2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 3

[contract]

We need to quit worrying about getting a "good return" for Jimmy and just focus on not getting a bad one.

I would accept salary cap relief at this point with nothing added. Give me Ben Simmons and filler and you've got a deal.

We could sit Jimmy, but that's going to be an ugly look. Better to just be done with it today.

You can get a good return, I do believe it was mentioned he said send me anywhere. Just take the best package that doesn't bring back long term contracts.

I'm not sure that trade exists. Good teams (almost all teams) are capped out and aren't going to want to tie themselves to a 35 year old long term with the tax troubles that is going to bring. Bad teams are trying to rebuild and aren't going to want to eat up their cap with him.

IMO we have to trade Jimmy as a rental. Which is fine as long as it's done tonight.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

We need to quit worrying about getting a "good return" for Jimmy and just focus on not getting a bad one.

I would accept salary cap relief at this point with nothing added. Give me Ben Simmons and filler and you've got a deal.

We could sit Jimmy, but that's going to be an ugly look. Better to just be done with it today.

I legit was just looking at that exact trade. Ben Simmons and DLo and give them Duncan and Jimmy and call it a day at this point. Idk if that even works but both those guys are expiring as well.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Jimmy a 1st and Jaime for Fox and monk, GET IT DONE

Zero chance of happening. Kings are moving to keep Fox happy this year.

How?

[Dmcdani6]

We need to quit worrying about getting a "good return" for Jimmy and just focus on not getting a bad one.

I would accept salary cap relief at this point with nothing added. Give me Ben Simmons and filler and you've got a deal.

We could sit Jimmy, but that's going to be an ugly look. Better to just be done with it today.

Could we rectify Ben Simmons career and play him exclusively at the point full time?

He looks a bit uninterested, has he improved? Just whoever wants him and is willing to give a good
Player and a pick or two, get on it. He needs to stay away from the team as well. He brings the spirits down, you can tell.

[contract]

We need to quit worrying about getting a "good return" for Jimmy and just focus on not getting a bad one.

I would accept salary cap relief at this point with nothing added. Give me Ben Simmons and filler and you've got a deal.

We could sit Jimmy, but that's going to be an ugly look. Better to just be done with it today.

Could we rectify Ben Simmons career and play him exclusively at the point full time?

There's no fixing that mess. It would be just bringing him in and letting him expire.

[MettaWorldPanda]

We need to quit worrying about getting a "good return" for Jimmy and just focus on not getting a bad one.

I would accept salary cap relief at this point with nothing added. Give me Ben Simmons and filler and you've got a deal.

We could sit Jimmy, but that's going to be an ugly look. Better to just be done with it today.

I legit was just looking at that exact trade. Ben Simmons and DLo and give them Duncan and Jimmy and call it a day at this point. Idk if that even works but both those guys are expiring as well.

Ben Simmons is a Bernie Lee client. BK is also wanting to tank this year. GSW can offer Kyle Anderson, Payton, Looney, and Wiggins for Butler but we don’t have roster spots for all these players so we need to flip some parts to a 3rd team.

[MettaWorldPanda]

With Jimmy gone Duncan is getting an extension lol

[Flash4thewin]

We need to quit worrying about getting a "good return" for Jimmy and just focus on not getting a bad one.

I would accept salary cap relief at this point with nothing added. Give me Ben Simmons and filler and you've got a deal.

We could sit Jimmy, but that's going to be an ugly look. Better to just be done with it today.

I legit was just looking at that exact trade. Ben Simmons and DLo and give them Duncan and Jimmy and call it a day at this point. Idk if that even works but both those guys are expiring as well.

But why would the Nets do that? They are tanking this year because they own their own draft pick. If they win the lottery, maybe they can have some interest and just use the capspace they have to absorb him and we get out of the tax, but thats assuming they win the lottery. No reason to trade for him now.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Not a huge fan of how Jimmy and his team are handling it but I cant blame them. The front office failed him and this team.
I can't say I'm on Jimmy's side right now but I'm not backing this front office either. They Fcked this so bad.

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[twix2500]

The deadline was Christmas on deciding on Butler's future as I said before. The Heat worked with Butler's agent to try and find a new team, to see what the market was for him and to find a team that may be willing to resign Butler to a deal of his liking. However the market wasnt strong on a trade for Butler AND there were not teams really out their promising to extend him. That is why Houston dropped out. Suns may be the only team wiling to give him the contract.

[AirP.]

We need to quit worrying about getting a "good return" for Jimmy and just focus on not getting a bad one.

I would accept salary cap relief at this point with nothing added. Give me Ben Simmons and filler and you've got a deal.

We could sit Jimmy, but that's going to be an ugly look. Better to just be done with it today.

I legit was just looking at that exact trade. Ben Simmons and DLo and give them Duncan and Jimmy and call it a day at this point. Idk if that even works but both those guys are expiring as well.

Maybe it's time to consider a trade with New Orleans? They have 4 chunky contracts that could be sent back... Zion, Ingram, McCollum and even Murray.

[contract]

We need to quit worrying about getting a "good return" for Jimmy and just focus on not getting a bad one.

I would accept salary cap relief at this point with nothing added. Give me Ben Simmons and filler and you've got a deal.

We could sit Jimmy, but that's going to be an ugly look. Better to just be done with it today.

I legit was just looking at that exact trade. Ben Simmons and DLo and give them Duncan and Jimmy and call it a day at this point. Idk if that even works but both those guys are expiring as well.

Ben Simmons is a Bernie Lee client. BK is also wanting to tank this year. GSW can offer Kyle Anderson, Payton, Looney, and Wiggins for Butler but we don’t have roster spots for all these players so we need to flip some parts to a 3rd team.

I don't think that's what really matters. The only teams that are going to want Jimmy are teams that are looking to win now. Obviously that's not the Nets. I just tossed out Simmons because he's a large expiring, but there's no reason for the Nets to make that trade.

Besides, trading Jimmy somewhere he has a chance to win would be a nice gold watch on the way out.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Get me Zion, pels extend Ingram.

Murray
CJ
Jimmy
Murphy
Missi

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I’m ready for inquiring teams to be leaked, let’s see what we’re working with

[AirP.]

I legit was just looking at that exact trade. Ben Simmons and DLo and give them Duncan and Jimmy and call it a day at this point. Idk if that even works but both those guys are expiring as well.

Ben Simmons is a Bernie Lee client. BK is also wanting to tank this year. GSW can offer Kyle Anderson, Payton, Looney, and Wiggins for Butler but we don’t have roster spots for all these players so we need to flip some parts to a 3rd team.

I don't think that's what really matters. The only teams that are going to want Jimmy are teams that are looking to win now. Obviously that's not the Nets. I just tossed out Simmons because he's a large expiring, but there's no reason for the Nets to make that trade.

Besides, trading Jimmy somewhere he has a chance to win would be a nice gold watch on the way out.

Nah, he's mentioned being traded anywhere so now that's what Miami's FO needs to look at.

[MettaWorldPanda]

No way GSW trades Kuminga at this point. They will possibly trade there spare parts for him even if it’s just as a rental. Anderson, Looney(expiring), Wiggins, Anderson, and Payton(expiring) with a possible pick would seem like a fair offer at this juncture. Basically becomes just a Butler for Wiggins swap.

[batterybro42]

I think one of the things that is lost is Spo wants to change the scheme and offense and it’s just not compatible with our personal. This team is constructed for a different style of ball, one that currently isn’t winning in the NBA or sustainable. Spo wants us 5 out and shooting a ton of 3s. It’s why they tried to make Bam shooting 3s work. It’s why Tyler Herro is balling out, it’s because he’s a fit in this.

Miami has to make decisions, because right now I can tell you Bam is a weird fit in this and Ware is showing some promise in a way that can make that fit very awkward for everybody. Bam can’t play the 4 in that style of ball if he can’t shoot.

The question becomes what can you get for Bam? Miami has a lot of options that are going to be open for them in around 18 months a super team type build becomes extremely possible for them that type of flexibility and opportunity hasn’t existed here since 2010

If Miami is in a situation with Spo as the Coach a sizable amount of young players and assets along with the ability to add 3 max players I don’t think there will be a shortage of players looking to take that opportunity. Need to find out if Herro/Bam will be part of that. Herro is looking the part to me, but he’s going to need to wait on the extension.

[twix2500]

The option to let Butler walk was ok with the Heat. But Jimmy agent is likely telling him, that being a year older, he likely will not get the contract he is wanting this summer. That going to a team to help them win a chip this season may get the promise of an extension.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[AirP.]

I think one of the things that is lost is Spo wants to change the scheme and offense and it’s just not compatible with our personal. This team is constructed for a different style of ball, one that currently isn’t winning in the NBA or sustainable. Spo wants us 5 out and shooting a ton of 3s. It’s why they tried to make Bam shooting 3s work. It’s why Tyler Herro is balling out, it’s because he’s a fit in this.

Miami has to make decisions, because right now I can tell you Bam is a weird fit in this and Ware is showing some promise in a way that can make that fit very awkward for everybody. Bam can’t play the 4 in that style of ball if he can’t shoot.

The question becomes what can you get for Bam? Miami has a lot of options that are going to be open for them in around 18 months a super team type build becomes extremely possible for them that type of flexibility and opportunity hasn’t existed here since 2010

Right, this is a scheme issue and until the NBA addresses the 3pt issue (it's become too easy to be worth 50% more points than a regular FG), teams are going to be building 3pt shooting teams.