Around the NBA 9.0 (Playoffs Edition)

[IggieCC]

Wow. After THAT game he is unclutch now?

He didn't even play bad.. his stats were probably better than anyone from both teams.

I'm totally over it and kind of glad we lost last night, now one more game we'll get to watch in the playoffs

[IggieCC]

Getting punched in the nuts is always a great way to start off an important playoff game

[GetMoney]

jordan never lost a playoff game tho so yea lebron is unclutch

[dr3am]

wake me up when the Conference Finals starts

[Sonny Carson]

Kudos to the Spurs and OKC for wanting to come out and kick these teams ***...

That WCF is going to be a war.

[GetMoney]

yup this round is over

pacers by 25 tonight

[narmerguy]

So the top two seeds in each conference are actually going to advance and play each other? The two seeds everyone predicted at the start of the season? How often does that happen--crazy.

[dr3am]

So the top two seeds in each conference are actually going to advance and play each other? The two seeds everyone predicted at the start of the season? How often does that happen--crazy.

Yea pretty crazy but while the Spurs & OKC have been playing their best basketball both the Heat & the Pacers haven't. Pacers are finally coming around & even though we won games 1 & 2 we all know that's not HEAT basketball. I predicted at the beginning of the season that whoever comes out of the East is winning it all, DEFENSE wins championships

[narmerguy]

So the top two seeds in each conference are actually going to advance and play each other? The two seeds everyone predicted at the start of the season? How often does that happen--crazy.

Yea pretty crazy but while the Spurs & OKC have been playing their best basketball both the Heat & the Pacers haven't. Pacers are finally coming around & even though we won games 1 & 2 we all know that's not HEAT basketball. I predicted at the beginning of the season that whoever comes out of the East is winning it all, DEFENSE wins championships

I don't know if Indy could take Spurs or OKC tbh. Part of their ability to make it so far is that they have big physical guys on the inside that cause such havoc for Miami. Spurs & OKC don't have the same weakness, they can actually throw some bodies on the inside like Ibaka and Duncan. I think if Miami doesn't come out of the East, Spurs or OKC win it.

I definitely agree though (unfortunately)...the Heat have not played their best basketball by any stretch. I hope we turn it on hard for this next game, because dropping early games to Indy is not a good hole to be climbing out of (especially without HC).

[IggieCC]

Yup. Watching OKC vs LAC is like a watching a horrible boxing match

Let's see who can make more jackup 3s in 48 minutes!

[IggieCC]

If Mario Chalmers had an ounce of Chris Paul in him, we would have been truly unbeatable

[dr3am]

So the top two seeds in each conference are actually going to advance and play each other? The two seeds everyone predicted at the start of the season? How often does that happen--crazy.

Yea pretty crazy but while the Spurs & OKC have been playing their best basketball both the Heat & the Pacers haven't. Pacers are finally coming around & even though we won games 1 & 2 we all know that's not HEAT basketball. I predicted at the beginning of the season that whoever comes out of the East is winning it all, DEFENSE wins championships

I don't know if Indy could take Spurs or OKC tbh. Part of their ability to make it so far is that they have big physical guys on the inside that cause such havoc for Miami. Spurs & OKC don't have the same weakness, they can actually throw some bodies on the inside like Ibaka and Duncan. I think if Miami doesn't come out of the East, Spurs or OKC win it.

I definitely agree though (unfortunately)...the Heat have not played their best basketball by any stretch. I hope we turn it on hard for this next game, because dropping early games to Indy is not a good hole to be climbing out of (especially without HC).

If Indy was to play OKC in the Finals who would have HCA?

Earlier in the season when the Pacers were rolling they stomped the Spurs. I think the Spurs would be the favs but if Pacers go back to regular season form they could really challenge them

But with that being said I think we're good against all 3 of them & I agree 100%. We can't be climbing out of holes against Indy, especially since we've yet to win in Indy this season & they play us tough when they're in Indy. I can't wait tho, it's going to be entertaining & the thought of making them cry for the third straight year in a row is making me excited for some reason

[WD]

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6 Reasons Why Carmelo Anthony May Be Overrated

1. Effective field goal percentage and true shooting percentage
In the 2013-2014 regular season, Berri writes that an “average NBA player had an effective field goal percentage (a measure that considers the impact of shooting from two-point and three-point range) of 0.501 and a true shooting percentage (a measure that considers the impact of shooting from the free throw line and the field) of 0.541.” Anthony’s stats put him at a 0.503 effective field goal percentage and a 0.561 true shooting percentage, making him only marginally better than the average player at putting the ball through the hoop.

2. Wins produced
“Wins produced” is a model for estimating individual player contribution to winning and is calculated through box score statistics tracked by the NBA. Taking into account two of the league’s contenders for MVP and pitting them against Anthony, we see the disparity: In the regular season, Durant produced 19.4 wins, James produced 17.8 wins, and Anthony produced just 6.9 wins.

This isn’t just a number limited to the 2013-2014 season, either. Berri reports that in the 2012-2013 season, James produced 21.1 wins, Durant produced 19.2 wins, and Anthony only produced 4.1 wins. This is largely the result of Anthony’s effective field goal percentage and true shooting percentages, which linger close to average, while James and Durant’s figures are significantly higher.

3. Comparison
Sure, we can compare Anthony to James and Durant, but what about when we look at his numbers across the league? Across teams? “Six teams had higher true shooting percentages than Anthony last year,” Berri wrote in The Atlantic. “In fact, on the San Antonio Spurs alone, nine of their 12 players with more than 500 minutes on the court this year posted a higher true shooting percentage than Anthony.” Half a dozen teams that collectively score more efficiently than one of the “best” scorers in the league? The results don’t look good for Anthony.

4. Supporting cast
Despite Anthony asking for a stronger supporting cast, a different story emerges when statistics are taken into account. For this, we turn to the number of wins produced by the supporting casts of the Heat, Thunder, and Knicks: “In 2012-13, the wins produced by everyone on the Heat not named LeBron was 41.0. And when we look at the Oklahoma City Thunder, everyone not named Durant produced 46.3 wins. So each of these players had ‘help.’ But perhaps surprisingly, Anthony had even more help. In 2012-13, everyone not named Carmelo on the Knicks produced 48.0 wins,” Berri said.

Admittedly, the Knicks saw some setbacks in the 2013-2014 season — among them, the injury of Tyson Chandler, the loss of Jason Kidd, and the negative production of wins by Andrea Bargnani. Even with all these changes, however, the disparities between teams are not so great: “[E]very player not named Durant on the Thunder produced 38.5 wins, every player not named James on the Heat produced 36.0 wins, and every player not named Anthony on the Knicks produced 32.0 wins,” writes Berri.

5. Age
Someone had to say it. In the NBA, age is more than a number: It’s usually a representative number. Statistics tell us that players age in a “U-shape,” meaning they gradually get better as they reach 25, peak between 25-26, slowly decline around 30, and then rapidly decline around 32. Anthony will turn 30 on May 29. The NBA’s collective bargaining agreement allows the Knicks to offer Anthony a five-year maximum deal of $129.1 million to stay in New York, which would put him at 35 when the contract expires. Worth it? We’ll see.

6. Playoffs
In his 11 seasons in the NBA, Anthony has only advanced out of the first round of the playoffs twice in his career. This year was the first time in the pros that Anthony hasn’t even made it to the playoffs, something Carmelo said has made everything “cloudy” for him and his future. With Jackson acting as an undoubtedly positive addition to the Knicks franchise, it’s evident that the winds of change are brewing at Madison Square Garden. Only time will tell if Anthony will be around as a beneficiary.

Read more: http://wallstcheatsheet.com/sports/6-re ... z31RRq1cnE

[dr3am]

Thought this article was interesting

6 Reasons Why Carmelo Anthony May Be Overrated

1. Effective field goal percentage and true shooting percentage
In the 2013-2014 regular season, Berri writes that an “average NBA player had an effective field goal percentage (a measure that considers the impact of shooting from two-point and three-point range) of 0.501 and a true shooting percentage (a measure that considers the impact of shooting from the free throw line and the field) of 0.541.” Anthony’s stats put him at a 0.503 effective field goal percentage and a 0.561 true shooting percentage, making him only marginally better than the average player at putting the ball through the hoop.

2. Wins produced
“Wins produced” is a model for estimating individual player contribution to winning and is calculated through box score statistics tracked by the NBA. Taking into account two of the league’s contenders for MVP and pitting them against Anthony, we see the disparity: In the regular season, Durant produced 19.4 wins, James produced 17.8 wins, and Anthony produced just 6.9 wins.

This isn’t just a number limited to the 2013-2014 season, either. Berri reports that in the 2012-2013 season, James produced 21.1 wins, Durant produced 19.2 wins, and Anthony only produced 4.1 wins. This is largely the result of Anthony’s effective field goal percentage and true shooting percentages, which linger close to average, while James and Durant’s figures are significantly higher.

3. Comparison
Sure, we can compare Anthony to James and Durant, but what about when we look at his numbers across the league? Across teams? “Six teams had higher true shooting percentages than Anthony last year,” Berri wrote in The Atlantic. “In fact, on the San Antonio Spurs alone, nine of their 12 players with more than 500 minutes on the court this year posted a higher true shooting percentage than Anthony.” Half a dozen teams that collectively score more efficiently than one of the “best” scorers in the league? The results don’t look good for Anthony.

4. Supporting cast
Despite Anthony asking for a stronger supporting cast, a different story emerges when statistics are taken into account. For this, we turn to the number of wins produced by the supporting casts of the Heat, Thunder, and Knicks: “In 2012-13, the wins produced by everyone on the Heat not named LeBron was 41.0. And when we look at the Oklahoma City Thunder, everyone not named Durant produced 46.3 wins. So each of these players had ‘help.’ But perhaps surprisingly, Anthony had even more help. In 2012-13, everyone not named Carmelo on the Knicks produced 48.0 wins,” Berri said.

Admittedly, the Knicks saw some setbacks in the 2013-2014 season — among them, the injury of Tyson Chandler, the loss of Jason Kidd, and the negative production of wins by Andrea Bargnani. Even with all these changes, however, the disparities between teams are not so great: “[E]very player not named Durant on the Thunder produced 38.5 wins, every player not named James on the Heat produced 36.0 wins, and every player not named Anthony on the Knicks produced 32.0 wins,” writes Berri.

5. Age
Someone had to say it. In the NBA, age is more than a number: It’s usually a representative number. Statistics tell us that players age in a “U-shape,” meaning they gradually get better as they reach 25, peak between 25-26, slowly decline around 30, and then rapidly decline around 32. Anthony will turn 30 on May 29. The NBA’s collective bargaining agreement allows the Knicks to offer Anthony a five-year maximum deal of $129.1 million to stay in New York, which would put him at 35 when the contract expires. Worth it? We’ll see.

6. Playoffs
In his 11 seasons in the NBA, Anthony has only advanced out of the first round of the playoffs twice in his career. This year was the first time in the pros that Anthony hasn’t even made it to the playoffs, something Carmelo said has made everything “cloudy” for him and his future. With Jackson acting as an undoubtedly positive addition to the Knicks franchise, it’s evident that the winds of change are brewing at Madison Square Garden. Only time will tell if Anthony will be around as a beneficiary.

Read more: http://wallstcheatsheet.com/sports/6-re ... z31RRq1cnE

Well apparently on the GB he's a top 5 player

[GetMoney]

best kept secret in the nba is that KD led the league in FTs by a wide margin

dwight gets fouled intentionally for a living and didnt even come close

BUT LEBRON!!

[Bourne85]

Thunder n spurs look much better than us at this point. Not good

[Amorphous Blob]

Durant has 13 fta on 15 shots wow.

[GetMoney]

Thunder n spurs look much better than us at this point. Not good

yup
but the sunshine pumpers with their heads in the sand would have you believe last year's accomplishments mean something and that lebron will rise above all and carry us to the mountain top

both the spurs and OKC got better
we got worse, and it took a miracle to win last year

but lebron will carry us. dont be afraid

[Amorphous Blob]

Thunder n spurs look much better than us at this point. Not good

yup
but the sunshine pumpers with their heads in the sand would have you believe last year's accomplishments mean something and that lebron will rise above all and carry us to the mountain top

both the spurs and OKC got better
we got worse, and it took a miracle to win last year

but lebron will carry us. dont be afraid

You're right we have no chance time to stop watching and give up.

I mean listen to yourself is it going to be extremely difficult to 3-peat? Of course it is but why not try believing in the team how many times in the past few seasons have we thought it was over?

This loser attitude some of you have is so annoying if you want to give up go ahead but don't drag the rest of us down with you.

[ixxa]

Durant has 13 fta on 15 shots wow.

Orz MVP Orz