2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8

[MettaWorldPanda]

If we have a star that can give you 25-30 a night, 2 all stars that can give you 20 a night and play defense, and a 3 and D glue guy at the other position in the starting lineup I’m thinking Davion can absolutely be the starting PG if we build a contender. As long as the 3 ball is legit that is.

What is good value for Davion, like if he can give you 10-2-6 a night with efficient shooting and his elite defense is 4/48M a steal?

Mid level deal looks good for sure for a starting PG and then you draft a high upside backup that continues to push him or makes him into a high end backup still on a good deal.

[twix2500]

Duncan Robinson was clutch with 10 fourth quarter pts and big plays down the stretch. Finish the game with 20 pts and 5 assist on 10 fga. Shot 80% from the field and 66.7% from three.

[Voltron914]

If we have a star that can give you 25-30 a night, 2 all stars that can give you 20 a night and play defense, and a 3 and D glue guy at the other position in the starting lineup I’m thinking Davion can absolutely be the starting PG if we build a contender. As long as the 3 ball is legit that is.

What is good value for Davion, like if he can give you 10-2-6 a night with efficient shooting and his elite defense is 4/48M a steal?

i like what he is giving this team and should be a key role player going forward. one night we get 20pts and 6ast last night we got 10pts 8ast so he is not forcing anything playing within the flow of the game. next step is getting chemistry with Ware and Bam for some lobs. The defense with him wiggins bam and highsmith will cause havoc going forward

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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In honor of the clutch win against the Pacers last night here’s a throwback to our GOAT and 2nd clutchest player in Heat history behind Bam burying the Pacers himself

[oreon]

If we have a star that can give you 25-30 a night, 2 all stars that can give you 20 a night and play defense, and a 3 and D glue guy at the other position in the starting lineup I’m thinking Davion can absolutely be the starting PG if we build a contender. As long as the 3 ball is legit that is.

What is good value for Davion, like if he can give you 10-2-6 a night with efficient shooting and his elite defense is 4/48M a steal?

If the plan is 2026 then you can't eat into that cap space for Davion. I would offer a 2 year deal with a team option. Maybe you do a partial guarantee for 2nd year. I don't see many teams going after him so no need to give a long term deal if you don't have to. And if he walks, he walks.

[Wiltside]

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In honor of the clutch win against the Pacers last night here’s a throwback to our GOAT and 2nd clutchest player in Heat history behind Bam burying the Pacers himself

[Flash4thewin]

If we have a star that can give you 25-30 a night, 2 all stars that can give you 20 a night and play defense, and a 3 and D glue guy at the other position in the starting lineup I’m thinking Davion can absolutely be the starting PG if we build a contender. As long as the 3 ball is legit that is.

What is good value for Davion, like if he can give you 10-2-6 a night with efficient shooting and his elite defense is 4/48M a steal?

Well the MLE is 14 mil this offseason so the numbers are off, it would be a 56/4 year deal. Like others stated, if we actually do have a plan for 2026 then it's unlikely we sign him and most likely lose him for nothing since we wont match. The other option would be him taking the qualifying offer but it would make things tricky to resign him because of the cap holds. If we are actually serious about 2026 then it's unlikely we sign him.

[Bishop45]

Duncan Robinson was clutch with 10 fourth quarter pts and big plays down the stretch. Finish the game with 20 pts and 5 assist on 10 fga. Shot 80% from the field and 66.7% from three.

Good Duncan and good Heat team seem to come hand-in-hand

[Bmaster]

If we have a star that can give you 25-30 a night, 2 all stars that can give you 20 a night and play defense, and a 3 and D glue guy at the other position in the starting lineup I’m thinking Davion can absolutely be the starting PG if we build a contender. As long as the 3 ball is legit that is.

What is good value for Davion, like if he can give you 10-2-6 a night with efficient shooting and his elite defense is 4/48M a steal?

Well the MLE is 14 mil this offseason so the numbers are off, it would be a 56/4 year deal. Like others stated, if we actually do have a plan for 2026 then it's unlikely we sign him and most likely lose him for nothing since we wont match. The other option would be him taking the qualifying offer but it would make things tricky to resign him because of the cap holds. If we are actually serious about 2026 then it's unlikely we sign him.

Bummer. I really like Mitchel as long term solution at pg.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If we have a star that can give you 25-30 a night, 2 all stars that can give you 20 a night and play defense, and a 3 and D glue guy at the other position in the starting lineup I’m thinking Davion can absolutely be the starting PG if we build a contender. As long as the 3 ball is legit that is.

What is good value for Davion, like if he can give you 10-2-6 a night with efficient shooting and his elite defense is 4/48M a steal?

Well the MLE is 14 mil this offseason so the numbers are off, it would be a 56/4 year deal. Like others stated, if we actually do have a plan for 2026 then it's unlikely we sign him and most likely lose him for nothing since we wont match. The other option would be him taking the qualifying offer but it would make things tricky to resign him because of the cap holds. If we are actually serious about 2026 then it's unlikely we sign him.

Bummer. I really like Mitchel as long term solution at pg.

They will 100% try to keep him lol

[al bondiga]

I have a very strong feeling that we are not trading in the off-season, but going the free agent route And if bam, herro, ware, mitchell ...continue their slow development no big free agents are being acquired either

arisons Are not giving up even one cent...recuperating time

[marson]

I have a very strong feeling that we are not trading in the off-season, but going the free agent route And if bam, herro, ware, mitchell ...continue their slow development no big free agents are being acquired either

arisons Are not giving up even one cent...recuperating time

Rozier will definitely be gone, much like Lowry. Whether it's in the off-season, before the deadline, or just as a salary filler for another player, that $26 million expiring contract will provide significant cap relief for many teams. I'd be happy if we could at least get a second-round pick in return.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I have a very strong feeling that we are not trading in the off-season, but going the free agent route And if bam, herro, ware, mitchell ...continue their slow development no big free agents are being acquired either

arisons Are not giving up even one cent...recuperating time

We don’t have any money to pursue free agents other then our own and some cap gymnastics need to be done in order to get a good number below the tax line in order to retain Mitchell in free agency who will be a RFA.

Duncan will have to renegotiate his ETO or else he’ll be walking as his 10 million non guaranteed is needed to get below the line in order to compete with resigning Mitchell and staying below the line to avoid the heavy repeater tax. They are only 2 million from getting under this year but once Burks is off the books and the slight increase next year should give us the wiggle room we need.

Duncan either gets released next year and he gets his 9 mil guaranteed and free to sign anywhere else while he carry the 10 mil in dead money for a year or we negotiate with Duncan on a two year 18-20 mil deal with team option. Most likely he renegotiates and we get the wiggle room we need to sign Mitchell and our draft pick.

Outside improvements will be made via trade by first dangling the expiring’s of Rozier and Anderson with young assets such JJJ, Jovic, and 2025 pick after selection made. If a bigger deal is made for a star player Wiggins may need to be involved. If no star player is involved just keep maintaining flexibility and adding pieces that may help but maintain flexibility in 2026 that includes a deal for players like Sexton and Collins.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[batterybro42]

I think it’s very possible this team finishes the year well and can beat anybody in the East in a 7 game series aside from Boston.

We are a very strange team, but if Spo can get a handle on things he could make this team really hard to beat in the playoffs.

[3ballbomber]

Seems Phoenix fell apart after getting Beal. Heat dodged a bullet there with that stat guy.

Some people here were still talking themselves into him just a few weeks ago.

I think it’s Beal being in an environment where he’s not able to thrive, especially playing nxt to Book & Kd - He becomes redundant. Make no mistake about it, had we signed him, w/ his skillset, we wld maximise him the same w/ every other player we’ve acquired. Suns, like many are a bad organisation. Even Booker is wasting away there & kd wants out. Nobody is improving there.

[3ballbomber]

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I agree. But if true, u can look at it this way. If you allow your best player to eat junk food on a team plane, u gotta allow other players to do the same. You can't have two different sets of rules. That's the culture. I'm sure he didn't care about LeBron, who spends millions on his body to stay in the best shape, indulging in some cookies in his private time n space. Looks stupid, I agree. But I wouldn't say insane when the whole team is about the "Culture"

I see what you’re saying, but I think It’s kinda nuts any way you look at it because you already have measures in place to monitor food consumption. If you eat 10 chocolate chip cookies a week but you can still pass the body fat and fitness tests, then what are they actually doing by taking that man’s cookies? If he fails the body fat test, that is where you set the example for the rest of the team.

I agree. I know their physical condition is directly linked to their performance as athletes. But I find it weird treating grown men with children like toddlers. I think the other measures are more effective rather than being super control freak. If the player has a low fat index, great conditioning & cardio and is performing at a high level, let him have his cookies.

This is why Pat runs this team & fans dont. We were focused on Championships & winning. You don’t make those moves w/out accomplishing great things. Sacrifice short term. They’re just cookies. You can eat a lifetime of them later. These are millionaires w/ lots of other pleasures. If getting ya damn cookies taken away is going to get you mad then you need to grow the f*ck up.

2 out of 4 ‘ships including vs a young, inexperienced OKC team & a lucky win vs Spurs whom demolished them a season after, while having prime Wade was failure regardless of the 2 you won. That team shld have won EVERY SINGLE Finals. Pat has a right to take away what ever he damn near wants.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Seems Phoenix fell apart after getting Beal. Heat dodged a bullet there with that stat guy.

Some people here were still talking themselves into him just a few weeks ago.

I think it’s Beal being an environment where he’s not able to thrive playing nxt to Book & Kd. He becomes redundant. Make no mistake about it, had we signed him, w/ his skillset, we wld maximise him the same w/ every other player we’ve acquired. Suns, like many are a bad organisation. Even Booker is wasting away there & kd wants out. Nobody is improving there.

Beal would have had the same issues here being redundant with Herro. Suns have a major roster construction problem and Beal is untradeable. That teams needs a big defensive point forward for any shot at making Beal and Booker work.

[3ballbomber]

Duncan is going to extend at 9 mil per next year that allows the team to resign Mitchell and stay under the line. It will mirror the Buddy Hield deal. Rozier, Anderson, and JJJ will be fished in trade for some more upgrades.

I nvr hated on Dunc. In a legit contending squad he becomes dangerous! Keep him!

[3ballbomber]

Some people here were still talking themselves into him just a few weeks ago.

I think it’s Beal being an environment where he’s not able to thrive playing nxt to Book & Kd. He becomes redundant. Make no mistake about it, had we signed him, w/ his skillset, we wld maximise him the same w/ every other player we’ve acquired. Suns, like many are a bad organisation. Even Booker is wasting away there & kd wants out. Nobody is improving there.

Beal would have had the same issues here being redundant with Herro. Suns have a major roster construction problem and Beal is untradeable. That teams needs a big defensive point forward for any shot at making Beal and Booker work.

We needed firepower. We could’ve made it work here. Jimmy wasn’t an offensive juggernaut & w/ Bam’s lack of aggression on offense having Beal wld have helped w/ the needed scoring. Once Jimmy was traded Beal may have been even more valuable. Having all Book, KD & Beal in one team is complete overkill. It is a luxury that couldn’t work. Beal here wld’ve been a necessity.