the play-in is a dumb format

al bondiga · Post #1 » by **al bondiga** » Mon May 17, 2021 7:22 pm

i guess execs need money fast because this obviously devaluates the NBA

Post #2 » by **IggieCC** » Mon May 17, 2021 8:34 pm

i agree but a good break for banged up 1-6 seeds esp. in a mess of a szn like this Al

Post #3 » by **IggieCC** » Mon May 17, 2021 8:40 pm

West is looking kind of stupid. Lakers are decisively sitting at 7th seed, and GS just beat Grizzlies pretty convincingly in an epic battle for the 8th seed. That should have been it but yeah NBA has to milk it one more time and it'll most likely be the same match up for the 8th seed all over again.

In the East, Wizards made a great run to make it to the 8th seed. Their best player hurt his hammy in the process. Now they have to win one more game to get in or lose two games and kicked out.

I think I'll like the play-in more when we're bad enough to be 9-10th seed due to injuries AL

eddieheatfan · Post #4 » by **eddieheatfan** » Mon May 17, 2021 8:59 pm

yeah i agree nothing else to add here

RexBoyWonder · Post #5 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Tue May 18, 2021 11:04 am

it's actually proved to be a great idea.

1. It's fair. If you don't secure a top 6 spot, you don't "deserve" anything. You earned the right to play and earn those last crappy playoffs spot at 7 and 8.

2. It makes a lot more teams invested in the season, for much longer. Even for us, we cared about those Celtics games because we wanted that 6 seed secured. More meaningful games is a good thing.

3. Wizards for example got destroyed by covid and injuries, but the play in gave them a reason to keep pushing and that resulted in some great games and performances. Without the play in they would've been tanking for months.

4. Curry Vs Lebron for the right to be in the playoffs is going to be epic, what's not to like.

Play-in games are here to stay, the impact is even better then the NBA hoped for. You can bet we'll see them become a regular thing.

AirP. · Post #6 » by **AirP.** » Tue May 18, 2021 1:54 pm

I like the play in, could care less about the NBA making even more money because of it. There's still incentive for making 7&8 but it also gives more teams a sliver of hope which should help out the league's competitiveness during the whole season.

1. With 4 more of the bad teams having a chance to make the playoffs late, there's less tanking.
2. Less tanking means more quality later regular season games.
3. It's the 7 and 8 seed who usually don't make much noise in the playoffs, those teams still have an advantage by only have to win 1 game out of 2 to stay in the playoffs.
4. A team that does bad early on can still get it together and still have a decent to making the playoffs, especially if they were better then a fringe playoff team to begin with
5. More teams willing to make win now trades during the season even if the win now is just making the playoffs.
6. It means more to a team being a top 6 seed or higher by getting more rest before the playoffs.

Also, with 16 teams making the playoffs, 4 more having an opportunity to get an 8th spot and a few others who tried but didn't make the play ins, the NBA could get more creative with the lottery and just give everyone in the lottery the same chance for any pick and then the rest in the playoffs having their normal draft picks. I really hate tanking but understand how each franchise needs a way to acquire talent, especially if they're not in a favorable location but in a professional league, they need to get rid of as many games being thrown as possible.

With all that said, I'm not seeing anything a midseason tourney would bring other then more money for the NBA. Either the mid season tourney would mean nothing to the players since it's not the playoffs to crown a season champion or it could mean something which would actually devalue the end of the season championship. You can't keep just handing out trophies and not expect something to be devalued.

3ballbomber · Post #7 » by **3ballbomber** » Wed May 19, 2021 9:42 am

eddieheatfan wrote:yeah i agree nothing else to add here

al bondiga · Post #8 » by **al bondiga** » Thu May 20, 2021 3:59 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:it's actually proved to be a great idea.

1. It's fair. If you don't secure a top 6 spot, you don't "deserve" anything. You earned the right to play and earn those last crappy playoffs spot at 7 and 8.

2. It makes a lot more teams invested in the season, for much longer. Even for us, we cared about those Celtics games because we wanted that 6 seed secured. More meaningful games is a good thing.

3. Wizards for example got destroyed by covid and injuries, but the play in gave them a reason to keep pushing and that resulted in some great games and performances. Without the play in they would've been tanking for months.

4. Curry Vs Lebron for the right to be in the playoffs is going to be epic, what's not to like.

Play-in games are here to stay, the impact is even better then the NBA hoped for. You can bet we'll see them become a regular thing.

no way! play-in is only a constant proof of this pandemic ...which we always should be ashamed of as human beings
plus only takes away from the finished product, that is an NBA championship... it is a diluted product... Let's not fall victim to this money making scheme, which owners and the n b a executives and even some players feel they need after this past year

al bondiga · Post #9 » by **al bondiga** » Thu May 20, 2021 4:02 pm

AirP. wrote:I like the play in, could care less about the NBA making even more money because of it. There's still incentive for making 7&8 but it also gives more teams a sliver of hope which should help out the league's competitiveness during the whole season.

1. With 4 more of the bad teams having a chance to make the playoffs late, there's less tanking.
2. Less tanking means more quality later regular season games.
3. It's the 7 and 8 seed who usually don't make much noise in the playoffs, those teams still have an advantage by only have to win 1 game out of 2 to stay in the playoffs.
4. A team that does bad early on can still get it together and still have a decent to making the playoffs, especially if they were better then a fringe playoff team to begin with
5. More teams willing to make win now trades during the season even if the win now is just making the playoffs.
6. It means more to a team being a top 6 seed or higher by getting more rest before the playoffs.

Also, with 16 teams making the playoffs, 4 more having an opportunity to get an 8th spot and a few others who tried but didn't make the play ins, the NBA could get more creative with the lottery and just give everyone in the lottery the same chance for any pick and then the rest in the playoffs having their normal draft picks. I really hate tanking but understand how each franchise needs a way to acquire talent, especially if they're not in a favorable location but in a professional league, they need to get rid of as many games being thrown as possible.

With all that said, I'm not seeing anything a midseason tourney would bring other then more money for the NBA. Either the mid season tourney would mean nothing to the players since it's not the playoffs to crown a season champion or it could mean something which would actually devalue the end of the season championship. You can't keep just handing out trophies and not expect something to be devalued.

jeje... yes you like it now but let's see what happens if they make it a continuous format

contract · Post #10 » by **contract** » Thu May 20, 2021 5:11 pm

al bondiga wrote::banghead: i guess execs need money fast because this obviously devaluates the NBA

Just wait until some well below .500 10th seed manages to get hot at the right time and ends up eliminating the top seed and a superstar from a huge market in the 1st round. Then it will be fun.

AirP. · Post #11 » by **AirP.** » Thu May 20, 2021 11:31 pm

al bondiga wrote:
AirP. wrote:I like the play in, could care less about the NBA making even more money because of it. There's still incentive for making 7&8 but it also gives more teams a sliver of hope which should help out the league's competitiveness during the whole season.

1. With 4 more of the bad teams having a chance to make the playoffs late, there's less tanking.
2. Less tanking means more quality later regular season games.
3. It's the 7 and 8 seed who usually don't make much noise in the playoffs, those teams still have an advantage by only have to win 1 game out of 2 to stay in the playoffs.
4. A team that does bad early on can still get it together and still have a decent to making the playoffs, especially if they were better then a fringe playoff team to begin with
5. More teams willing to make win now trades during the season even if the win now is just making the playoffs.
6. It means more to a team being a top 6 seed or higher by getting more rest before the playoffs.

Also, with 16 teams making the playoffs, 4 more having an opportunity to get an 8th spot and a few others who tried but didn't make the play ins, the NBA could get more creative with the lottery and just give everyone in the lottery the same chance for any pick and then the rest in the playoffs having their normal draft picks. I really hate tanking but understand how each franchise needs a way to acquire talent, especially if they're not in a favorable location but in a professional league, they need to get rid of as many games being thrown as possible.

With all that said, I'm not seeing anything a midseason tourney would bring other then more money for the NBA. Either the mid season tourney would mean nothing to the players since it's not the playoffs to crown a season champion or it could mean something which would actually devalue the end of the season championship. You can't keep just handing out trophies and not expect something to be devalued.
jeje... yes you like it now but let's see what happens if they make it a continuous format

I will continue to like it as it keeps less teams from tanking regular season games.