re: Buyout Watch 

Post#21 » by gom » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:12 pm

I'm all for Spo's head exploding. It can only help.
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Re: Buyout Watch 

Post#22 » by IggieCC » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:13 pm

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I'd probably agree with Rex the Admiral here. If we can't trade for Knight or Dragic caliber PG (though both very unlikely...), not sure what's the point of upgrading our roster slightly with some washedup veterans.
But Afflalo and Sanders.. hmmm those are actually intriguing names if they can be attained at all.



The better question is what's the harm in upgrading our roster and possibly shaking things up so long as it doesn't mess with 2016 plans. The higher our playoff seeding the better. Especially since we don't have our 1st round pick if we make the playoffs.

Not sold on any of them on the list tbh. Is Amare really an upgrade over Birdman? Have you seen him play basketball lately??? I don't think the guy played in a month and when he did, his team was beyond horrible. If he is bought out, and if he is willing to play for a borderline playoff team, and those are BIG IFS, I guess he will help us a little bit maybe better than Granger and the rest of our backup PFs.. but.. I don't know it will change anything in a big picture. If someone who can really help this team is available, esp. a PG, sure.

I am just not very optimistic about game-chaging buyouts falling onto our lap scenario. I could be wrong though.
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Re: Buyout Watch 

Post#23 » by dancing2thabeet » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:16 pm

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dancing2thabeet wrote:With the emergence of Whiteside, we might as well try to make some noise in the playoffs this year. But for that to happen, we need a PG, a backup wing and a backup PF. One can argue that we might have a PG in Napier and I would agree. A case could be made for Ennis as a wing too, but I'm not sold on him yet. We need to trade for one out of wing/PF and probably get another from the list in OP (which hopefully grows because it's rather sad right now - sans Amar'e, but I don't think they let him go) or get somebody from China.

Are we still 3 pieces away man? :lol: But seriously, that's a lot of pieces to integrate in mid Jan. Spo's head might explode.
We all know that he's not very good at trying new things and renovating and innovating his own team. lol


I'm not sure I follow. You think we are less than 3 pieces away?
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Re: Buyout Watch 

Post#24 » by IggieCC » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:30 pm

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dancing2thabeet wrote:With the emergence of Whiteside, we might as well try to make some noise in the playoffs this year. But for that to happen, we need a PG, a backup wing and a backup PF. One can argue that we might have a PG in Napier and I would agree. A case could be made for Ennis as a wing too, but I'm not sold on him yet. We need to trade for one out of wing/PF and probably get another from the list in OP (which hopefully grows because it's rather sad right now - sans Amar'e, but I don't think they let him go) or get somebody from China.

Are we still 3 pieces away man? :lol: But seriously, that's a lot of pieces to integrate in mid Jan. Spo's head might explode.
We all know that he's not very good at trying new things and renovating and innovating his own team. lol


I'm not sure I follow. You think we are less than 3 pieces away?

I don't know man.. maybe 5 pieces? This team is so up and down inconsistent it's hard to gauge. Tonight maybe a good test but we are probably not going to have Wade.

I think we are ONE good PG away from being pretty good in the East. And maybe a back up PF. So I largely agree with you.
In playoffs (if we can make it!) rotation shortens so I'm not too worried about backups. Just need a solid PG and it shouldn't be Cole/Rio. Napier, I don't know but most likely not the answer this year? I'm excited to see what he can do if given the chance though.
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Re: Buyout Watch 

Post#25 » by greg4012 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:30 pm

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I'd probably agree with Rex the Admiral here. If we can't trade for Knight or Dragic caliber PG (though both very unlikely...), not sure what's the point of upgrading our roster slightly with some washedup veterans.
But Afflalo and Sanders.. hmmm those are actually intriguing names if they can be attained at all.



The better question is what's the harm in upgrading our roster and possibly shaking things up so long as it doesn't mess with 2016 plans. The higher our playoff seeding the better. Especially since we don't have our 1st round pick if we make the playoffs.

Not sold on any of them on the list tbh. Is Amare really an upgrade over Birdman? Have you seen him play basketball lately??? I don't think the guy played in a month and when he did, his team was beyond horrible. If he is bought out, and if he is willing to play for a borderline playoff team, and those are BIG IFS, I guess he will help us a little bit maybe better than Granger and the rest of our backup PFs.. but.. I don't know it will change anything in a big picture. If someone who can really help this team is available, esp. a PG, sure.

I am just not very optimistic about game-chaging buyouts falling onto our lap scenario. I could be wrong though.


I'd actually argue that Amare is a slight downgrade from Birdman (when it comes to fit on our team). BUT, with the emergence of Whiteside, I think the possibility of adding a rotation big man like Amare will facilitate the ability to move Birdman (which is one of our more appealing trade assets). That could result in potentially adding a PG upgrade.

But, like I said, what it comes down to for me is that this would in now way disrupt the 2016 big picture plan, but could help us now
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Re: Buyout Watch 

Post#26 » by IggieCC » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:34 pm

greg4012 wrote:I'd actually argue that Amare is a slight downgrade from Birdman (when it comes to fit on our team). BUT, with the emergence of Whiteside, I think the possibility of adding a rotation big man like Amare will facilitate the ability to move Birdman (which is one of our more appealing trade assets). That could result in potentially adding a PG upgrade.

But, like I said, what it comes down to for me is that this would in now way disrupt the 2016 big picture plan, but could help us now

Oh I see. I think I missed your initial point about trading Bird. Bird and Whiteside played very well as centers last night so I am a little biased right now but it was against the Lakers so...

Yeah, if shaking things up will net us anything substantial, I don't mind at all.
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Re: Buyout Watch 

Post#27 » by dancing2thabeet » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:05 pm

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IggieCC wrote:Are we still 3 pieces away man? :lol: But seriously, that's a lot of pieces to integrate in mid Jan. Spo's head might explode.
We all know that he's not very good at trying new things and renovating and innovating his own team. lol


I'm not sure I follow. You think we are less than 3 pieces away?

I don't know man.. maybe 5 pieces? This team is so up and down inconsistent it's hard to gauge. Tonight maybe a good test but we are probably not going to have Wade.

I think we are ONE good PG away from being pretty good in the East. And maybe a back up PF. So I largely agree with you.
In playoffs (if we can make it!) rotation shortens so I'm not too worried about backups. Just need a solid PG and it shouldn't be Cole/Rio. Napier, I don't know but most likely not the answer this year? I'm excited to see what he can do if given the chance though.


Oh, okay. 5 makes more sense. But I still think 3 would be enough for 1st round victory (unless we meet ATL/CHI)
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Re: Buyout Watch 

Post#28 » by IggieCC » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:15 pm

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I'm not sure I follow. You think we are less than 3 pieces away?

I don't know man.. maybe 5 pieces? This team is so up and down inconsistent it's hard to gauge. Tonight maybe a good test but we are probably not going to have Wade.

I think we are ONE good PG away from being pretty good in the East. And maybe a back up PF. So I largely agree with you.
In playoffs (if we can make it!) rotation shortens so I'm not too worried about backups. Just need a solid PG and it shouldn't be Cole/Rio. Napier, I don't know but most likely not the answer this year? I'm excited to see what he can do if given the chance though.


Oh, okay. 5 makes more sense. But I still think 3 would be enough for 1st round victory (unless we meet ATL/CHI)

If we can add 3 meaningful players, we are good man. Hope it happens but maybe we'll have to wait until near trade deadline or buyout playoff eligible deadline or something?
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Re: Buyout Watch 

Post#29 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:22 pm

greg4012 wrote:
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I'd probably agree with Rex the Admiral here. If we can't trade for Knight or Dragic caliber PG (though both very unlikely...), not sure what's the point of upgrading our roster slightly with some washedup veterans.
But Afflalo and Sanders.. hmmm those are actually intriguing names if they can be attained at all.



The better question is what's the harm in upgrading our roster and possibly shaking things up so long as it doesn't mess with 2016 plans. The higher our playoff seeding the better. Especially since we don't have our 1st round pick if we make the playoffs.

You got it. Even the smallest upgrade would not hurt. Talking about guys like Foye, Sessions, and Gordon who will come at pennies on the dollar but could make a huge impact. Anything over Cole just anything.
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Re: Buyout Watch 

Post#30 » by gom » Wed Jan 14, 2015 11:38 pm

Panda Friend 51 wrote:Anything over Cole just anything.
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Re: Buyout Watch 

Post#31 » by ReturnofMVP3 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:00 am

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ReturnofMVP3 wrote:I'd take a chance on Jameer. At least he can pass.

Ugh...while he is a better ball distributor than anything we have right now, his defense was bad before and it has actually deteriorated further (if that's possible).



The defender bit is true. As a second line backup I'm not sure if it would be that bad though. Good veteran presence.
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Post#32 » by dolphinatik » Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:15 am

the only interesting one is Nate because he is instant offense.
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Post#33 » by Paz » Thu Jan 15, 2015 3:27 am

I'm all for Amare. He has been playing really well off the bench.

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Post#34 » by IggieCC » Thu Jan 15, 2015 5:39 pm

Amar'e would be nice.

Just note that he hasn't played since Chirstmas (knee/but could be just tanking).

And I must wonder, should he get bought out, why would he choose us if he's free to sign with any contenders???

[edit] He just played today in.. UK? 8 mins o point. Now that I think about it, he'll probably get a lot of calls should be bought out.
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