2020 NBA Draft - We have a FRP!....for now

[puppa bear]

It’s starting to look like Miami is trading for another 2nd rounder. They’re looking to pick a PG with their first round pick and a center with what looks like another pick. They’ve been working out PGs up until recently when they’ve started to work out early second round types of centers.

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I will take it.

DD123 is a draft boarder that I tend to agree with in most cases. Many posters stand out on the draft forum for the wrong reasons, but not DD123.

I’ve had the feeling for a while that we’re looking at both a PG and a big. Seeing someone from outside comment the same reinforces the idea.

It may also be that we now have a deal in place to trade back & pick up a guard. So now we’re looking at the bigs in that range ...

EDIT: NOP has the #39 & #42, and if we had a #20/Nunn/KO/Iggy for Jrue/#42 deal in place then it’d be smart to switch from scouting PGs to bigs.

[twix2500]

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Love this interview of Edwards. I does not bother me when a freshmen is not fully develop bball IQ and fundamentals. As long as they are willing, aware and works hard to improve their game. Listen to Edwards is open and excited about talking about improving his game. Either him or Wiseman should be the number one pick. I think he fits so well with Towns and Russell.

KZ had weak BBall IQ and fundamentals. But because he has the will and awareness along with his physical tools I think we are gonna see an impact from KZ next year after a year of coaching

[radikalBaller]

Im adding 2 prospects to the Heat Big board as undrafted targets or bottom bottom of the second round buy-in.

Nathan Knight 6"10 235 Center could be an undrafted steal. Hes not Bam but could give a bench breather looks willing to work.
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Omer Yurtseven 7"0 275 Center reminds me of Marc Gasol

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Knight look intriging

[radikalBaller]

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Tillman vs Zion

Tillman does not have quick feet, but he plays smart, and looksstrong enough to bang with Zion, and Zion is super strong,even ragdolled Howard on a drive. Tillman could be a nice bench role player, I would give him Chris Silva spot if we had a 2nd rounder to pick him. If he can really shoot the 3 and we trade Olynik for Dipo, Tillman could replace some of Kelly skills with his passing and shooting...

[RexBoyWonder]

I would be happy if we picked up a PG at #20 and a big in the early second round.

Whoever they pick in each category - I'll give them credit they saw something that makes them believe he has that untapped potential in him.

We should have at least 3 options for a PG and ever more for a big. This draft is filled with Bigs that look like they can contribute, and a lot of them seem to be (on the surface) on the same talent tier.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Thinking we better be taking Vernon Carey seriously with his ties

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[Wiltside]

Thinking we better be taking Vernon Carey seriously with his ties

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Them some pretty tight Heat ties.

Still, the scouting department shouldn't be swayed purely based on 'who he's tight with'. It's about talent and organisational fit.

Having said that, I don't mind Carey. Gives me Moose Monroe vibes a little bit, future is probably a bench big scorer, but hope he can make strides defensively. We'll see.

[DayofMourning]

Were going to draft IQ, Carey and Nnaji! Not just two picks but three!

[DayofMourning]

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Reading the comments, Suave Guyy has to be a board member

[lastb1ckman]

I don't like Carey Jr on the Heat. When a player's closest comparisons are either out of the league by 30 (Monroe), or a 3rd string center (Okafor), I'm not enthusiastic. And those guys weren't exactly bums in college either.

[dolphinatik]

Love this interview of Edwards. I does not bother me when a freshmen is not fully develop bball IQ and fundamentals. As long as they are willing, aware and works hard to improve their game. Listen to Edwards is open and excited about talking about improving his game. Either him or Wiseman should be the number one pick. I think he fits so well with Towns and Russell.

KZ had weak BBall IQ and fundamentals. But because he has the will and awareness along with his physical tools I think we are gonna see an impact from KZ next year after a year of coaching

Man can you imagine what Jimmy Butler or a Marcus Smart and the right coaching staff can do with this kid? It will be a a shame if he goes to an organization that doesnt challenge him to the fullest. Rooting for this kid. If he doesnt go first and Warriors draft him its a wrap.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Man I'm sold on Immanuel Quickley. Really hope we package #20 and end up with something in the early 2nd rd to grab him up

Honestly I probably wouldn't even be mad taking him at #20 if no trade materialized. 6'3" barefoot (over 6'8" wingspan), solid 188 lbs (reportedly adding on to that), deadeye 3/D swing guard who would fit seamlessly into our playstyle. Biggest question is whether he has on-ball PG skills but that would basically be icing on the cake for us given how Yimmy and Gogi already handle that role. Also has the Calipari pedigree which weighs significantly with me. I feel like he'd be considered a mid-late 1st rounder right now had the 2020 NCAA season been able to play out

I still think our primary need is a big to complement Bam but IQ would be hard to pass on imo

[puppa bear]

Man I'm sold on Immanuel Quickley. Really hope we package #20 and end up with something in the early 2nd rd to grab him up

Honestly I probably wouldn't even be mad taking him at #20 if no trade materialized. 6'3" barefoot (over 6'8" wingspan), solid 188 lbs (reportedly adding on to that), deadeye 3/D swing guard who would fit seamlessly into our playstyle. Biggest question is whether he has on-ball PG skills but that would basically be icing on the cake for us given how Yimmy and Gogi already handle that role. Also has the Calipari pedigree which weighs significantly with me. I feel like he'd be considered a mid-late 1st rounder right now had the 2020 NCAA season been able to play out

I still think our primary need is a big to complement Bam but IQ would be hard to pass on imo

I hope that a IQ/Nnaji combination is the target for this draft.

We’ll see movement on the 16th, and then a tonne on the night, as deals are swung. Deals will fall into place as the draft plays out, because everyone’s board is going to be so different from each other’s this year. I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re in the thick of it, and nab a steal or two.

[RexBoyWonder]

Thinking we better be taking Vernon Carey seriously with his ties

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I've been hearing his name come up lately, Heat media guys reporting he worked out for us too,

Not sure what's the thinking behind this.

We trying to bring back the 90's post up C? Am I missing something in his game?

Very strange to me.

[twix2500]

Thinking we better be taking Vernon Carey seriously with his ties

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I've been hearing his name come up lately, Heat media guys reporting he worked out for us too,

Not sure what's the thinking behind this.

We trying to bring back the 90's post up C? Am I missing something in his game?

Very strange to me.

Offensively i do not have a problem with Carey. Its defensively thats my concerns. If he moves better on defensive than what I think he can. Im sure Heat wanted to see in person how he moves

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[RexBoyWonder]

Thinking we better be taking Vernon Carey seriously with his ties

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I've been hearing his name come up lately, Heat media guys reporting he worked out for us too,

Not sure what's the thinking behind this.

We trying to bring back the 90's post up C? Am I missing something in his game?

Very strange to me.

Offensively i do not have a problem with Carey. Its defensively thats my concerns. If he moves better on defensive than what I think he can. Im sure Heat wanted to see in person how he moves

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Very puzzling to me, Unless the kid magically lost 30 pounds and as a result moves way quicker, and suddenly became a consistent outside shooter - we have no no business selecting him.

A slow heavy non shooting post up 6"10 guy, as talented as may be, is THE LAST THING this team needs next to Bam.

[twix2500]

I've been hearing his name come up lately, Heat media guys reporting he worked out for us too,

Not sure what's the thinking behind this.

We trying to bring back the 90's post up C? Am I missing something in his game?

Very strange to me.

Offensively i do not have a problem with Carey. Its defensively thats my concerns. If he moves better on defensive than what I think he can. Im sure Heat wanted to see in person how he moves

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Very puzzling to me, Unless the kid magically lost 30 pounds and as a result moves way quicker, and suddenly became a consistent outside shooter - we have no no business selecting him.

A slow heavy non shooting post up 6"10 guy, as talented as may be, is THE LAST THING this team needs next to Bam.

Rex, bro the more I look at Tillman tapes I think he is the Thybulle of this draft. This guy can play. If he hits jumpers, bro whew.....

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[heat4life]

I've been hearing his name come up lately, Heat media guys reporting he worked out for us too,

Not sure what's the thinking behind this.

We trying to bring back the 90's post up C? Am I missing something in his game?

Very strange to me.

Offensively i do not have a problem with Carey. Its defensively thats my concerns. If he moves better on defensive than what I think he can. Im sure Heat wanted to see in person how he moves

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Very puzzling to me, Unless the kid magically lost 30 pounds and as a result moves way quicker, and suddenly became a consistent outside shooter - we have no no business selecting him.

A slow heavy non shooting post up 6"10 guy, as talented as may be, is THE LAST THING this team needs next to Bam.

His father was quoted as saying he lost 23lbs. since the season was cancelled down from 260. It doesn't mean much if his lateral movement isn't quick. We are back to Hassan Whiteside defending the perimeter. The kid can score in the paint which was a weakness for us during the finals when we couldn't get to the paint. I would say he needs to improve his scoring range out and his passing out of the paint if he is going to play there. Defensively is where he's shown physical limitations. How much can he improve his lateral movement and foot work? That to me is the key to his future.

[lastb1ckman]

Offensively i do not have a problem with Carey. Its defensively thats my concerns. If he moves better on defensive than what I think he can. Im sure Heat wanted to see in person how he moves

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Very puzzling to me, Unless the kid magically lost 30 pounds and as a result moves way quicker, and suddenly became a consistent outside shooter - we have no no business selecting him.

A slow heavy non shooting post up 6"10 guy, as talented as may be, is THE LAST THING this team needs next to Bam.

His father was quoted as saying he lost 23lbs. since the season was cancelled down from 260. It doesn't mean much if his lateral movement isn't quick. We are back to Hassan Whiteside defending the perimeter. The kid can score in the paint which was a weakness for us during the finals when we couldn't get to the paint. I would say he needs to improve his scoring range out and his passing out of the paint if he is going to play there. Defensively is where he's shown physical limitations. How much can he improved his lateral movement and foot work? That to me is the key to his future.

Along with this, his physical measurements aren't all that either. Only 6'10" with a 7'0" maybe 7'1" wingspan, without either top tier athleticism or great defensive BBIQ.

[RexBoyWonder]

Offensively i do not have a problem with Carey. Its defensively thats my concerns. If he moves better on defensive than what I think he can. Im sure Heat wanted to see in person how he moves

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Very puzzling to me, Unless the kid magically lost 30 pounds and as a result moves way quicker, and suddenly became a consistent outside shooter - we have no no business selecting him.

A slow heavy non shooting post up 6"10 guy, as talented as may be, is THE LAST THING this team needs next to Bam.

His father was quoted as saying he lost 23lbs. since the season was cancelled down from 260. It doesn't mean much if his lateral movement isn't quick. We are back to Hassan Whiteside defending the perimeter. The kid can score in the paint which was a weakness for us during the finals when we couldn't get to the paint. I would say he needs to improve his scoring range out and his passing out of the paint if he is going to play there. Defensively is where he's shown physical limitations. How much can he improved his lateral movement and foot work? That to me is the key to his future.

He's just 19 YO so he's still growing, I have a hard time believing he lost 23 pounds considering he an active athlete to begin with, I'll need more then his dad's word for that.

Zion, as talented as he is - is the prime example of how challenging it is for some guys to keep their body light enough for basketball.

If he really did lose a ton of weight AND added an outside shot - he's practically a different player then we saw. Doesn't seem likely but I guess that's why we worked him out.