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MHeat0279 wrote:RexBoyWonder wrote:If Bam is your 3rd/4th option - you're in great shape.
If you're trying to make him your first/second option - his limitations and passiveness will drive you crazy.
On point, he is just not a second option in a contending team, he does not have the tools to be one. He is also not this defensive juggernaut people make him out to be, even if he camped down in the paint all night, he is no Zo
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
He’d be a better rip protector if he camped the paint all game. Thank god he’s not that limited and can do everything defensively.
Smart literally just won DPOY and wasn’t even the best defender on his team lol
Marcus Smart is a dog on defense, who is better than him in the cerltics according to you ?
Robert Williams without a doubt, Celtics fans will agree on this.
Players are shooting 55% from the field when defended by smart in the playoffs lol
greg4012 wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:RexBoyWonder wrote:If Bam is your 3rd/4th option - you're in great shape.
If you're trying to make him your first/second option - his limitations and passiveness will drive you crazy.
On point, he is just not a second option in a contending team, he does not have the tools to be one. He is also not this defensive juggernaut people make him out to be, even if he camped down in the paint all night, he is no Zo
In your (flawed) opinion
MHeat0279 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:
Marcus Smart is a dog on defense, who is better than him in the cerltics according to you ?
Robert Williams without a doubt, Celtics fans will agree on this.
Players are shooting 55% from the field when defended by smart in the playoffs lol
You know DPY usually favors big men who protect the paint? A guard in the perimeter winninig the award should tell you something, like you said previously its not all about stats but the impact in the game. I was reading a little bit and he is the first guard to win the award since Payton won it in 1996, so basically he is the best perimeter defender in the game right now, so i would say yes he is better than Robert Williams and deserves the award.
greg4012 wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Robert Williams without a doubt, Celtics fans will agree on this.
Players are shooting 55% from the field when defended by smart in the playoffs lol
You know DPY usually favors big men who protect the paint? A guard in the perimeter winninig the award should tell you something, like you said previously its not all about stats but the impact in the game. I was reading a little bit and he is the first guard to win the award since Payton won it in 1996, so basically he is the best perimeter defender in the game right now, so i would say yes he is better than Robert Williams and deserves the award.
Media narrative
MHeat0279 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:
Marcus Smart is a dog on defense, who is better than him in the cerltics according to you ?
Robert Williams without a doubt, Celtics fans will agree on this.
Players are shooting 55% from the field when defended by smart in the playoffs lol
You know DPY usually favors big men who protect the paint? A guard in the perimeter winninig the award should tell you something, like you said previously its not all about stats but the impact in the game. I was reading a little bit and he is the first guard to win the award since Payton won it in 1996, so basically he is the best perimeter defender in the game right now, so i would say yes he is better than Robert Williams and deserves the award.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Robert Williams without a doubt, Celtics fans will agree on this.
Players are shooting 55% from the field when defended by smart in the playoffs lol
You know DPY usually favors big men who protect the paint? A guard in the perimeter winninig the award should tell you something, like you said previously its not all about stats but the impact in the game. I was reading a little bit and he is the first guard to win the award since Payton won it in 1996, so basically he is the best perimeter defender in the game right now, so i would say yes he is better than Robert Williams and deserves the award.
Yes it does usually favor bigs. Bro what? Yes he was the first since 1996 but he shouldn’t have won. Willams and Bam both have a greater impact (backed by the metrics). Smart isn’t a better perimeter defender than Bam let alone a better defender in general, also all backed by the numbers/impact.
gom wrote:benhillboy wrote:Y’all see why I defected from the Hawks to the Heat eh? Hawks fans actually think they can build around a player of Traes defensive, leadership, physical, and off ball uselessness.
Delon Wright been my favorite Hawk all season with Okongwu, I’m sure you all see why as he’s the only player cognizant of offensive ball movement and defensive ball stoppage with the effort level to affect both on and off ball. He’d look swell in a Heat uni he’s only one of the premier assist to turn and defensive plays per foul players in the association.
But yeah so enjoying Heat Ball right now. I can’t stress how much Jimmy is my all time fav. He hoops like he took off a couple years to become a professor of philosophy then off do a 3 year prison stint. His floor game and ability to spread himself so thickly is unmatched.
au contraire, mon ami. The Hawks deserve credit. They were conference finalists last season. The Heat are winning over a credible adversary with great individual talent, including Trae Young, completely wrapped up by a frankly amazing defense. What a team this is.
MHeat0279 wrote:greg4012 wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:
You know DPY usually favors big men who protect the paint? A guard in the perimeter winninig the award should tell you something, like you said previously its not all about stats but the impact in the game. I was reading a little bit and he is the first guard to win the award since Payton won it in 1996, so basically he is the best perimeter defender in the game right now, so i would say yes he is better than Robert Williams and deserves the award.
Media narrative
True, i would go with your narrative then
MHeat0279 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:
You know DPY usually favors big men who protect the paint? A guard in the perimeter winninig the award should tell you something, like you said previously its not all about stats but the impact in the game. I was reading a little bit and he is the first guard to win the award since Payton won it in 1996, so basically he is the best perimeter defender in the game right now, so i would say yes he is better than Robert Williams and deserves the award.
Yes it does usually favor bigs. Bro what? Yes he was the first since 1996 but he shouldn’t have won. Willams and Bam both have a greater impact (backed by the metrics). Smart isn’t a better perimeter defender than Bam let alone a better defender in general, also all backed by the numbers/impact.
Why didnt he wont it then? let me guess Media narrative right
I will be moving on now, but i will get back to you and give Bam props after tonight's game when he will drop more than 10 points per game in this one. Best defender in the world
MHeat0279 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:
You know DPY usually favors big men who protect the paint? A guard in the perimeter winninig the award should tell you something, like you said previously its not all about stats but the impact in the game. I was reading a little bit and he is the first guard to win the award since Payton won it in 1996, so basically he is the best perimeter defender in the game right now, so i would say yes he is better than Robert Williams and deserves the award.
Yes it does usually favor bigs. Bro what? Yes he was the first since 1996 but he shouldn’t have won. Willams and Bam both have a greater impact (backed by the metrics). Smart isn’t a better perimeter defender than Bam let alone a better defender in general, also all backed by the numbers/impact.
Why didnt he wont it then? let me guess Media narrative right
I will be moving on now, but i will get back to you and give Bam props after tonight's game when he will drop more than 10 points per game in this one. Best defender in the world
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Yes it does usually favor bigs. Bro what? Yes he was the first since 1996 but he shouldn’t have won. Willams and Bam both have a greater impact (backed by the metrics). Smart isn’t a better perimeter defender than Bam let alone a better defender in general, also all backed by the numbers/impact.
Why didnt he wont it then? let me guess Media narrative right
I will be moving on now, but i will get back to you and give Bam props after tonight's game when he will drop more than 10 points per game in this one. Best defender in the world
Tell me you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, without telling me you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about
Yes move on, it’s clear you’re clueless about this and how to measure impact on the game.
greg4012 wrote:It's obvious fans are frustrated by Bam's lack of scoring output in this series. I get it, I'm frustrated by it too. But I also have perspective regarding (1) the fact that he entered the series fresh off of being out with COVD; (2) is dealing with a thigh contusion from game 1; (3) the matchup doesn't seem to be dictating a need to turn to Bam for offense.
With all that said, turning frustration with Bam's offensive output this series into an indictment on his defense is ignorant AF
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Yes it does usually favor bigs. Bro what? Yes he was the first since 1996 but he shouldn’t have won. Willams and Bam both have a greater impact (backed by the metrics). Smart isn’t a better perimeter defender than Bam let alone a better defender in general, also all backed by the numbers/impact.
Why didnt he wont it then? let me guess Media narrative right
I will be moving on now, but i will get back to you and give Bam props after tonight's game when he will drop more than 10 points per game in this one. Best defender in the world
MHeat0279 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:
Why didnt he wont it then? let me guess Media narrative right
I will be moving on now, but i will get back to you and give Bam props after tonight's game when he will drop more than 10 points per game in this one. Best defender in the world
Tell me you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, without telling me you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about
Yes move on, it’s clear you’re clueless about this and how to measure impact on the game.
Yes, James Naismith i am moving on
what would i do without the entertainment you provide here, my world would be shattered.
MHeat0279 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:
Why didnt he wont it then? let me guess Media narrative right
I will be moving on now, but i will get back to you and give Bam props after tonight's game when he will drop more than 10 points per game in this one. Best defender in the world
Another guy that writes for the Heat, bitching about Bam no winning DPY
This is just too much.
MHeat0279 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:
Why didnt he wont it then? let me guess Media narrative right
I will be moving on now, but i will get back to you and give Bam props after tonight's game when he will drop more than 10 points per game in this one. Best defender in the world
Another guy that writes for the Heat, bitching about Bam no winning DPY
This is just too much.
greg4012 wrote:MHeat0279 wrote:
Another guy that writes for the Heat, bitching about Bam no winning DPY
This is just too much.
Do you want to refute the statistics or provide counters?
IMO Zach Lowe is the most knowledgeable NBA media guy out there. He grew up a Boston fan. He didn't even have Marcus Smart on his ballot. Do you wanna guess who he placed 1st on his ballot for DPOY? If Bam would have played more games this season, the media wouldn't have been able to default to narrative and vote for Smart. The fact that you need the DPOY award to go to Bam to gauge if Bam is an elite defender or not is mind boggling.
https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2022/04/13/zach-lowe-marcus-smart-jayson-tatum/