HeatSince88 wrote:Jordan's Bulls were actually one of the most post-based offenses of our time. By definition, the triangle is a series of post-ups, often several post-ups on the same possession. If you're too young to remember that, watch today's Lakers and count the number of post-ups.
The only team in the last 30-40 years to win a title without a significant post player may have been the 1980s Pistons ... and those who know their b-ball would tell you that statement severely underrates the post skills and importance of Mark Aguirre and James "Buddha" Edwards. Those two lived in the post and combined to score 30 ppg (mostly out of the post) for those championship teams. The Heat have no such post players.
So you could legitmately say that every team that's won a championsip in the modern era has had a more significant post presence than Marion or Haslem or Blount.
Don't get me wrong, Rose may very well be a more certain star than Beasley. But saying that Rose is a better fit in building a championship team around Wade is to ignore the last 40 years of NBA history, current standings, and the fundamental tenant of offensive basketball ("inside-out").
11 titles by Boston. Who score down low for them, did they have Chamberlain. No they had a defensive big in Bill Russel, are you implying Beasley is one.
Detroit, how many post bigs did they have? The had defensive big men again, are you implying Beasley is a defensive big.
Bulls how many post bigs? Maybe Luc Longley, and Kukoc. Being generous.
No real bigs in defense, but once again a very good defensive team.
Know Lakers with Magic, had Kareem. People think, oh post precense. But he had as much impact at the defensive end, he was offensive, defensive big. .
Hakeem, offensive and defensive big.
Duncan offensive and defensive big.
Shaq offensive and defensive big.
Beasley borderline big, not a defensive big.
But I counted between Boston Celtics, Detroit with Isiah, and the Bulls, a total of 19 titles without no real offensive dominant bigs.
Know let me count the number of titles with defensive bigs. I think 28 titles. Didn't include Boston Celtics of the 80's, but they R Parish and McHale
So I proved you could win titles without no post dominance in the offensive end, a total of 19 titles.
I counted 28 titles with a defensive big.
So I get this, it helps to have a descent low post game, but is not the end of the world if you don't have it, you could still win titles. But you need a defensive big even more, but is not necessary if your overall team defense is good enough, but the Bulls are the anomaly at this end.
I agree in post precense, but I think the real post presence the Heat will need, is a defensive one. Beasley neither Rose.
But I think finding a pointguard to spark us to be one of the top offensive teams is the beginning. Then Riley has to work his magic finding the defensive bigs to get this team to whole new level.