GT: HEAT @ RAPTORS Friday @ 7:30PM

[Bishop45]

Great game, ashamed to say the best part of the game for me was watching Derosen, Holy phuckimg chit!!! Didn't look like he was trying half the time

Honestly think this game was lost on boards, to a lesser extent, like our Hornets Spurs games. We're not good enough to botch rebounding, teams like GS and us Big three era can survive without two interior bigs because you don't have to get boards for made shots, teams with that type of talent stay efficient. We keep starting Babbitt to do nothing but mystify us with his presence and we'll lose many quality competitive games.

Winslow's game was terra-cringe and I'm sure we'll get more like it but I think a wearily embarrassing game like this one will do him some good. Whiteside and Haslem looked like they were getting into him for forcing the issue on a few breaks and sooner or later he'll have to respond productively to his teammates when they get on him- which will probably be often. He's a smart player and I think he'll respond well... But man DeFrozen is on a bean, this has to be one of the best NBA season starts in a while, good games and wild headlines every night

The bench units are struggling real bad papi...I think that's a bigger problem than Mion and Babbs starting. Not sure what can be done tho...other than playing McRoberts ofc, but Spo just won't play him and let me be happy.

I think giving Mion the keys to the bench and having Ellington and Rich spot up at the three would be better than what we're doing now. Not much we can do with the bench other then radically decide Reed, Johnson, or McBob (Where McBob/Johnson might play C) but taking down Dion and exiling Babbitt would help the whole be more efficient. Play Babbitt at the three or don't play him IMO once he's three point percentage falls under 35, I hope we can stop finding excuses to play him

[IggieCC]

So when can we trade for Rudy Gay

He would have been perfect for this game lol. He's literally the Raptor Killer.

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Rudy Gay will always hold a special place in my heart for this play

[Chalm Down]

Great game, ashamed to say the best part of the game for me was watching Derosen, Holy phuckimg chit!!! Didn't look like he was trying half the time

Honestly think this game was lost on boards, to a lesser extent, like our Hornets Spurs games. We're not good enough to botch rebounding, teams like GS and us Big three era can survive without two interior bigs because you don't have to get boards for made shots, teams with that type of talent stay efficient. We keep starting Babbitt to do nothing but mystify us with his presence and we'll lose many quality competitive games.

Winslow's game was terra-cringe and I'm sure we'll get more like it but I think a wearily embarrassing game like this one will do him some good. Whiteside and Haslem looked like they were getting into him for forcing the issue on a few breaks and sooner or later he'll have to respond productively to his teammates when they get on him- which will probably be often. He's a smart player and I think he'll respond well... But man DeFrozen is on a bean, this has to be one of the best NBA season starts in a while, good games and wild headlines every night

The bench units are struggling real bad papi...I think that's a bigger problem than Mion and Babbs starting. Not sure what can be done tho...other than playing McRoberts ofc, but Spo just won't play him and let me be happy.

I think giving Mion the keys to the bench and having Ellington and Rich spot up at the three would be better than what we're doing now. Not much we can do with the bench other then radically decide Reed, Johnson, or McBob (Where McBob/Johnson might play C) but taking down Dion and exiling Babbitt would help the whole be more efficient. Play Babbitt at the three or don't play him IMO once he's three point percentage falls under 35, I hope we can stop finding excuses to play him

Agree that having Dion off the bench would probably help. I'm still on Team Babbitt tho

Really wish we could see McPointSpeed5 one of these days. The bench desperately needs some play-making in my humble un-biased opinion.

[Bishop45]

The bench units are struggling real bad papi...I think that's a bigger problem than Mion and Babbs starting. Not sure what can be done tho...other than playing McRoberts ofc, but Spo just won't play him and let me be happy.

I think giving Mion the keys to the bench and having Ellington and Rich spot up at the three would be better than what we're doing now. Not much we can do with the bench other then radically decide Reed, Johnson, or McBob (Where McBob/Johnson might play C) but taking down Dion and exiling Babbitt would help the whole be more efficient. Play Babbitt at the three or don't play him IMO once he's three point percentage falls under 35, I hope we can stop finding excuses to play him

Agree that having Dion off the bench would probably help. I'm still on Team Babbitt tho

Really wish we could see McPointSpeed5 one of these days. The bench desperately needs some play-making in my humble un-biased opinion.

Man all I can think about is disaster and hunger when I think about McBob at the 5 but that might be bfa (best fit available) for the bench. I wanted to watch Reed be great but the bench might not need him as much as they desperately need Jesus. For gosh sakes James Johnon is leading the bench in assists... When our bench "PG" plays 30 MPG. Maybe other shooters will give McBob new purpose in life. I'm down for anything, just not Babbitt. Phuck Babbitt, team Babbitt will concede

[dancing2thabeet]

Like I said at the time, getting rid of both Beno and Weber was the biggest mistake. Sure, McGruder can turn into a solid two way player down the line, but he also might not. And his skillset will be *completely* redundant with Ellington and Rich healthy.

McBob saves. Ugh.

[Bishop45]

Like I said at the time, getting rid of both Beno and Weber was the biggest mistake. Sure, McGruder can turn into a solid two way player down the line, but he also might not. And his skillset will be *completely* redundant with Ellington and Rich healthy.

McBob saves. Ugh.

I also told the relegation it was a mistake, Weber is def not as bad as he performed and even then, Beno having to fight for a spot is almost unthinkable. Can't blame FO for trying to maximize opportunity/profit on a cheap asset but grading it as a roster move, kinda' poor tbh

Still hope Rod wins us a game someday but he might be too raw for this roster/bench

[Wildlinger]

That was the first game this season where Winslow's poor shooting outweighed everything else good he does on the floor. What bothered me the most was that he kept his head down on drives and didn't look for guys on the perimeter. With a higher game usage than Dragic he really should look to make plays for others instead of forcing bad shots. There were many instances where Dragic was completely alone at the 3 point line and didn't get the ball. Winslow and Waiters missed at least 2 great pass opportunities each and forced bad layups instead of making an easy pass to the open player. That's 12 potential points with the way Dragic's been shooting at the start of the season.





The ball just stopped moving after a great start, Toronto simply packed the paint and exploited Miami's lack of ball movement. The book is out on Miami. Spurs, Hornets and now Raptors all won with pretty much the same game plan. Miami has players who can open up the floor with their shooting, they just don't use them correctly.

[Heat_Fan_87]

Time to scale back winslow minutes and shot attempts, last night did nothing for his development except reinforce his poor shooting technique.

We have other guys that are better options to score. Unless we are on the tank strategy, in which case let winslow take all the shots.

Allowing our worst offensive player to lead the team in shot attempts is questionable. Teams are going to give him the open looks, he needs to be smart enough not to take them

[Chalm Down]

That was the first game this season where Winslow's poor shooting outweighed everything else good he does on the floor. What bothered me the most was that he kept his head down on drives and didn't look for guys on the perimeter. With a higher game usage than Dragic he really should look to make plays for others instead of forcing bad shots. There were many instances where Dragic was completely alone at the 3 point line and didn't get the ball. Winslow and Waiters missed at least 2 great pass opportunities each and forced bad layups instead of making an easy pass to the open player. That's 12 potential points with the way Dragic's been shooting at the start of the season.





The ball just stopped moving after a great start, Toronto simply packed the paint and exploited Miami's lack of ball movement. The book is out on Miami. Spurs, Hornets and now Raptors all won with pretty much the same game plan. Miami has players who can open up the floor with their shooting, they just don't use them correctly.

Aww Babbs and Dragic look so lonely in that last pic...and completely wide open

Don't know what Winslow was doing last night...you know something's off when even Whiteside is finding teammates better than he is

[BaDaBo]

That was the first game this season where Winslow's poor shooting outweighed everything else good he does on the floor. What bothered me the most was that he kept his head down on drives and didn't look for guys on the perimeter. With a higher game usage than Dragic he really should look to make plays for others instead of forcing bad shots. There were many instances where Dragic was completely alone at the 3 point line and didn't get the ball. Winslow and Waiters missed at least 2 great pass opportunities each and forced bad layups instead of making an easy pass to the open player. That's 12 potential points with the way Dragic's been shooting at the start of the season.





The ball just stopped moving after a great start, Toronto simply packed the paint and exploited Miami's lack of ball movement. The book is out on Miami. Spurs, Hornets and now Raptors all won with pretty much the same game plan. Miami has players who can open up the floor with their shooting, they just don't use them correctly.

Aww Babbs and Dragic look so lonely in that last pic...and completely wide open

Don't know what Winslow was doing last night...you know something's off when even Whiteside is finding teammates better than he is

If he and others pass in such situations and we hit a respectable number of threes, the next time they drive odds are it's going to be an easy layup. Making things hard on themselves they are.

Spoiler:

[KingDavid]

That was the first game this season where Winslow's poor shooting outweighed everything else good he does on the floor. What bothered me the most was that he kept his head down on drives and didn't look for guys on the perimeter. With a higher game usage than Dragic he really should look to make plays for others instead of forcing bad shots. There were many instances where Dragic was completely alone at the 3 point line and didn't get the ball. Winslow and Waiters missed at least 2 great pass opportunities each and forced bad layups instead of making an easy pass to the open player. That's 12 potential points with the way Dragic's been shooting at the start of the season.





The ball just stopped moving after a great start, Toronto simply packed the paint and exploited Miami's lack of ball movement. The book is out on Miami. Spurs, Hornets and now Raptors all won with pretty much the same game plan. Miami has players who can open up the floor with their shooting, they just don't use them correctly.

I tried telling some posters that kept complaining about Hassan's lack of touches in previous games. It's because the paint is full of bodies. Teams are forcing us to beat them from downtown.

For the life of me, I can't seem to understand the decision of starting Dion over TJ.

We have a team full of bigs that can't shoot and starting a tweener at 4 who's only nba skill is shooting 3s and literally nothing else. You'd think it'd be like Channing Frye, but no. His shot is so slow, he needs to be wide open to attempt it. Actually now that I've mentioned it, I don't remember seeing Dragic use him on pick and pops?

[eddieheatfan]

That was the first game this season where Winslow's poor shooting outweighed everything else good he does on the floor. What bothered me the most was that he kept his head down on drives and didn't look for guys on the perimeter. With a higher game usage than Dragic he really should look to make plays for others instead of forcing bad shots. There were many instances where Dragic was completely alone at the 3 point line and didn't get the ball. Winslow and Waiters missed at least 2 great pass opportunities each and forced bad layups instead of making an easy pass to the open player. That's 12 potential points with the way Dragic's been shooting at the start of the season.





The ball just stopped moving after a great start, Toronto simply packed the paint and exploited Miami's lack of ball movement. The book is out on Miami. Spurs, Hornets and now Raptors all won with pretty much the same game plan. Miami has players who can open up the floor with their shooting, they just don't use them correctly.

I tried telling some posters that kept complaining about Hassan's lack of touches in previous games. It's because the paint is full of bodies. Teams are forcing us to beat them from downtown.

For the life of me, I can't seem to understand the decision of starting Dion over TJ.

We have a team full of bigs that can't shoot and starting a tweener at 4 who's only nba skill is shooting 3s and literally nothing else. You'd think it'd be like Channing Frye, but no. His shot is so slow, he needs to be wide open to attempt it. Actually now that I've mentioned it, I don't remember seeing Dragic use him on pick and pops?

i blame it all on the sporon

[HIF]

Again some pêople are expecting what we are not.

We are a team of a few young guns, a lot of journeymen and Goran.

We aren't going to win on the road against a playoff bound team very often.

For those who have been defending Babbit and Goran when they have + games, I guess they're defending Winslow today who had a + game but anyone watching the game saw what a mess his shooting confidence is and I blame that partly on the media who highlighted his shooting after only 1 game and then kept on.

Personally I enjoyed watching TJ in this game.

Other than that JJ had some good fun minutes and that's about it.

Whiteside's numbers are not a reflection on his game yesterday. He needs to put it all out there whilst he's in the game. Fans have been complaining that he doesn't get enough minutes but can he really handle a lot of minutes? I don't think so. He gets tired and when he's tired he's of little use.

It was nice to see JRich on the court even though as expected he did fairly poorly.

The rest.....pah!

[eddieheatfan]

Again some pêople are expecting what we are not.

We are a team of a few young guns, a lot of journeymen and Goran.

We aren't going to win on the road against a playoff bound team very often.

For those who have been defending Babbit and Goran when they have + games, I guess they're defending Winslow today who had a + game but anyone watching the game saw what a mess his shooting confidence is and I blame that partly on the media who highlighted his shooting after only 1 game and then kept on.

Personally I enjoyed watching TJ in this game.

Other than that JJ had some good fun minutes and that's about it.

Whiteside's numbers are not a reflection on his game yesterday. He needs to put it all out there whilst he's in the game. Fans have been complaining that he doesn't get enough minutes but can he really handle a lot of minutes? I don't think so. He gets tired and when he's tired he's of little use.

It was nice to see JRich on the court even though as expected he did fairly poorly.

The rest.....pah!

yeah i have just tempered mine,this team is headed to the lottery ...

Spoiler:

.goes looking for his lithium

[Kabookalu]

I tried telling some posters that kept complaining about Hassan's lack of touches in previous games. It's because the paint is full of bodies. Teams are forcing us to beat them from downtown.

Funny that I kept telling Raptors fans the same thing about Jonas for how many seasons he's been here. He'll always start off with like 6 straight points, and then the other team will call a timeout and pack the paint/shadow him to put on the pressure. Jonas won't see the ball for a while and the blame all goes to our selfish guards. Players like these need to step out from the paint and knock down jumpers and exploit the defense. The only elite post player I know of that got away without needing to do this is Shaq.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

That was the first game this season where Winslow's poor shooting outweighed everything else good he does on the floor. What bothered me the most was that he kept his head down on drives and didn't look for guys on the perimeter. With a higher game usage than Dragic he really should look to make plays for others instead of forcing bad shots. There were many instances where Dragic was completely alone at the 3 point line and didn't get the ball. Winslow and Waiters missed at least 2 great pass opportunities each and forced bad layups instead of making an easy pass to the open player. That's 12 potential points with the way Dragic's been shooting at the start of the season.





The ball just stopped moving after a great start, Toronto simply packed the paint and exploited Miami's lack of ball movement. The book is out on Miami. Spurs, Hornets and now Raptors all won with pretty much the same game plan. Miami has players who can open up the floor with their shooting, they just don't use them correctly.

I can deal with Winslow missing shots because hes not good at it. But he's usually good at looking for his teammates he just seemed to want to get himself out of the funk which lead to bad shots. Winslow can easily lead this team in assists I wish he'd concentrate on that more and let the game come to him.

[J-House]

So when can we trade for Rudy Gay

He would have been perfect for this game lol. He's literally the Raptor Killer.

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Rudy Gay will always hold a special place in my heart for this play

"Not this guy!" Haha that had my dying

[Bishop45]

Eiz happening

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Just wait til' Rich and [can't believe I'm saying this] Wellington come back to form

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[Bishop45]

Thought I missed Powell Ranger but I guess he played and had a quiet game, still a beast TOR's deep down there

Such an impressive outing by derosen, no forced shots like before. Good shots, footwork, everything smooth

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Winslow doesn't even need to find his shot, just work on foot work, hesitation moves/initiating contact and getting to the line. Definitely has that skill in his arsenal, he needs to build on that. Just can't put his head down and run into a tunnel of bricks like he did here when they started daring him, as long as he keeps letting teams get to him they'll keep doing that. Learn some real hesitation moves/initiating contact and nobody would dare to put any slow-footed big on him

Simple fakes and slight of motion and he'd finish alot more of these buckets around the rim

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