GT: Wizards @ Heat, Wednesday Oct 11th, 7:30 PM EST

[Heat_Fan_87]

i passed out after half time. smfh

[Heat_Fan_87]

Even amidst all the disappointment I still can't help but see a ton of potential in Justise. Defends well, gets to the rim so easily, handles look good and he's really able to find open teammates.

Being such a terrible finisher and shooter takes a dump all over those qualities, it's sad.

It's sad until you realize he's 21 and his weaknesses may lead him to re-sign at an affordable amount here and develop into a hell of a player by the time he's 25-26

If I had the pick 1 weakness that i want my future stud to have, I'll pick shooting every time.

It's the most correctable one out of all of : defense, charcter, passing, leadership, handle, bb iq, body, speed.

He's rusty with his shooting and finishing, it will come. Give it time. He's helpful in other ways in the meantime.

I beileve.

we have to believe, we have no other choice. he would be a good fit on a team like golden state where its ok if you have one guy on the floor that cant shoot. but in miami, we need everyone thats not a center to be a shooting threat, thats how our system and spacing work. when winslow is on the floor its an invitation for opposing teams to just pack the paint

[Bishop45]

Gotta find minutes for Bam, McGruder/Ellington's the only non-Winslow candidates I can think of... but want some Bam minutes. Athletic big fits well

[PizzaLord305]

It's sad until you realize he's 21 and his weaknesses may lead him to re-sign at an affordable amount here and develop into a hell of a player by the time he's 25-26

If I had the pick 1 weakness that i want my future stud to have, I'll pick shooting every time.

It's the most correctable one out of all of : defense, charcter, passing, leadership, handle, bb iq, body, speed.

He's rusty with his shooting and finishing, it will come. Give it time. He's helpful in other ways in the meantime.

I beileve.

we have to believe, we have no other choice. he would be a good fit on a team like golden state where its ok if you have one guy on the floor that cant shoot. but in miami, we need everyone thats not a center to be a shooting threat, thats how our system and spacing work. when winslow is on the floor its an invitation for opposing teams to just pack the paint

There are other ways to create spacing on a court. If whiteside can hit mid range j's enough to warrant respect from there, Winslow can help ensure spacing by either having the ball in his hands in pnr or being a threat to cut. We'd just need people to not sag off on him. We don't necessarily need him to be a reliable 3 point shooter to do so.

Most unreliable 3 point shooting wings like Andre Robertson, Tony Allen, Kidd gilchrist don't have the other qualities that Winslow has offensively. That's why you won't hear people complain about a spacing issue with Ricky Rubio or demar derozan. youll here criticism about their shooting in the context of their game, but not in the way it affects their teams spacing.

Basically lol, I think if Winslow shakes off the rust, he could play well alongside the starters, especially to close out games, even without being a good 3pt shooter

[PizzaLord305]

Gotta find minutes for Bam, McGruder/Ellington's the only non-Winslow candidates I can think of... but want some Bam minutes. Athletic big fits well

I think mcgruder should be the odd man out honestly. If winslows shooting is an issue, then just start j rich. I don't see mcgruder offering anything that j rich and Winslow don't already add. J rich is a better 3 pt shooter imo, and both he and Winslow are better defenders. I don't understand the purpose of mcgruder as a featured rotation piece, but I think he's just gonna be a 12/15 min a game token starter anyway

[MettaWorldPanda]

Gotta find minutes for Bam, McGruder/Ellington's the only non-Winslow candidates I can think of... but want some Bam minutes. Athletic big fits well

I think mcgruder should be the odd man out honestly. If winslows shooting is an issue, then just start j rich. I don't see mcgruder offering anything that j rich and Winslow don't already add. J rich is a better 3 pt shooter imo, and both he and Winslow are better defenders. I don't understand the purpose of mcgruder as a featured rotation piece, but I think he's just gonna be a 12/15 min a game token starter anyway

I think we definitely start the season with McGruder as the starter. If we come out the gates slow then i can see a change made. In the mean time McGruder will be that 12-15 min token starter as you suggested.

[ndnow]

I can't get over how well JRich is playing out there.

[Heat_Fan_87]

If I had the pick 1 weakness that i want my future stud to have, I'll pick shooting every time.

It's the most correctable one out of all of : defense, charcter, passing, leadership, handle, bb iq, body, speed.

He's rusty with his shooting and finishing, it will come. Give it time. He's helpful in other ways in the meantime.

I beileve.

we have to believe, we have no other choice. he would be a good fit on a team like golden state where its ok if you have one guy on the floor that cant shoot. but in miami, we need everyone thats not a center to be a shooting threat, thats how our system and spacing work. when winslow is on the floor its an invitation for opposing teams to just pack the paint

There are other ways to create spacing on a court. If whiteside can hit mid range j's enough to warrant respect from there, Winslow can help ensure spacing by either having the ball in his hands in pnr or being a threat to cut. We'd just need people to not sag off on him. We don't necessarily need him to be a reliable 3 point shooter to do so.

Most unreliable 3 point shooting wings like Andre Robertson, Tony Allen, Kidd gilchrist don't have the other qualities that Winslow has offensively. That's why you won't hear people complain about a spacing issue with Ricky Rubio or demar derozan. youll here criticism about their shooting in the context of their game, but not in the way it affects their teams spacing.

Basically lol, I think if Winslow shakes off the rust, he could play well alongside the starters, especially to close out games, even without being a good 3pt shooter

the only time winslow should close a game is garbage time.

[Heat_Fan_87]

Gotta find minutes for Bam, McGruder/Ellington's the only non-Winslow candidates I can think of... but want some Bam minutes. Athletic big fits well

give winlsow minutes to bam. mcgruder and ellington are productive shooters we need on the floor.

winslow is easily replaceable, proof is in last seasons results.

[BFRESH44]

Gotta find minutes for Bam, McGruder/Ellington's the only non-Winslow candidates I can think of... but want some Bam minutes. Athletic big fits well

give winlsow minutes to bam. mcgruder and ellington are productive shooters we need on the floor.

winslow is easily replaceable, proof is in last seasons results.

Lol. There's reasonable pessimism, and then there is hating. There's also proof of him being a valuable contributor who makes winning plays along with being an impact defender, the proof was in his rookie season. C'mon now.

[Heat_Fan_87]

Gotta find minutes for Bam, McGruder/Ellington's the only non-Winslow candidates I can think of... but want some Bam minutes. Athletic big fits well

give winlsow minutes to bam. mcgruder and ellington are productive shooters we need on the floor.

winslow is easily replaceable, proof is in last seasons results.

Lol. There's reasonable pessimism, and then there is hating. There's also proof of him being a valuable contributor who makes winning plays along with being an impact defender, the proof was in his rookie season. C'mon now.

fair enough, his rookie season he showed flashes and still does. as i said earlier, there is no choice but to hope he turns it around and as long as he isn't forced into a role/asked to do too much he may reach expectations

Maybe i place too much value in shooting/spacing, there have been awful shooters that turn out avg shooting from the corners, that would be a good start. he has had a lot of time to work on the technique and i dont see a ton of improvement there, who did micahel kidd ghilcrest work with?

[PizzaLord305]

we have to believe, we have no other choice. he would be a good fit on a team like golden state where its ok if you have one guy on the floor that cant shoot. but in miami, we need everyone thats not a center to be a shooting threat, thats how our system and spacing work. when winslow is on the floor its an invitation for opposing teams to just pack the paint

There are other ways to create spacing on a court. If whiteside can hit mid range j's enough to warrant respect from there, Winslow can help ensure spacing by either having the ball in his hands in pnr or being a threat to cut. We'd just need people to not sag off on him. We don't necessarily need him to be a reliable 3 point shooter to do so.

Most unreliable 3 point shooting wings like Andre Robertson, Tony Allen, Kidd gilchrist don't have the other qualities that Winslow has offensively. That's why you won't hear people complain about a spacing issue with Ricky Rubio or demar derozan. youll here criticism about their shooting in the context of their game, but not in the way it affects their teams spacing.

Basically lol, I think if Winslow shakes off the rust, he could play well alongside the starters, especially to close out games, even without being a good 3pt shooter

the only time winslow should close a game is garbage time.

Yeah one of the best defenders in the NBA should be regulated to garbage time ok

[Heat_Fan_87]

There are other ways to create spacing on a court. If whiteside can hit mid range j's enough to warrant respect from there, Winslow can help ensure spacing by either having the ball in his hands in pnr or being a threat to cut. We'd just need people to not sag off on him. We don't necessarily need him to be a reliable 3 point shooter to do so.

Most unreliable 3 point shooting wings like Andre Robertson, Tony Allen, Kidd gilchrist don't have the other qualities that Winslow has offensively. That's why you won't hear people complain about a spacing issue with Ricky Rubio or demar derozan. youll here criticism about their shooting in the context of their game, but not in the way it affects their teams spacing.

Basically lol, I think if Winslow shakes off the rust, he could play well alongside the starters, especially to close out games, even without being a good 3pt shooter

the only time winslow should close a game is garbage time.

Yeah one of the best defenders in the NBA should be regulated to garbage time ok

i went over board with the comment, he wouldnt be in my closing 5

[Chalm Down]

I guess it's going to be up to injuries to save us again this season.

McGruder died for our basketball sins

[Bishop45]

I guess it's going to be up to injuries to save us again this season.

McGruder died for our basketball sins

Wish injury on players brehs

[contract]

I guess it's going to be up to injuries to save us again this season.

McGruder died for our basketball sins

Yeah, not what I had in mind. This doesn't help us at all.

[contract]

I guess it's going to be up to injuries to save us again this season.

McGruder died for our basketball sins

Wish injury on players brehs

Actually I wish to have a particular player's ass glued to the bench at least until he can hit free throws. Injury is just the only viable means of achieving that since defending that draft pick seems to have superceded winning as an organizational goal.

If not for injuries last season, there would have been no 2nd half surge. Instead we would have all been treated to more months of Winslow's "development", and Josh "I'm too scared to shoot the **** ball, and I suck when I do" McRoberts.

Sometimes injuries are a blessing.

[Bishop45]

McGruder died for our basketball sins

Wish injury on players brehs

Actually I wish to have a particular player's ass glued to the bench at least until he can hit free throws. Injury is just the only viable means of achieving that since defending that draft pick seems to have superceded winning as an organizational goal.

If not for injuries last season, there would have been no 2nd half surge. Instead we would have all been treated to more months of Winslow's "development", and Josh "I'm too scared to shoot the **** ball, and I suck when I do" McRoberts.

Sometimes injuries are a blessing.

Can't blame Winslow for us going 11-30 when he didn't even play in half those games and McRoberts, who started even less, only got playing time because he was an upgrade to Babbitt at the time, injuries suck. Maybe with better health and continuity we can avoid problems that hindered the previous team