Shewasfly wrote:Bishop45 wrote:Shewasfly wrote:
We did it in 2008-2010 and we had the best player in the league (or 2nd best before LeBron fans come interjecting). We are noticeably further away from even being a playoff team let alone a contender now, so why is this so much more irresponsible?
Maybe if we get a franchise player in the draft by the time they are ready to contribute to a contender, Whiteside will still only be 31 in a big man poor league. By then Winslow and J rich should be as developed as they are going to be as well. I don't see a downside to going through the draft, because I don't see how there is any other option with the potential to take us further faster. No superstar is coming here in FA, and unless you think we can trade Winslow, J Rich, TJ for a superstar, we may as well develop them internally.
What did we do in 2008-10? Did we trade any serviceable starters so we could tank? Wade was much younger than Whiteside and much closer in age with the rest of our core. And furthermore, never tanked. Whiteside at 31 could be multiple things, if we keep him here to tank until he's over 30 then we'd be wasting a huge asset to our rebuild... Wouldn't be the smartest plan for us.
Draft doesn't translate to ultimately getting a superstar, there's actually a more realistic shot at one through FA or through trade but okay
But you don't seem to realize we didn't have any serviceable starters to begin with because we were planning ahead. We did trade away Shaq and others because it wasn't a long term solution, even though with healthy Wade it would have been enough to keep us in the playoffs and maybe even competitive for another season or two. And we didn't tank because we couldn't have. Wade was that good. You take him out and those are 20 win, full fledged 'tank squad' teams, just like this current one except its like that with Dragic and Whiteside giving maybe 5-10 more wins to be generous.
You obviously think we have more of a realistic shot in FA than I do, because as is imo we don't have a good team and therefore no incentive for anyone to come. Its not like we're bad with Giannis or Westbrook on our team, we're bad with Dragic and Whiteside. What more can we offer than Boston can? And they are one of the worst of the teams that can go after FAs at the same time as us. I could understand if you were saying we should trade for a star, but you're saying if we trade Dragic for picks we may as well trade Whiteside for picks too and do some type of super rebuild. Makes no sense.
We traded Shaq for good players and obviously cause he wanted out and wasn't very effective anymore, not for Picks. We didn't leave Wade high and dry with nobody. Purposely trading serviceable starters for picks is tanking, furthermore tanking years of a top ten center on a good contract that would be more serviceable to our "Super-rebuild". What is a Super rebuild and how does it differ from a regular one, whatever that is
False equivalency, trading Dragic and/or Whiteside is borderline irresponsible
It's not about how much of a shot we have at FA, that chance is automatically better than the probability of getting a Superstar from the draft to turnout. It's basic logistic math
