Miami Heat @ Philadelphia Sixers - 11/23/19 Saturday - 7:30pm

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[Maroko]

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lol @ people saying Bam should shoot that kind of shot, he should not ! Instead our shooters need to use more Bam to free themselves by using Bam as setting a screen then they will have free look since Embiid is so far, this is the right play.
I don't want and i don't expect Bam hitting the 3. You are playing the defense strategy by saying Bam should shoot lol come on...

Great job by trying to embarass Bam instead of supporting him !

[Kobewade11]

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lol @ people saying Bam should shoot that kind of shot, he should not ! Instead our shooters need to use more Bam to free themselves by using Bam as setting a screen then they will have free look since Embiid is so far, this is the right play.
I don't want and i don't expect Bam hitting the 3. You are playing the defense strategy by saying Bam should shoot lol come on...

Great job by trying to embarass Bam instead of supporting him !

Im the last fan here thats going to try to embarass any of these players. I genuinely support them all and want to see them be the best they can be, I certainly know thats not true of all posters here. That said, it is a damning clip. Even if you dont shoot, put the ball on the floor and attack the defender. They gave him the Rondo defense.

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lol @ people saying Bam should shoot that kind of shot, he should not ! Instead our shooters need to use more Bam to free themselves by using Bam as setting a screen then they will have free look since Embiid is so far, this is the right play.
I don't want and i don't expect Bam hitting the 3. You are playing the defense strategy by saying Bam should shoot lol come on...

Great job by trying to embarass Bam instead of supporting him !

Im the last fan here thats going to try to embarass any of these players. I genuinely support them all and want to see them be the best they can be, I certainly know thats not true of all posters here. That said, it is a damning clip. Even if you dont shoot, put the ball on the floor and attack the defender. They gave him the Rondo defense.

No one would tell Bam to shoot if we didn't think he's capable. Otherwise we would just expect this like he was Joel Anthony. Most of us feel he has the ability to expand his game. He's has teased it.

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[Maroko]

Yes he is going to shoot that 3 constantly and he will be feared lol. Can't wait to be in the playoffs with the defense giving him that opportunity to shot that 3 in every possession : "but but i wanted him to expand his game f*cking scrub aka joel anthony..."

[twix2500]

Yes he is going to shoot that 3 constantly and he will be feared lol. Can't wait to be in the playoffs with the defense giving him that opportunity to shot that 3 in every possession : "but but i wanted him to expand his game f*cking scrub aka joel anthony..."

Is he going to shoot it or make it consistantly? I do not get what you are smurking at? But hey lets expect everyone else to be Reggie Miller and be an elite super star off screens. Lets expect role players to beat tightly defended by big time defenders and expect nothing from your main guy not being defended.

[KingDavid]

Yes he is going to shoot that 3 constantly and he will be feared lol. Can't wait to be in the playoffs with the defense giving him that opportunity to shot that 3 in every possession : "but but i wanted him to expand his game f*cking scrub aka joel anthony..."

It isn't just shooting threes though. Embiid was DEEEEEEEP in the paint. Bam has to put the ball on the floor and attack that space or shoot or do something to engage Embiid so he can't just park in the lane and deny all of our cuts. Apparently this has happened in every loss. Bam is capable of scoring more but he isn't trying to. He's got to punish defenses for disrespecting his game like Embiid did.

[Maroko]

Yes he is going to shoot that 3 constantly and he will be feared lol. Can't wait to be in the playoffs with the defense giving him that opportunity to shot that 3 in every possession : "but but i wanted him to expand his game f*cking scrub aka joel anthony..."

It isn't just shooting threes though. Embiid was DEEEEEEEP in the paint. Bam has to put the ball on the floor and attack that space or shoot or do something to engage Embiid so he can't just park in the lane and deny all of our cuts. Apparently this has happened in every loss. Bam is capable of scoring more but he isn't trying to. He's got to punish defenses for disrespecting his game like Embiid did.

No ! Our shooters need to use Bam so they can shoot and punish the defense with a strong screen, you have to use the best option to punish this kind of defense. Imagine if Bam doesnt make these shoots...it's too much gamble and he is not yet there with a high %.

Don't take the shoot that the defense wants you to take but the one you want to take!

Only attack Embiid when he is far from the paint not when he at 2 feet from the bucket

[oreon]

Yes he is going to shoot that 3 constantly and he will be feared lol. Can't wait to be in the playoffs with the defense giving him that opportunity to shot that 3 in every possession : "but but i wanted him to expand his game f*cking scrub aka joel anthony..."

It isn't just shooting threes though. Embiid was DEEEEEEEP in the paint. Bam has to put the ball on the floor and attack that space or shoot or do something to engage Embiid so he can't just park in the lane and deny all of our cuts. Apparently this has happened in every loss. Bam is capable of scoring more but he isn't trying to. He's got to punish defenses for disrespecting his game like Embiid did.

No ! Our shooters need to use Bam so they can shoot and punish the defense with a strong screen, you have to use the best option to punish this kind of defense. Imagine if Bam doesnt make these shoots...it's too much gamble and he is not yet there with a high %.

Don't take the shoot that the defense wants you to take but the one you want to take!

Only attack Embiid when he is far from the paint not when he at 2 feet from the bucket

Bam came into the league pretty raw skill wise. He has improved tremendously but offensively he's still lacking. If he can make open 3 that opens up a lot for the team. He needs to start taking regular mid range jumpers if he open. Then season by season extend his range. Taking them in practice is one thing but he won't get better if he doesn't take them in actual games.

[dean456]

In situations like this game I dont mind having Bam taking a one dribble pull up shot from the mid range if Embiid is going to sag off him like he is. Even if he misses everyone of them I want to see Bam get more comfortable shooting in a game and recognizing when he should get his offense.

[fouled out boy]

Didn't Bam took Horford of the dribble like 2 times? If he is hesitant to shoot, than he need to drive more. Pretty high possibility it will lead to FTs and more importantly to Embiid's and Horford's fouls. Wish Bam worked on handles with Wade.

[MHeat0279]

Bam developing a mid range jumper will help our offense a lot, just like Haslem managed to survive in this league with tenacious defense and a pretty decent mid range jumper. There is a pattern here, the Heat struggle against teams with tall players defending the rim. Its pretty obvious we need another all star, we will get there when we have the money to spend. As we are constructed now and with all the rookies i predict a second round exit in the playoffs.

[AirP.]

Miami just couldn't hit shots and it wasn't because of Philly's length(Miami missed a lot of open shots), I think it had way more to do with the atmosphere (they were hyped up on Butler's return) which the younger shooters just looked shook which just made the rest of the team spiral down(since Miami depends on them so much). Philly gave Miami lots of open looks and I'd expect once we get past half way in the season these younger players won't get as shook as they were in Philly. This is why they say potential gets coaches fired and I feel that Riley and Spo understood this and that's a reason Spo got a 4 year extension this offseason. That being said, if this team could add a 3rd good vet scorer to Butler and Dragic the younger players wouldn't have to be counted on nearly as much. Also, Herro was fine and with that, maybe short term and long term maybe it's time to move Herro above Nunn(who has been up and down many times this year) in the rotation.

Also, as we can see(as previously stated by another), the bigs were dropping off their man, taking the lane away for drives and dives for passes and daring Miami to hit the 3s which normally Miami capitalizes off of.

Let's look at the 7 shots 2 of the rookies took from 3. All of these shots were high percentage shots.

Nunn 1

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Nunn 2

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Robinson 1

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Robinson 2

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Robinson 3

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Robinson 4

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Robinson 5

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Leonard has been in the league for a while but he missed 2 wide open shots, he might not make both but you'd expect him to hit one of those.
Leonard 1

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Leonard 2

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[MHeat0279]

Miami just couldn't hit shots and it wasn't because of Philly's length(Miami missed a lot of open shots), I think it had way more to do with the atmosphere (they were hyped up on Butler's return) which the younger shooters just looked shook which just made the rest of the team spiral down(since Miami depends on them so much). Philly gave Miami lots of open looks and I'd expect once we get past half way in the season these younger players won't get as shook as they were in Philly. This is why they say potential gets coaches fired and I feel that Riley and Spo understood this and that's a reason Spo got a 4 year extension this offseason. That being said, if this team could add a 3rd good vet scorer to Butler and Dragic the younger players wouldn't have to be counted on nearly as much. Also, Herro was fine and with that, maybe short term and long term maybe it's time to move Herro above Nunn(who has been up and down many times this year) in the rotation.

Also, as we can see(as previously stated by another), the bigs were dropping off their man, taking the lane away for drives and dives for passes and daring Miami to hit the 3s which normally Miami capitalizes off of.

Let's look at the 7 shots 2 of the rookies took from 3. All of these shots were high percentage shots.

Nunn 1

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Nunn 2

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Robinson 1

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Robinson 2

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Robinson 3

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Robinson 4

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Robinson 5

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Leonard has been in the league for a while but he missed 2 wide open shots, he might not make both but you'd expect him to hit one of those.
Leonard 1

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Leonard 2

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Interesting read, thank you for the input
But i think we need to find ways to win games where our shots are not falling. We definitely struggle to guard talented big men in the post.

[AirP.]

Interesting read, thank you for the input
But i think we need to find ways to win games where our shots are not falling. We definitely struggle to guard talented big men in the post.

There were a LOT of open shots that Miami just missed, had nothing to do with Philly's length.

Sure this team needs to find different ways to score but this roster doesn't have that ability although Waiters will provide some of that ability. Winslow helps on the defensive end(which is a big plus) but on offense if he's playing PG, he's taking the ball out of the best player's hands and removes 1 less good shooter on the court which to me, lessens the offense in the half court by a considerable amount. If the defense can create some more fast breaks that minimizes the half court decline.

In the playoffs if Winslow, Nunn, Butler, Bam and a stretch 5 are on the court, I put my best defender on Butler, pack the lane if Winslow or Bam have the ball and just switch to try to cover the 2 3pt shooters. Basically make J.Butler beat you by himself with a packed lane. Hopefully this offseason Butler works on his 3pt shot in the offseason, he showed promise with his 3pt shot in Chicago (shooting 38-39%) his 2nd season and early in his 3rd season before having turf toe after 9 games and playing with injuries most of the season(then he worked on his overall game and became a scorer the next season).

If this team could find a way to add K.Love for relatively cheap, he'd really help make this offense way more consistent and be able to help grab more rebounds and with that, give Miami a legit chance to come out of the East for the next 3-4 years. A consolidation trade could be just want this team needs, helps make the rotation stronger and fixes a problem with too many players vs minutes.

[MHeat0279]

Interesting read, thank you for the input
But i think we need to find ways to win games where our shots are not falling. We definitely struggle to guard talented big men in the post.

There were a LOT of open shots that Miami just missed, had nothing to do with Philly's length.

Sure this team needs to find different ways to score but this roster doesn't have that ability although Waiters will provide some of that ability. Winslow helps on the defensive end(which is a big plus) but on offense if he's playing PG, he's taking the ball out of the best player's hands and removes 1 less good shooter on the court which to me, lessens the offense in the half court by a considerable amount. If the defense can create some more fast breaks that minimizes the half court decline.

In the playoffs if Winslow, Nunn, Butler, Bam and a stretch 5 are on the court, I put my best defender on Butler, pack the lane if Winslow or Bam have the ball and just switch to try to cover the 2 3pt shooters. Basically make J.Butler beat you by himself with a packed lane. Hopefully this offseason Butler works on his 3pt shot in the offseason, he showed promise with his 3pt shot in Chicago (shooting 38-39%) his 2nd season and early in his 3rd season before having turf toe after 9 games and playing with injuries most of the season(then he worked on his overall game and became a scorer the next season).

If this team could find a way to add K.Love for relatively cheap, he'd really help make this offense way more consistent and be able to help grab more rebounds and with that, give Miami a legit chance to come out of the East for the next 3-4 years. A consolidation trade could be just want this team needs, helps make the rotation stronger and fixes a problem with too many players vs minutes.

Fair enough, lets see how they develop.