ECF GAME 7: Sun, 5/29 SHAMBLES vs BOS Pt2 8:30 PM

[Shewasfly]

I was smashing bam all season he had 21 shot attempts and gave 25-11-4 can’t blame bam and wouldn’t look to trade him he shows he can show up

No. We’re not going to congratulate Bam for doing what he’s supposed to be doing as a max player. Tired of y’all treating him like a short bus player when he’s a max contract taking up a large chunk of the salary cap of this team. I was defending him before but after these playoffs? Not anymore.

Imagine if the Celtics come into the series actually believing they had to guard Bam. How does that change the outlook? How does that change the way the series unfolds? Hell does Jimmy get ground down to a nub still, or with a reliable second option is he left with enough left to put us over the hump? Bam is a big reason this series was a loss and our season is over.

[fishfuego.]

lmao

No one would dare to blame the midget lover Spo and his player’s abused of midget ball. I mean we had bodies and the moron decided they didn’t exist.

If I am deciphering this thread correctly, Spo is a cuck and his wife has a midget-lover, which caused Spo to develop an infatuation with small things and, in particular, small ball. Meanwhile, Tatum is running a one-man train on Adebollo and Lowry in the locker room and will finish in Spo's wife after her midget lover is done with her.

This is some twisted Aristocrats chit.

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Yup lol

[balla345]

Lowry was actually pretty solid all season. Still think he could be of used. Just need another scorer.

[Shewasfly]

While Herro should be traded, we will have to figure out filling the void he will leave offensively. We definitely don’t get to first place in the east without his regular season output

I don’t know if it’s Herro should be traded as much as he’ll have to be. If we weren’t trying for a championship and so close to it, I think that unlike them, hero has shown enough that he is committed to improving in the off-season. It’s just we don’t have time for his development, especially on the defensive end where it seems like it’s going to be a long road before he is even average there.

He and Bam will need to be packaged to get us an all-star of the caliber of the names that people are tossing around like Damien, Mitchell, and the rest. But I think it’s clear at this point that This roster is simply not enough help for Jimmy. It’s too hard to reliably generate buckets.

I hope if we can package Bam plus Herro plus Gabe or Martin and get Embiid.

Then move Lowery plus Strus for another legitimate play maker/ballhandler on the perimeter. Someone of the caliber of lonzo Ball (but obviously not him)

I disagree Herro is good enough to centerpiece a trade for a star that wants out. If Dame, Beal or Mitchell want out Herro Robinson and our next 3 available 1st round picks should get it done based on the last few blockbuster trades in the last few years.

Maybe Dame because he’s older, but Utah would not part with Mitchell for what would essentially amount to a Herro for Mitchell swap. Absolutely not. It’s weird that so many of us hate Herro and want him gone because he sucks or whatever, but think he can net a top 15 player in the league on his own? Same with Bam. I am under no delusion that Bam can get us Embiid by himself. He’s absolutely not even in the same stratosphere. So we have to attach other pieces to make it enticing for the other team. We’re talking about players that are under long contract, not players who can up and leave next year so the other team maybe has more of an incentive.

I personally don’t think Beal puts us over the hump so wouldn’t even want that trade, especially with Beals soon gigantic contract.

[carnageta]

At least Bam went out swinging. This was the only game in the series he didn't look afraid to attack both Horford and RW3 (in game 3 Williams did not participate).

To have another shot next year, we need an evolution of Bam's offensive game, with Spo making it a focal point.

[Lilseb93]

I'm not upset about tonight. What upsets me is I don't really see a bright future. I see an old banged up team with bad contracts for a short term unrealistic shot at a title. That's what I said last summer. I don't want to be a lottery team every year, but we're just not going to beat more talented teams with this kind of roster. I'm tired of being outclassed. It's Heat culture to even be in this kind of series, but it's never enough.

[fishfuego.]

Down 2 with game running out
with all the momentum
on a fast break
Not a natural 3 point shooter
With tired legs (so even LESS chance of a jump shot going in)
And at home

YES THE HELL YOU DO.

At worse you drive it and get a kick out to your specialist. At worst.

Yep, low percentage shot from a low percentage 3 point shooter, it was a bad decision but he was not the reason we lost this series

Completely agree. People need to be arguing that we should not have been in that position to begin with if we actually had a decent second option. But pretending that was actually a good shot is insane.

I actually would not even be saying anything if Jimmy took a pull up “low percentage” mid range shot there, if the thought is that because Al Horford was sagging off he shouldn’t have went to the rim. It’s technically a low percentage shot, but not for Jimmy. That’s his bread and butter.

But a three? And off-balance three from one of the worst three point shooters on the team? No sir. Jimmy was our best player and our hero this entire playoffs, but a bad shot is a bad shot and we should be OK to call it out while still being quite adamant in saying he was far from the reason we lost this game

It is pretty simple. He made it the reason we lost the game with the stupid shot.
Not one person I was with agreed with such bone head decision. Not one.

[Flash4thewin]

Lowry was actually pretty solid all season. Still think he could be of used. Just need another scorer.

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[Beenie]

At least Bam went out swinging. This was the only game in the series he didn't look afraid to attack both Horford and RW3 (in game 3 Williams did not participate).

To have another shot next year, we need an evolution of Bam's offensive game, with Spo making it a focal point.

Jimmy and Bam have no offensive chemistry.

The offense is too 3 point dependent so either one of them are usually in an action that features a shooter as the primary passing target.

Rarely see a 2-man game between those two.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

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I don’t know if it’s Herro should be traded as much as he’ll have to be. If we weren’t trying for a championship and so close to it, I think that unlike them, hero has shown enough that he is committed to improving in the off-season. It’s just we don’t have time for his development, especially on the defensive end where it seems like it’s going to be a long road before he is even average there.

He and Bam will need to be packaged to get us an all-star of the caliber of the names that people are tossing around like Damien, Mitchell, and the rest. But I think it’s clear at this point that This roster is simply not enough help for Jimmy. It’s too hard to reliably generate buckets.

I hope if we can package Bam plus Herro plus Gabe or Martin and get Embiid.

Then move Lowery plus Strus for another legitimate play maker/ballhandler on the perimeter. Someone of the caliber of lonzo Ball (but obviously not him)

I disagree Herro is good enough to centerpiece a trade for a star that wants out. If Dame, Beal or Mitchell want out Herro Robinson and our next 3 available 1st round picks should get it done based on the last few blockbuster trades in the last few years.

Maybe Dame because he’s older, but Utah would not part with Mitchell for what would essentially amount to a Herro for Mitchell swap. Absolutely not. It’s weird that so many of us hate Herro and want him gone because he sucks or whatever, but think he can net a top 15 player in the league on his own? Same with Bam. I am under no delusion that Bam can get us Embiid by himself. He’s absolutely not even in the same stratosphere. So we have to attach other pieces to make it enticing for the other team. We’re talking about players that are under long contract, not players who can up and leave next year so the other team maybe has more of an incentive.

I personally don’t think Beal puts us over the hump so wouldn’t even want that trade, especially with Beals soon gigantic contract.

Mitchell for sure the longest shot but Harden set the new precedent so anything is possible. Dame imo is the obvious choice but Beal fits the easiest tho and probably cost us the least in a trade.

[Shewasfly]

At least Bam went out swinging. This was the only game in the series he didn't look afraid to attack both Horford and RW3 (in game 3 Williams did not participate).

To have another shot next year, we need an evolution of Bam's offensive game, with Spo making it a focal point.

Jimmy and Bam have no offensive chemistry.

The offense is too 3 point dependent so either one of them are usually in an action that features a shooter as the primary passing target.

Rarely see a 2-man game between those two.

It was me who called this out awhile ago. Jimmy and Bam pick and rolls result in nothing but clutter in the lane. Jimmy ends up just passing it back out to the perimeter where our shooters pass it along to each other and struggle to get an open look. It’s why despite it all Herro and Bam pick and rolls actually look better than the ones ran with Jimmy. They don’t necessarily play in the same space the way that Jimmy and Bam do.

I genuinely do think that Jimmy will, if not already is, behind the scenes pushing to get rid of Bam for Embiid. Hope Riley can work his magic.

[Shewasfly]

Spoiler:

I disagree Herro is good enough to centerpiece a trade for a star that wants out. If Dame, Beal or Mitchell want out Herro Robinson and our next 3 available 1st round picks should get it done based on the last few blockbuster trades in the last few years.

Maybe Dame because he’s older, but Utah would not part with Mitchell for what would essentially amount to a Herro for Mitchell swap. Absolutely not. It’s weird that so many of us hate Herro and want him gone because he sucks or whatever, but think he can net a top 15 player in the league on his own? Same with Bam. I am under no delusion that Bam can get us Embiid by himself. He’s absolutely not even in the same stratosphere. So we have to attach other pieces to make it enticing for the other team. We’re talking about players that are under long contract, not players who can up and leave next year so the other team maybe has more of an incentive.

I personally don’t think Beal puts us over the hump so wouldn’t even want that trade, especially with Beals soon gigantic contract.

Mitchell for sure the longest shot but Harden set the new precedent so anything is possible. Dame imo is the obvious choice but Beal fits the easiest tho and probably cost us the least in a trade.

I would love if we could somehow turn Herro, Strus (as sad as that makes me to say if y’all know my love for Max ) and Lowry into Dame.

Dame
Dipo
Jimmy
Bam
Yogurt

That’s a team with more hope. But again, I’m not seeing the likelihood that teams makes these moves without both Bam and Herro

[3ammy3uck3ts]

biggest thing we gotta do is get rid of lowry and not get fleeced in the trade.

I've said this a few times that I'd explore flipping Lowry for D-Russ.

Minny is rumored to be out on him and they could use a vet replacement.

Man idk that’s tough. DLo had a pretty solid season though and they were very good when he was healthy and on the court

[AirP.]

Dipo also factored into the decision to pass on Dragic Im guessing.

Dipo was 4-12 and 1-7 from 3 tonight

Mia desperately needs a guard who can get buckets.

And with Herro having the post season that he had, a decision will have to be made about him.

Not really, Oladipo wasn't back yet. Oladipo isn't the player this season he should be a few months in next season.

I think Mia's plan when they brought Dipo back was for him to have a role in the post season.

Between him, the emergence of Vincent, and Herro playing well all season, I dont fault Mia at all for not bringing back Dragic.

Not flipping Duncan at the deadline was a mistake. And now his trade value probably takes a hit given his continued poor play and playoff benching.

That's the non move that erks me.

They could have signed Dragic instead of Highsmith. Not too sure about going into the playoffs with Oladipo being rusty or Vincent not playoff proven. It was a pretty easy move.

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[Riftur]

Yep, low percentage shot from a low percentage 3 point shooter, it was a bad decision but he was not the reason we lost this series

Completely agree. People need to be arguing that we should not have been in that position to begin with if we actually had a decent second option. But pretending that was actually a good shot is insane.

I actually would not even be saying anything if Jimmy took a pull up “low percentage” mid range shot there, if the thought is that because Al Horford was sagging off he shouldn’t have went to the rim. It’s technically a low percentage shot, but not for Jimmy. That’s his bread and butter.

But a three? And off-balance three from one of the worst three point shooters on the team? No sir. Jimmy was our best player and our hero this entire playoffs, but a bad shot is a bad shot and we should be OK to call it out while still being quite adamant in saying he was far from the reason we lost this game

It is pretty simple. He made it the reason we lost the game with the stupid shot.
Not one person I was with agreed with such bone head decision. Not one.

I was not happy about that shot either but I know why he took it. Even if he made the 2 to tie the game and it went into OT, he had nothing left. It was win or lose at that point. Regardless, We lost in the playoffs because our 3 point shooters disappeared as soon as the playoffs started. Maybe its because they are young, but that's why.

[Tony15]

I was smashing bam all season he had 21 shot attempts and gave 25-11-4 can’t blame bam and wouldn’t look to trade him he shows he can show up

No. We’re not going to congratulate Bam for doing what he’s supposed to be doing as a max player. Tired of y’all treating him like a short bus player when he’s a max contract taking up a large chunk of the salary cap of this team. I was defending him before but after these playoffs? Not anymore.

Imagine if the Celtics come into the series actually believing they had to guard Bam. How does that change the outlook? How does that change the way the series unfolds? Hell does Jimmy get ground down to a nub still, or with a reliable second option is he left with enough left to put us over the hump? Bam is a big reason this series was a loss and our season is over.

Edrice needs to have his head examined....why can't he put up those numbers every night, and still be as effective defensively? Jimmy's doing it and he's up there in age. Edrice has no excuses. Either he develops a reliable mid range game, or we deal him at the deadline. I agree that we can't have a max player that's as up and down as he is. Not a great playoff showing from him.