Big summer coming for Miami

[KingDavid]

http://slicemiami.com/2017/03/30/gordon-hayward-miami-heat/

'Whispers' of Hayward joining us

Nah he ain't coming here. That has Boston written all over it.

[leoshes]

I think Dion won't get more than $12-14 mil per year in a multi-year deal

I hope your right.

[CanesHeatFins]

Well the problem is that Waiters and Johnson will get paid, either here or with another team. Isn't next years draft pick going to the Suns unprotected? Say Waiters gets 20 mil (market rate) and the rest goes to Johnson. We would be locked to this team for the future. Also the Tyler issue will come into play. Tyler will get paid 20mil so looking at that as a base point watch Waiters get 20 easily.

Waiters isn't getting 20 mil and Tyler is only the books at 19 mil for 1 year before he can opt out and work out a longer term deal that helps the team and still gets him paid.

If Waiters plays good in the playoffs watch some team like the Nets offer him 20 mil. All it takes is one team to over pay. If anything we should have leaned these past offseasons is that teams will over pay.

As for Tyler if he wanted to he could have taken the same deal with a more team friendly cap spread but choose not to. Lets repeat that, he chose not to, he didnt want to get traded. Now the argument is Tyler will opt out of 20 mil while he is still young instead of cashing in his 20 and then hit the FA market. Tyler is not an old player? Doesnt really make much sense does it?

Bro this board is awesome, but they kinda catch on a little slow when it comes our players value on the market, from Bosh, to Dragic, Deng,joe johnson,Wade,Hassan,to TJ. They'll accept reality at around June 27th when those rumors start to swirl about Waiters getting that CJ McCollum money. And JJ getting only a little less than that Deng money. The only way that Waiters gets "only" a 12-14mil deal is if he decides to take a discount for us.

[HeatFanLifer]

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[KingDavid]

Ira W. today noted in the sun sentinel that if the Heat plan on keeping Waiters, JJ, and signing a big time FA they will have to clear out some money. Any thoughts on who? I say package McIRoberts with TJ for anything. As much as TJ puts his heart into the team, he's not shooting at a particular good clip, isn't playing lights out defense, and isn't going to get good minutes on a championship contending team. Sell high.

Lol with that contract?? Naw, we're stuck with tj. Dion will get maxed likely by Brooklyn and Jj is also going to get paid a LOT of money from somewhere else too.

I wonder why the team didn't put options on their contracts...

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http://slicemiami.com/2017/03/30/gordon-hayward-miami-heat/

'Whispers' of Hayward joining us

Nah he ain't coming here. That has Boston written all over it.

Why leave Utah for Boston? At least we have nice weather and no state income tax. Boston has crappy weather, and you get taxed up the ass. I know that Stevens is in Boston, but Hayward was only with him for 2 years. He's been with Quin Snyder longer than that.

Honestly I think if he leaves Utah, Miami makes as much sense as anyplace.

[KingDavid]

http://slicemiami.com/2017/03/30/gordon-hayward-miami-heat/

'Whispers' of Hayward joining us

Nah he ain't coming here. That has Boston written all over it.

Why leave Utah for Boston? At least we have nice weather and no state income tax. Boston has crappy weather, and you get taxed up the ass. I know that Stevens is in Boston, but Hayward was only with him for 2 years. He's been with Quin Snyder longer than that.

Honestly I think if he leaves Utah, Miami makes as much sense as anyplace.

Boston is one great sf away from being a true contender. He's white, and they love their white stars up there. His relationship with Stevens is huge too. Utah isn't much of a contender at all and aren't really in position to greatly improve. The Celtics on the other hand have 2 bkn picks that they can use or trade for another great player if need be. So if he were seeking greener pastures, Boston seems like the better fit for him than down here.

Yeah we have the better weather, but I don't believe we have any connection to him? Correct me if I'm wrong though. If he loves our weather that much, he could just live here during the off-season, lol.

[Wolfy1983]

Nah he ain't coming here. That has Boston written all over it.

Why leave Utah for Boston? At least we have nice weather and no state income tax. Boston has crappy weather, and you get taxed up the ass. I know that Stevens is in Boston, but Hayward was only with him for 2 years. He's been with Quin Snyder longer than that.

Honestly I think if he leaves Utah, Miami makes as much sense as anyplace.

Boston is one great sf away from being a true contender. He's white, and they love their white stars up there. His relationship with Stevens is huge too. Utah isn't much of a contender at all and aren't really in position to greatly improve. The Celtics on the other hand have 2 bkn picks that they can use or trade for another great player if need be. So if he were seeking greener pastures, Boston seems like the better fit for him than down here.

Yeah we have the better weather, but I don't believe we have any connection to him? Correct me if I'm wrong though. If he loves our weather that much, he could just live here during the off-season, lol.

Damn KD, how many pieces do we need to contend? You don't think Hayward would make us a legit contender in the East?

[KingDavid]

Why leave Utah for Boston? At least we have nice weather and no state income tax. Boston has crappy weather, and you get taxed up the ass. I know that Stevens is in Boston, but Hayward was only with him for 2 years. He's been with Quin Snyder longer than that.

Honestly I think if he leaves Utah, Miami makes as much sense as anyplace.

Boston is one great sf away from being a true contender. He's white, and they love their white stars up there. His relationship with Stevens is huge too. Utah isn't much of a contender at all and aren't really in position to greatly improve. The Celtics on the other hand have 2 bkn picks that they can use or trade for another great player if need be. So if he were seeking greener pastures, Boston seems like the better fit for him than down here.

Yeah we have the better weather, but I don't believe we have any connection to him? Correct me if I'm wrong though. If he loves our weather that much, he could just live here during the off-season, lol.

Damn KD, how many pieces do we need to contend? You don't think Hayward would make us a legit contender in the East?

I don't think we could afford him after paying Dion and jj. We don't have a player like IT either to pair him with.

[Flash4thewin]

Ira W. today noted in the sun sentinel that if the Heat plan on keeping Waiters, JJ, and signing a big time FA they will have to clear out some money. Any thoughts on who? I say package McIRoberts with TJ for anything. As much as TJ puts his heart into the team, he's not shooting at a particular good clip, isn't playing lights out defense, and isn't going to get good minutes on a championship contending team. Sell high.

Lol with that contract?? Naw, we're stuck with tj. Dion will get maxed likely by Brooklyn and Jj is also going to get paid a LOT of money from somewhere else too.

I wonder why the team didn't put options on their contracts...

TJ is a negative asset. To move him and his contract one would have to offer a high first round pick for it to make sense to the other team. Maybe TJ and McRoberts can get us Noah but that's a titanic contract in itself.

[King_Supreme]

You guys are too down on TJ, he has some value. He can create his own shot and score in spurts, advanced stats compare him to CJ McCullom(look at ws/48).

[Heat_Fan_87]

TJ is fine, but not if we are asking him to our #2 option. when

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TJ is fine, but not if we are asking him to our #2 option.

No disputing that TJ is an NBA level talent. That contract though is brutal. At best he is the 8th guy off the bench on a 7 or 8 seed playoff team. I hope he improves this offseason to become a solid sixth man on a competitive team, but it's not just his talent that is lacking. Tj also isn't the smartest player on the floor. Here's hoping he turns it around, but if the right deal pops up to simply get rid of the contract I wouldn't say he is untouchable.

I don't agree with that. I would say that at worst he's an 8th man for a #1 or #2 seed. IMO he's already a quality 6th man type. The issue is that in a couple of seasons, he'll be earning starter money. In fact he'll be earning more than Dragic, and it's hard to see him ever becoming more than a marginal starter.

But that's a problem for another day.

[contract]

Ira W. today noted in the sun sentinel that if the Heat plan on keeping Waiters, JJ, and signing a big time FA they will have to clear out some money. Any thoughts on who? I say package McIRoberts with TJ for anything. As much as TJ puts his heart into the team, he's not shooting at a particular good clip, isn't playing lights out defense, and isn't going to get good minutes on a championship contending team. Sell high.

Lol with that contract?? Naw, we're stuck with tj. Dion will get maxed likely by Brooklyn and Jj is also going to get paid a LOT of money from somewhere else too.

I wonder why the team didn't put options on their contracts...

TJ is a negative asset. To move him and his contract one would have to offer a high first round pick for it to make sense to the other team. Maybe TJ and McRoberts can get us Noah but that's a titanic contract in itself.

His contract is a negative asset, but for now, he's a very positive asset for this team. It would be great to move the contract, but it would hurt this team to move the player.