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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1961 » by Mos_Heat » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:20 pm

Then why you want Sacto's pick, which almost certainly will go to Boston
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Post#1962 » by twix2500 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:24 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:Then why you want Sacto's pick, which almost certainly will go to Boston
How does their first rounder look? When i did the trade machine it didn't go in detail about the pick.

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Post#1963 » by BBallFreak » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:27 pm

twix2500 wrote:I want a draft pick. Fultz is just a cap filler. Also I said I needed to wait to have some kind of concrete diagnosis and understanding of his injury before I can consider a deal involving Fultz. With Fultz pretty much done for the season even if he returns to the bench, all I see him as a cap filler. Philly needs now ready role players and the only thing they have worth trading for is their draft pick. Unlike what BB is talking about, Ellington and McGruder bird rights is a big plus for them. They can resign Butler, McGruder and Ellington without restraints of the cap. Ellington and McGruder is better than any role player they currently have outside of Reddick.

Yesterday game was perfect example how 76ers could of used a player like McGruder. He could of taken Kyrie and saved Butler energy for offense down the stretch.

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To be quite honest, it doesn't matter what you see him as. They don't see him like that, nor should they. They'd be fools to trade him now, anyway, as his value is at it's lowest. But even at it's lowest, they don't have to include a first to dump him. That's preposterous.
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1964 » by Mos_Heat » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:30 pm

twix2500 wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:Then why you want Sacto's pick, which almost certainly will go to Boston
How does their first rounder look? When i did the trade machine it didn't go in detail about the pick.

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They own all their picks. This year it will be in 22-26 range
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1965 » by twix2500 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:50 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
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Mos_Heat wrote:Then why you want Sacto's pick, which almost certainly will go to Boston
How does their first rounder look? When i did the trade machine it didn't go in detail about the pick.

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They own all their picks. This year it will be in 22-26 range


Ok good that is where I thought. Yeah 22 thru 26 is worth McGruder and Ellington and taking on dead salary in Fultz.

BB, I have no idea how much emotional attachment they have in Fultz. He is what he is, if they want to eat his salary until he can prove his value to be more than that is a decision they will have to make. They see him in practice so they have an outlook on what Fultz potential may be better than anyone. But for an outside team to take a player who been horrible with an injury that does not have a clear cut solution on a successful fix, would be a HUGE gamble. Also you got to consider Fultz is not getting better than he was in the summer league before dealing with this, he is likely falling behind.

And Im a person who was very high on Fultz in the draft. But this injury has really spoiled his potential IMO.
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1966 » by BBallFreak » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:14 pm

twix2500 wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:
twix2500 wrote:How does their first rounder look? When i did the trade machine it didn't go in detail about the pick.

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They own all their picks. This year it will be in 22-26 range


Ok good that is where I thought. Yeah 22 thru 26 is worth McGruder and Ellington and taking on dead salary in Fultz.

BB, I have no idea how much emotional attachment they have in Fultz. He is what he is, if they want to eat his salary until he can prove his value to be more than that is a decision they will have to make. They see him in practice so they have an outlook on what Fultz potential may be better than anyone. But for an outside team to take a player who been horrible with an injury that does not have a clear cut solution on a successful fix, would be a HUGE gamble. Also you got to consider Fultz is not getting better than he was in the summer league before dealing with this, he is likely falling behind.

And Im a person who was very high on Fultz in the draft. But this injury has really spoiled his potential IMO.

I'm going to put this to you as nicely and succinctly as possible. Bring it to the Trade Board. I've explained myself. If you don't believe me, let everyone else decide for themselves. Your deal is awful for them...
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Post#1967 » by twix2500 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:18 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:They own all their picks. This year it will be in 22-26 range


Ok good that is where I thought. Yeah 22 thru 26 is worth McGruder and Ellington and taking on dead salary in Fultz.

BB, I have no idea how much emotional attachment they have in Fultz. He is what he is, if they want to eat his salary until he can prove his value to be more than that is a decision they will have to make. They see him in practice so they have an outlook on what Fultz potential may be better than anyone. But for an outside team to take a player who been horrible with an injury that does not have a clear cut solution on a successful fix, would be a HUGE gamble. Also you got to consider Fultz is not getting better than he was in the summer league before dealing with this, he is likely falling behind.

And Im a person who was very high on Fultz in the draft. But this injury has really spoiled his potential IMO.

I'm going to put this to you as nicely and succinctly as possible. Bring it to the Trade Board. I've explained myself. If you don't believe me, let everyone else decide for themselves. Your deal is awful for them...


Why is the trade board something of validation? BB don't be nice be yourself. It's just filled with people who feel their player on their favorite team has more value than other team players. And I don't care for satisfying them.

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Post#1968 » by BBallFreak » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:22 pm

twix2500 wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
Ok good that is where I thought. Yeah 22 thru 26 is worth McGruder and Ellington and taking on dead salary in Fultz.

BB, I have no idea how much emotional attachment they have in Fultz. He is what he is, if they want to eat his salary until he can prove his value to be more than that is a decision they will have to make. They see him in practice so they have an outlook on what Fultz potential may be better than anyone. But for an outside team to take a player who been horrible with an injury that does not have a clear cut solution on a successful fix, would be a HUGE gamble. Also you got to consider Fultz is not getting better than he was in the summer league before dealing with this, he is likely falling behind.

And Im a person who was very high on Fultz in the draft. But this injury has really spoiled his potential IMO.

I'm going to put this to you as nicely and succinctly as possible. Bring it to the Trade Board. I've explained myself. If you don't believe me, let everyone else decide for themselves. Your deal is awful for them...


Why is the trade board something of validation? BB don't be nice be yourself. It's just filled with people who feel their player on their favorite team has more value than other team players. And I don't care for satisfying them.

I'm not going to be myself, because being myself might get me suspended right now. Your trade is awful. I'm confident enough to take it TnT board myself and prove it to you. It's ridiculous to assume that the only people who will post about it are Philly fans. Trust me, you will get trashed for this.
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Re: Miami Heat 2018-2019 Regular Season Thread 

Post#1969 » by twix2500 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:34 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:I'm going to put this to you as nicely and succinctly as possible. Bring it to the Trade Board. I've explained myself. If you don't believe me, let everyone else decide for themselves. Your deal is awful for them...


Why is the trade board something of validation? BB don't be nice be yourself. It's just filled with people who feel their player on their favorite team has more value than other team players. And I don't care for satisfying them.

I'm not going to be myself, because being myself might get me suspended right now. Your trade is awful. I'm confident enough to take it TnT board myself and prove it to you. It's ridiculous to assume that the only people who will post about it are Philly fans. Trust me, you will get trashed for this.


:lol: I dont care about them. It doesnt do anything for me if everyone likes my offer. I got trashed for telling the Wolves fans that Saric and Covington wasnt gonna make a big impact, as they did in Philly. I told them Teague is not the distributor like Simmons that Saric and Covington could feed off of. They told me I was wrong. I see they dont come around here no more, now they screaming its the coach fault and they screaming about how terrible Teague is. One thing about me, I dont comment looking for someone to praise my thoughts. I come here for discussion, I rather my opinion to be different than the majority, because that provokes discussion.

That trade is where I value Fultz. I believe if Philly did this deal, they would get a lot of hate early, and then when playoffs come and they see how well Ellington and McGruder fits, people will quickly forget about Fultz especially that Fultz will likely not be seen on the court until at least next season.
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Post#1970 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:02 pm

Fultz is as valuable as a player worth about $7,500,000 a year for the next 3 years right now.
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Post#1971 » by IggieCC » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:12 pm

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