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Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I

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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#501 » by DayofMourning » Wed Dec 6, 2017 12:25 am

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kobewade11 wrote:
kobewade11 wrote:I sent another message asking about this waiting to see if he responds


"Prince Ali" he didn't mention which board banned him

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I remember him, but holy hell I don't remember him being THAT insightful. He was holding out on us!

The hell did he do to get banned?!


My exact response. Got damn. Lol.
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#502 » by KingDavid » Wed Dec 6, 2017 12:27 am

DayofMourning wrote:
kobewade11 wrote:
kobewade11 wrote:I sent another message asking about this waiting to see if he responds


"Prince Ali" he didn't mention which board banned him


Lol! Where was that insight when he posted here? Boy was a firestarter.

Perfect description of a heat fan. I'd say we lobby to get him back.

I must read the conversation between he, wildinger, and gom.
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#503 » by DayofMourning » Wed Dec 6, 2017 12:32 am

KingDavid wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
kobewade11 wrote:
"Prince Ali" he didn't mention which board banned him


Lol! Where was that insight when he posted here? Boy was a firestarter.

Perfect description of a heat fan. I'd say we lobby to get him back.

I must read the conversation between he, wildinger, and gom.


Don't think that's happening any time soon, KD. Boys stubborn as hell.
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#504 » by KingDavid » Wed Dec 6, 2017 12:37 am

DayofMourning wrote:
KingDavid wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
Lol! Where was that insight when he posted here? Boy was a firestarter.

Perfect description of a heat fan. I'd say we lobby to get him back.

I must read the conversation between he, wildinger, and gom.


Don't think that's happening any time soon, KD. Boys stubborn as hell.

Damn shame. I'll keep my tab open with his posts on Reddit. He has the answers to why certain things don't feel right on our team. He's like a scout or a coach or something. Very polite too. Maybe he grew up? I was banned for my childish remarks too...he must have been worse.

Who else here has been holding out on us?
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#505 » by Mos_Heat » Wed Dec 6, 2017 11:49 am

Prince Ali was a dick, tbh
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#506 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Dec 6, 2017 12:40 pm

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KingDavid wrote:There's this poster on Reddit that's a heat fan...his bball knowledge is advanced as ****. U/nhojgnos

"there are lots of those guys.... we had one named beasley too... there are also other ones available that wouldn't need max salary to do it... nick young, jamal crawford, there are a lot of guards that can get you buckets... i am not arguing that...

the reality is when i pay over $20M/year , i want a two-way player. I am not saying Kyrie isn't an all-star, i am arguing what his team value is relative to that contract.

let's face it, we don't have a star so we need one that elevates the play of others.. plain and simple, especially with the commitment in a traditional big.. we need a wizard at the pick n roll since hassan isn't fully up to par since he can't space and initiate office (starting to with elbow DHOs).

basketball is still a team game and you are naive to ignore team data. More importantly, look at the team on top, they are always top 5 offense/defense team. You are not going to ever win teh finals by ISOing kyrie.

to put it in perspective, the warriors avg 31.08 assists/game and got 42 vs magic before us.

at just 2pts for every assisted basket, that's 62 points off assists, when we scored 95 against them.

Modern basketball doesn't lean towards ISO and mediocrity vs championship team, just leads to poor future with bad draft picks.

ISOing kyrie can be snuffed out in the play offs since the thibs overload defense. I am not blind to the eye test, I just am hyper aware of the road to an nba championship with data to support what my eye sees in terms in the player kyrie, but more importantly the evolution of modern basketball.

we need a scoring wing , not a scoring combo guard. We need a guard to get whiteside going, not buckets."

Read more of his posts here. Someone should invite him. https://www.reddit.com/user/nhojgnos

I asked him, he said he used to post here but got perma banned


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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#507 » by HeatWillRise » Wed Dec 6, 2017 9:11 pm

KingDavid wrote:
kobewade11 wrote:
kobewade11 wrote:I sent another message asking about this waiting to see if he responds


"Prince Ali" he didn't mention which board banned him

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I remember him, but holy hell I don't remember him being THAT insightful. He was holding out on us!

The hell did he do to get banned?!

Yeah he didnt use to write paragraphs/essay regarding ball, interesting.
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#508 » by Dr_Heat » Wed Dec 6, 2017 9:45 pm

The prince , I remember that Kat
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#509 » by dshearn » Thu Dec 7, 2017 7:39 pm

DayofMourning wrote:
kobewade11 wrote:
kobewade11 wrote:I sent another message asking about this waiting to see if he responds


"Prince Ali" he didn't mention which board banned him


Lol! Where was that insight when he posted here? Boy was a firestarter.

He was the one that ended up on TV a few times?
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#510 » by twix2500 » Thu Dec 7, 2017 9:00 pm

To be a relatively small team the Heat can not be dead last in fastbreaks. Now it doesn't mean they need to play faster, but their is a lack of someone not snowbirding or a lead passer off of turnovers/stops.

Waiters fbpts 2.1, fbm 0.8, fbatt 1.7
Dragic fbpts 3.1, fbm 1.4, fbatt 2.3
Johnson fbpts 0.7, fbm 0.3, fbatt 0.7Image

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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#511 » by kobewade11 » Thu Dec 7, 2017 9:31 pm

dshearn wrote:
DayofMourning wrote:
kobewade11 wrote:
"Prince Ali" he didn't mention which board banned him


Lol! Where was that insight when he posted here? Boy was a firestarter.

He was the one that ended up on TV a few times?

:lol: someone here was on tv?
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#512 » by twix2500 » Fri Dec 8, 2017 2:11 am

I would of traded TJ for Okafor.

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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#513 » by Bishop45 » Fri Dec 8, 2017 2:22 am

twix2500 wrote:To be a relatively small team the Heat can not be dead last in fastbreaks. Now it doesn't mean they need to play faster, but their is a lack of someone not snowbirding or a lead passer off of turnovers/stops.

Waiters fbpts 2.1, fbm 0.8, fbatt 1.7
Dragic fbpts 3.1, fbm 1.4, fbatt 2.3
Johnson fbpts 0.7, fbm 0.3, fbatt 0.7
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Didn't have any data to back this up but I realized and said earlier this year that we've been terrible in transition. Can't have that. Aside from Dragic-Waiters being flat, the other guys just don't attack as often... I partially blame this on how small we've been going but haven't looked at the collective rebounding stats from last year
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#514 » by Flash4thewin » Sat Dec 9, 2017 4:09 pm

Ideally what can we do to get better? Any possible trade targets out there?
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#515 » by LordRiley » Sat Dec 9, 2017 4:32 pm

Looking at how the East is shaking out, i think we miss out on the playoffs. This team just isn't good. Time to start selling, rather then buying.
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#516 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Dec 9, 2017 4:52 pm

I think that Dragic's time on this team should be coming to an end. At 31 he needs to be on a legit playoff team. If we can get someone like Mudiay for him or recoup some draft assets that would be a solid move.
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#517 » by puppa bear » Sat Dec 9, 2017 5:04 pm

LordRiley wrote:Looking at how the East is shaking out, i think we miss out on the playoffs. This team just isn't good. Time to start selling, rather then buying.

MettaWorldPanda wrote:I think that Dragic's time on this team should be coming to an end. At 31 he needs to be on a legit playoff team. If we can get someone like Mudiay for him or recoup some draft assets that would be a solid move.

As much as I've been pro tank, I don't honk we're at an actual panic station, fire sale, fml type place yet. New Years is the time to have a real hard look, and between now and then these are the pass/fail points for me:
Celtics game - coming into it .500 or better
Xmas - within 1-game of .500
New Years - above .500

If we can't meet any of those markers then we are in a crap position, have likely just lost tie-beakers with other average teams, and have lost ground on the teams currently in that 7/8/9 race.
If we make only the last one, then there's a chance, and we may be turning a corner.
If we make some of he early, but not the last, then we're just too inconsistent to win enough to get to the PO.
If we smash all those goalposts then we're on our way to competing for the POs.

From here my A-grade cut-off at New Years is 5 games above .500, sitting at 21-16. I would have had that more like 27-10 preseason, but goalposts change :/
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#518 » by RJM » Sat Dec 9, 2017 9:17 pm

Miami's not tanking. The HEAT will be a mediocre team that gets into the playoffs next Spring.
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#519 » by radikalBaller » Sat Dec 9, 2017 9:42 pm

This team needs to hire a potent offensive coach barely miss the PO this year to pay their due to Phoenix, trade the vets for some additional late 1rst rounders, and probably tank next year to draft a player with high level shot creating ability + a couple of complementary talents...

Just keep Jrich, Bam, Winslow, Williams and prob Olynyk to reach cap floor
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Re: Official HEAT 2017-18 Regular Season Thread - Vol. I 

Post#520 » by radikalBaller » Sat Dec 9, 2017 9:46 pm

Les draft in 2019 RJ barret, Zion Williamson, and Anfernee Simmons

Simmons
Jrich
Barret
Williamson
Bam

Anyone ?

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