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MIA @ TOR - 07:30 PM 03/13/15 ROAD TO THE PLAYOFFS

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Re: MIA @ TOR - 07:30 PM 03/13/15 ROAD TO THE PLAYOFFS 

Post#861 » by HIF » Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:26 pm

Dupas wrote:cmon..the coach staff have their share on our team status. I know we had alot of injuries but i just dont get it why walker is playing ahead of a ennis. I dont think ennis can play 30m but he can do atleast 20m of defense and toughness and i bet he would shoot better then walker. Theres little things that makes me doubt of the coaching staff..


And you'd probably say the same when Walker hits 2 3s at the end of a game to win it for us.

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Re: MIA @ TOR - 07:30 PM 03/13/15 ROAD TO THE PLAYOFFS 

Post#862 » by dancing2thabeet » Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:42 pm

3ballbomber wrote:he'll still be here bro. He has 2 rings and is Riley's understudy, protege. he ain't going any where. The only way they think about firing him is when we are true legit contenders and one: we continue to not make it out of the east or two: we make the finals but fail to win a title. You can't really judge him in these trying times w/ all the issues outside of our hands when just 2-3 years prior he lead us to 2 consecutive titles.


That's pretty much what I said.

This season has been a disaster injury-wise, but I feel we should be a bit higher up the rankings considering the talent we have and I can't help but to think coaching played a big part in that.

That being said, I agree we (myself included big time, especially in game threads) whine too much - but that's what I come over here for. I get overly enthusiastic when we win and overly pessimistic and bitchy when we lose. I say that I'm never watching our games again and whatnot, but I'm up till 3 AM our time just the next day watching our second night of back to back. I'd rather vent here and get it out of my system than to get pissed later on at somebody who doesn't deserve it.
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Re: MIA @ TOR - 07:30 PM 03/13/15 ROAD TO THE PLAYOFFS 

Post#863 » by Pure_Basketball » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:22 pm

twix2500 wrote:One thing i notice is that we are a horrible pick and pop team. I think we need to go back to the halfcourt post offense and start Beasley. Let the second unit be more defensive minded and stop worrying about having a scorer off the bench.

Yeah were starting games so slowly on offense, it took us twenty minutes of game time and until the 4 minute mark of the 2nd quarter to get to 25 **** points.
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Re: MIA @ TOR - 07:30 PM 03/13/15 ROAD TO THE PLAYOFFS 

Post#864 » by BenoUdrihFTL » Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:03 pm

krikor wrote:The team is not that good, a coach can not perform miracles. Spo proved himself last 4 year when u give him great squad he wins, and when he doesn't have great squad he loses.This is what happens about with every coach. Handful are the coaches that can win with bad teams.

This is a player game more then coaches game.


Sorry but we must've been watching different teams all these years. Spo has only proven himself to be a coach of underachieving teams. Forget about this season, which is a complete and utter disaster despite Riley managing to bring in solid talent. Let's look back into the past.

In the summer of 2010, when we signed the big 3, was 2 rings really all we expected out of that? Rick Carlisle coached circles around Spo in the 2011 Finals, when Spo was a few games slow on the uptake to respond to Carlisle's adjustment of putting Barea in the starting lineup creating a huge mismatch with the ghost of Mike Bibby. Instead Spo started Bibby until literally the final game; Bibby shot a wonderful .350% that series while playing matador defense. Since then both Carlisle and Mark Cuban have cited that Barea adjustment as having turned the series. Spo never responded at any point to Dallas' zone D, and instead kept the same offensive strategy the entire series, leaving the league's 3pt shootout champ James Jones on the bench in favor of Mike Miller who shot .306% in the series (outside shooting is one way of punishing zones). Remember all those LeBron post ups? Neither do I, because they didn't happen despite the fact that LeBron was cold and hesitant from outside all series. Everyone knows that one way to try getting a guy out of a funk is to try getting him easy baskets inside, the Heat never did that and instead insisted on using LeBron in the same outside shooter/facilitator role all series.

It was an injury to Chris Bosh in the 2012 playoffs, not some innovative offensive creativity from Spo, that had Miami make the move to smallball with LeBron at the 4. It worked for us in 2012 so we stuck with it. And then like he does with everything, Spo went full kneejerk extreme with it in following years.

In 2013 we were the benificiaries of a miracle Game 6. Reality is we were a single highly improbable play away from being 1 for 4 in the Big 3 era. Does anyone think 1 for 4 is anything short of dramatic underachieving?

In 2014 we were utterly dominated by the San Antonio system. In the NBA, "system" is code for "coaching", so the reality is we were once again destroyed in the coaching department despite having superior talent.

Prior to the Big 3, Spo had two years with a Dwyane Wade that was a top-2 player in the entire NBA, nearly on par with LeBron James. Despite having one of the 2 best players in the game, Spo's pre-Big3 Heat never got out of the first round. I don't care what the supporting talent was, being a 1st round doormat with a top-2 league player = underachieving.

Players of course bear responsibility for all this underachievement, but so does the coach. And the fact is that the one consistent theme of Spo's 7 year reign is underachievement.
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Re: MIA @ TOR - 07:30 PM 03/13/15 ROAD TO THE PLAYOFFS 

Post#865 » by dolphinatik » Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:25 pm

we totally underachieved the last few years. the 2 rings we did get came down to clutch shooting from first Mike Miller then Ray Allen. The first one it wasnt working with the starters Bron got so mad he basically told Spo who was going to be on the floor, we won that game and turned it around to win the first ring. Ultimately I think lack of coaching/planning is what led to Lebrons departure but we will never really know.

This was supposed to be Spo's year to shut the haters up and show how great of a coaching job he could do. Zen like phrases wont help us play better as a team.

and to the post above we did make it to the finals and fail to win with Spo, twice.
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Re: MIA @ TOR - 07:30 PM 03/13/15 ROAD TO THE PLAYOFFS 

Post#866 » by Paz » Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:51 pm

Coaching was and will be our problem until we get rid of Spo.
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Re: MIA @ TOR - 07:30 PM 03/13/15 ROAD TO THE PLAYOFFS 

Post#867 » by 3ballbomber » Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:21 am

dolphinatik wrote:we totally underachieved the last few years. the 2 rings we did get came down to clutch shooting from first Mike Miller then Ray Allen. The first one it wasnt working with the starters Bron got so mad he basically told Spo who was going to be on the floor, we won that game and turned it around to win the first ring. Ultimately I think lack of coaching/planning is what led to Lebrons departure but we will never really know.

This was supposed to be Spo's year to shut the haters up and show how great of a coaching job he could do. Zen like phrases wont help us play better as a team.

and to the post above we did make it to the finals and fail to win with Spo, twice.

yeeeaaah, that's why he left :o
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Re: MIA @ TOR - 07:30 PM 03/13/15 ROAD TO THE PLAYOFFS 

Post#868 » by HIF » Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:57 pm

3ballbomber wrote:
dolphinatik wrote:we totally underachieved the last few years. the 2 rings we did get came down to clutch shooting from first Mike Miller then Ray Allen. The first one it wasnt working with the starters Bron got so mad he basically told Spo who was going to be on the floor, we won that game and turned it around to win the first ring. Ultimately I think lack of coaching/planning is what led to Lebrons departure but we will never really know.

This was supposed to be Spo's year to shut the haters up and show how great of a coaching job he could do. Zen like phrases wont help us play better as a team.

and to the post above we did make it to the finals and fail to win with Spo, twice.

yeeeaaah, that's why he left :o


We ALREADY know that it wasn't anything to do with the coaching.
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