Miami Heat @ Cleveland Cavaliers - Friday 12/9 @ 7:30PM EST

[Bishop45]

Lol at people wanting to trade Hassan.... This board keeps me laughing. And keep dreaming if you think Cousins is coming here. This guy is wanted for assault in a club with Matt Barnes, that's the perfect role model for Markelle Fultz right?

When did Markeller get here and when was everyone in the league everyone elses (On their teams) role models?

[Rich2Hassan]

Lol at people wanting to trade Hassan.... This board keeps me laughing. And keep dreaming if you think Cousins is coming here. This guy is wanted for assault in a club with Matt Barnes, that's the perfect role model for Markelle Fultz right?

When did Markeller get here and when was everyone in the league everyone elses (On their teams) role models?

Like i said, Cousins is a cancer and a meat head. Spo would get bullied so much by this dude your head will spin. Did i mention he's a coach killer too? Riley will never trade for him.

[Bishop45]

Bish, you are fickle man. You either with Hassan or against him. I've noticed during Hassan's good games you don't say much, but when he has a bad game you are all over it. Some forget, you take Hassan off this team and no one is left.Keep thinking Winslow will learn to shoot, because he wont. #RenaldoBalkman2.0

Not fickle at all, Go to GT's of all his good games, especially Philly and Chi. Numbers or not his effort was dookie. You want to build around that, then fine but with the teams current situation I'll stand with Balkman

It's not like I don't like Hassan, you just drift too from criticism that he rightfully deserves. If we could trade Justise for George, so he can play with Hassan, I'd say do it in a second but when your million dollar man who's still a great asset wants to walk like a champion... He can get traded to his comfort

[Rich2Hassan]

Bish, you are fickle man. You either with Hassan or against him. I've noticed during Hassan's good games you don't say much, but when he has a bad game you are all over it. Some forget, you take Hassan off this team and no one is left.Keep thinking Winslow will learn to shoot, because he wont. #RenaldoBalkman2.0

Not fickle at all, Go to GT's of all his good games, especially Philly and Chi. Numbers or not his effort was dookie. You want to build around that, then fine but with the teams current situation I'll stand with Balkman

It's not like I don't like Hassan, you just drift too from criticism that he rightfully deserves. If we could trade Justise for George, so he can play with Hassan, I'd say do it in a second but when your million dollar man who's still a great asset wants to walk like a champion... He can get traded to his comfort

I want to build with him..I never claimed Hassan was a franchise player (Go back and read posts) But someone who is a great second-third option on a good team. Hassan has his flaws just like any other player, but to continue to talk down on him for having a few bad games is crazy. Hassan is a MIAMI HEAT PLAYER. When you call out Winslow who has gotten WORSE in his second season, then i can take your criticism of Hassan serious.

[Bishop45]

Bish, you are fickle man. You either with Hassan or against him. I've noticed during Hassan's good games you don't say much, but when he has a bad game you are all over it. Some forget, you take Hassan off this team and no one is left.Keep thinking Winslow will learn to shoot, because he wont. #RenaldoBalkman2.0

Not fickle at all, Go to GT's of all his good games, especially Philly and Chi. Numbers or not his effort was dookie. You want to build around that, then fine but with the teams current situation I'll stand with Balkman

It's not like I don't like Hassan, you just drift too from criticism that he rightfully deserves. If we could trade Justise for George, so he can play with Hassan, I'd say do it in a second but when your million dollar man who's still a great asset wants to walk like a champion... He can get traded to his comfort

I want to build with him..I never claimed Hassan was a franchise player (Go back and read posts) But someone who is a great second-third option on a good team. Hassan has his flaws just like any other player, but to continue to talk down on him for having a few bad games is crazy. Hassan is a MIAMI HEAT PLAYER. When you call out Winslow who has gotten WORSE in his second season, then i can take your criticism of Hassan serious.

Winslow was doing fine, he had some good games and some bad ones. Difference was Winslow competed. Hassan is naturally dominant, still doesn't excuse his terrible effort. This isn't about Winslow, not sure why you're dead on attacking him. Whiteside's attitude + effort on the court sucks, if we're rebuilding to the point that we won't have a much better 1st or 2nd in 3 or 4 yrs then trade him now for the benefit of the team

[Rich2Hassan]

Not fickle at all, Go to GT's of all his good games, especially Philly and Chi. Numbers or not his effort was dookie. You want to build around that, then fine but with the teams current situation I'll stand with Balkman

It's not like I don't like Hassan, you just drift too from criticism that he rightfully deserves. If we could trade Justise for George, so he can play with Hassan, I'd say do it in a second but when your million dollar man who's still a great asset wants to walk like a champion... He can get traded to his comfort

I want to build with him..I never claimed Hassan was a franchise player (Go back and read posts) But someone who is a great second-third option on a good team. Hassan has his flaws just like any other player, but to continue to talk down on him for having a few bad games is crazy. Hassan is a MIAMI HEAT PLAYER. When you call out Winslow who has gotten WORSE in his second season, then i can take your criticism of Hassan serious.

Winslow was doing fine, he had some good games and some bad ones. Difference was Winslow competed. Hassan is naturally dominant, still doesn't excuse his terrible effort. This isn't about Winslow, not sure why you're dead on attacking him. Whiteside's attitude + effort on the court sucks, if we're rebuilding to the point that we won't have a much better 1st or 2nd in 3 or 4 yrs then trade him now for the benefit of the team

Winslow was doing fine?? End of convo. .29% FG in his last games, yeah he was doing fine alright.

[Dmcdani6]

@N82Will you dont think Winslow will improve or can be better than he has the first half of this season??

Whiteside does look lethargic, but sometimes we do not get him involved enough. Seems like though everytime Whiteside gets the ball lately hes trying to do too much. Just hard times, if our full roster was available I dont think wed be as bad.

[gom]

There is a lot of overreaction in this thread. We took 7 players to play against the NBA champions and we lost. Whiteside, as gifted as he is, isn't going to win when everything is stacked against us. Move on to Chicago. We'll have J-Rich back for a few minutes, but we should lose that game too.

[leoshes]

Whiteside is here for his rebounding, shotblocking, & defending the rim. Not for his scoring. He is a great finisher, but he is not a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd option. Mutombo was the same way. + when you have bad perimeter defenders, that cripples your interior defense. Every time someone blows by their man its up to Whiteside to clean it up. But then who is there to help Whiteside? Noone. When Winslow, & J Rich come back our defense will get better.

[leoshes]

& of course when Dion comes back the tank will be strong again. Long live the Tank.

[Flash4thewin]

Where there any positives in this game? Ended up seeing fantastic beasts and where to find them, its not really what i was expecting but its an ok movie i guess.

[Rich2Hassan]

Whiteside is here for his rebounding, shotblocking, & defending the rim. Not for his scoring. He is a great finisher, but he is not a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd option. Mutombo was the same way. + when you have bad perimeter defenders, that cripples your interior defense. Every time someone blows by their man its up to Whiteside to clean it up. But then who is there to help Whiteside? Noone. When Winslow, & J Rich come back our defense will get better.

Exactly. This is a very good post.

[Bishop45]

There is a lot of overreaction in this thread. We took 7 players to play against the NBA champions and we lost. Whiteside, as gifted as he is, isn't going to win when everything is stacked against us. Move on to Chicago. We'll have J-Rich back for a few minutes, but we should lose that game too.

Whiteside lacking in effort and toppled with some selfishness on each end isn't new. The criticism is totally called for, we're seeing it more that usual because he doesn't has help but the point is that this is who he is. I don't see the non-empathetic angle here

[HeatFanDan]

That's because you're a badass.

You like For All Kings? The thrash bands have been representing recently. I like every Big 4 new album.

Yeah, that stuff is cool, but I prefer 80's thrash because I grew up with that stuff. I recently picked up the deluxe editions of Spreading the Disease and Among the Living. A lot of people hate on Joey Belladonna, but I always dug Anthrax. Charlie Benante is an absolute beast on the drums.

It's all about Slayer-Reign in Blood and South of Heaven. My mom's favorite band is Metallica so I grew up listening to Kill 'Em All and Ride the Lightning.

South of Heaven is a good album, but Slayer isn't really my thing. I don't like Tom Araya's vocals and all of King and Hanneman's solos sound the same to me.

[HeatNation88]

Any whereabouts on this guy DoM?

I know man. Board pioneers just dropping like flies. He got promoted due in large part to his activity level. Then plays us all and stops posting altogether. Wtf?

i'm still waiting on this guy. such lies.

If I get 400 And1s today I will And1 everyone from all our game threads of the season and playoffs and that's a promise I will get that done

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I'm making my comeback shhhhhh