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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#741 » by Hallstar » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:41 pm

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Wiltside wrote:Not sure he’ll ever be a 15ppg scorer though honestly. Which wouldn’t be as much an issue if we had a legit go to scorer on this team.

Still think he should be trying to become our Draymond, and that’s how we should be using him. He definitely needs to improve his finishing ability and J though, no question.

Winslow can't be our Draymond Green because we don't have a Curry and a Thompson ... let alone a Durant.

Exactly, we keep paying complementary players and never considered who they would complement.
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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#742 » by contract » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:32 pm

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Wiltside wrote:Not sure he’ll ever be a 15ppg scorer though honestly. Which wouldn’t be as much an issue if we had a legit go to scorer on this team.

Still think he should be trying to become our Draymond, and that’s how we should be using him. He definitely needs to improve his finishing ability and J though, no question.

Winslow can't be our Draymond Green because we don't have a Curry and a Thompson ... let alone a Durant.

Exactly, we keep paying complementary players and never considered who they would complement.

Our "star" players are Whiteside and Dragic, and they are good, but they aren't stars. We can't afford to worry about who our complementary players complement, because we're not really building around anyone who is here now. Every player on this team is a placeholder and a trade piece.

As long as the contracts are tradeable, we're good.
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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#743 » by Mos_Heat » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:14 pm

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Mos_Heat wrote:Have to say, Tatum guy looked pretty darn goos.

Yea MOS. Him and James Brown or whatever guy.. they gon be a pest on both ends for years to come. Long super athletic guys.. pretty much our nemesis smh

Not so high about James Brown, he seems like a guy who does stupid chit every game. JRich like but bigger and better
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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#744 » by IggieCC » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:18 pm

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Mos_Heat wrote:Have to say, Tatum guy looked pretty darn goos.

Yea MOS. Him and James Brown or whatever guy.. they gon be a pest on both ends for years to come. Long super athletic guys.. pretty much our nemesis smh

Not so high about James Brown, he seems like a guy who does stupid chit every game. JRich like but bigger and better

Yea Mos, Tatum is the real deal here. But guys like Smart and James Brown make that Boston team very pesky. Gon be annoying

too bad Hayward is done for the season they could have seriously challenged the Cavs this season, they still can if Tatum develops quickly. #silver-lining
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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#745 » by Mos_Heat » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:23 pm

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IggieCC wrote:Yea MOS. Him and James Brown or whatever guy.. they gon be a pest on both ends for years to come. Long super athletic guys.. pretty much our nemesis smh

Not so high about James Brown, he seems like a guy who does stupid chit every game. JRich like but bigger and better

Yea Mos, Tatum is the real deal here. But guys like Smart and James Brown make that Boston team very pesky. Gon be annoying

too bad Hayward is done for the season they could have seriously challenged the Cavs this season, they still can if Tatum develops quickly. #silver-lining

their wing rotation gon be brutal - Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Semi/Morris bro. Insanely physical and skilled

We only have 6'4 Winslow and 150lbs JRich :nonono:
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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#746 » by Bishop45 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:06 pm

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Mos_Heat wrote:Not so high about James Brown, he seems like a guy who does stupid chit every game. JRich like but bigger and better

Yea Mos, Tatum is the real deal here. But guys like Smart and James Brown make that Boston team very pesky. Gon be annoying

too bad Hayward is done for the season they could have seriously challenged the Cavs this season, they still can if Tatum develops quickly. #silver-lining

their wing rotation gon be brutal - Brown/Hayward/Tatum/Semi/Morris bro. Insanely physical and skilled

We only have 6'4 Winslow and 150lbs JRich :nonono:


Yea' we need wings badly, I'd throw our psuedo-wings (Rich/McGruder) in the fire for an actual one but it seems that fans want Winslow in the fire too. Almost every projected playoff team has a better wing rotation than us, in the era of small ball that's crucial
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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#747 » by Bishop45 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:24 pm

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Phinsoverpats wrote:Didn't get a chance to watch the game but from everyone post we miss willie reed as the back up to whiteside


Reed was kind of a poor man's Whiteside that they could use whenever he was out for a game. Not as good as Whiteside, but could at least fill the role. This year, there's no poor man's Whiteside, just billionaire man's McBob and poor man's Tristan Thompson


Thompson was inserted into the starting lineup on March 18 against Atlanta as Varejao continued to recover from a fractured wrist. He recorded seven points and six rebounds. The turning point of his season came in the following game against New Jersey, when he posted a 27-point, 12-rebound performance in a 105-100 road win. After Varejao was ruled out indefinitely, head coach Byron Scott decided to start Thompson at center for the remainder of the regular season.[24] Thompson didn't disappoint, upping his averages to 9.3 points, 7.5 rebounds and just under one block per game as a starter.


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Chalm Down wrote:
Reed was kind of a poor man's Whiteside that they could use whenever he was out for a game. Not as good as Whiteside, but could at least fill the role. This year, there's no poor man's Whiteside, just billionaire man's McBob and poor man's Tristan Thompson


Couldn't see the game, how did Bam and KO do? Is KO still making dumb TO's?


I didn't watch the whole game, but Bam had some nice dunks but not too much outside of that. Olynyk had a nice game and helped lead the comeback, but he had four turnovers. He could use more time to get used to his teammates, but those turnovers are really piling up.


KO, J Rich and JJ all averaging 3 TOs but Winslow shouldn't look at the ball
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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#748 » by HeatFanLifer » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:30 pm

Bishop45 wrote:KO, J Rich and JJ all averaging 3 TOs but Winslow shouldn't look at the ball


I think KO averaging such a high TO ratio is unacceptable and probably why he had only 5 mins in the game against the Spurs. 2 quick TO's and Spo took him out.

As for JRich, JJ, and Winslow turning the ball over, none of them are natural pgs so I think it's ok if they turn the ball over a little more than normal while playing the point position. Growing pains.

The difference between JJ and JRich compared to Winslow though is Winslow is not providing much to help the team win whereas JJ and JRich at least provide hope. Maybe that changed with the Celtics game, I didn't watch it. But if the Heat are down by 10, I don't think anyone here says to themself "oh good Winslow is coming in, let's get ready for a comeback." JJ and JRich have their own faults too, but I think they provide more of a chance for a Heat win than Winslow. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#749 » by IggieCC » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:09 pm

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Bishop45 wrote:KO, J Rich and JJ all averaging 3 TOs but Winslow shouldn't look at the ball


I think KO averaging such a high TO ratio is unacceptable and probably why he had only 5 mins in the game against the Spurs. 2 quick TO's and Spo took him out.

As for JRich, JJ, and Winslow turning the ball over, none of them are natural pgs so I think it's ok if they turn the ball over a little more than normal while playing the point position. Growing pains.

The difference between JJ and JRich compared to Winslow though is Winslow is not providing much to help the team win whereas JJ and JRich at least provide hope. Maybe that changed with the Celtics game, I didn't watch it. But if the Heat are down by 10, I don't think anyone here says to themself "oh good Winslow is coming in, let's get ready for a comeback." JJ and JRich have their own faults too, but I think they provide more of a chance for a Heat win than Winslow. Hopefully I'm wrong.

FWIW Frank Kaminsky is averaging 1.2 TO in 29 mins. KO should be in the low 1 TO or less.
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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#750 » by contract » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:26 pm

Bishop45 wrote:KO, J Rich and JJ all averaging 3 TOs but Winslow shouldn't look at the ball

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If Winslow tried posting that smilie, it would rim out.
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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#751 » by Bishop45 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:34 pm

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Bishop45 wrote:KO, J Rich and JJ all averaging 3 TOs but Winslow shouldn't look at the ball

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If Winslow tried posting that smilie, it would rim out.


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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#752 » by KingDavid » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:47 pm

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Bishop45 wrote:KO, J Rich and JJ all averaging 3 TOs but Winslow shouldn't look at the ball

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If Winslow tried posting that smilie, it would rim out.

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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#753 » by KingDavid » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:53 pm

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IggieCC wrote:That was probably his best game of the season? Too bad that it didn't result in a W. The fact remains that his performance rarely matters to the outcome i.e. not really a difference maker. He really needs to get offensive game going so that he can stay on the court for 30+ mins (he was used for defense only down the stretch) and make more overall impact on the game. 15 points should be his goal each game and that'll get him to stay on the court longer and be a positive force. Come on Bish


I don't know why, the onus to score should be on the guys getting paid all the money. Not sure why we put greater expectations on Winslow than them, but I understand its easier and perhaps more fun for a few of you to just single him out.

He absolutely makes game impacting plays out there. Right off the top of my head I remember he missed a shot, hustled after his rebound and saved the ball to Dragic for a 3. To say he's not a difference maker is a poor evaluation, something I'd expect to hear from one that doesn't really watch the games.

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But look at who we gave all that money too. I have no idea what the hell the front office has in mind for this roster. It's like a tweener. Not really elite at anything and doesn't really fit in.
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Re: Boston Celtics @ Miami Heat - Saturday, October 28, 8:00 PM 

Post#754 » by BaDaBo » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:14 am

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IggieCC wrote:When we think we are missing Hassan, it's usually something else. It's deeper BaDaBo


We miss McBob tbh

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Iggie our biggest issue atm is rebounding and paint defense. Hassan helps there a lot. With him in there I think we're 4-1 IMO. That being said a lot of other areas of our game needs a lot of work, but they're not as easy fix as just getting Hassan on the floor.

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