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Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To

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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1041 » by QUIZ » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:27 pm

I haven't heard anything about Josh Jackson. Most of the talk has been about the guards, Fultz, DSJ, Ball, and Monk.

How has he looked?
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1042 » by Cmon_Son-_- » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:32 pm

Miami is doing a great job containing smith in the first half. Only 5 pts from him also the man he's guarding Jaquan newton has 15.


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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1043 » by Cmon_Son-_- » Sun Jan 1, 2017 12:12 am

Phone died during the game but Dennis smith came on late when Miami was already coasting but he had a couple plays that really showed how good he is.


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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1044 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Sun Jan 1, 2017 12:41 am

Monk had a 34 point game a couple of days ago. If we were to draft him we got to unlock his PG skills or trade JRich or TJ.
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1045 » by Bishop45 » Sun Jan 1, 2017 12:59 am

Least Giles is running better, Imma' root for him. Bolden not playing very well I'd guess





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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1046 » by DayofMourning » Sun Jan 1, 2017 1:20 am

Wow, Duke highlights up already? Frankie Vision is serious.
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1047 » by Bishop45 » Sun Jan 1, 2017 2:07 am

QUIZ wrote:I haven't heard anything about Josh Jackson. Most of the talk has been about the guards, Fultz, DSJ, Ball, and Monk.

How has he looked?


Haven't watched any games, from highlights, #'s, seems like a wing Josh Smith (Not a bad comp. if JSmooth could've reached his ceiling)
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1048 » by UD4MVP » Sun Jan 1, 2017 4:07 am

You guys think Monk could make the transition to being a PG in the NBA? He can definitely handle in transition, but I'm curious if he could ever be a pick and roll ball handler and distributor
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1049 » by Feel_the_Heat15 » Sun Jan 1, 2017 6:14 am

UD4MVP wrote:You guys think Monk could make the transition to being a PG in the NBA? He can definitely handle in transition, but I'm curious if he could ever be a pick and roll ball handler and distributor


I most likely think he won't but as long as he can give you 23+ ppg who cares? As long as you have a great ball-handler on the court, a non-traditional PG won't harm you much as long as they can score.

My draft rankings:
1.Fultz
2.Smith
3.Jackson
4.Monk
5.Ball
6.Tatum
7.Markkanen
8.Issac
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1050 » by RJM » Sun Jan 1, 2017 4:44 pm

QUIZ wrote:I haven't heard anything about Josh Jackson. Most of the talk has been about the guards, Fultz, DSJ, Ball, and Monk.

How has he looked?


He's looked pretty good for the most part. Had a rough outing the other night with only 4 points, 3 rebounds, and 2 assists. Played only 13 minutes before fouling out. Other than that, he's putting up a decent 14-6-3. Did well at UNLV last week.



There's a reason I want him on this team next season. Big star potential (nothing against Fultz).

This person is already drafted, but I wish there was some way Miami could acquire Skal Labissiere without giving up too much. I was so disappointed when Sacramento (not Toronto) drafted him last summer.



Hopefully there's some way Riley can dupe Kings management into giving him up for next to nothing. I feel like Spoelstra will be able to develop the hell out of him as a do-everything stretch four next to Whiteside.
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1051 » by cyclix » Sun Jan 1, 2017 5:21 pm

Josh Jackson can reach Orlando TMac potential. He is that good IMO. He is just playing like Raptors TMac right now, but put him
in a better system to showcase his talents and you will see the real Josh Jackson. He and Fultz are still in a class of their own in this draft IMO.
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Post#1052 » by twix2500 » Sun Jan 1, 2017 6:49 pm

Rafly wrote:THoughts on Tyler Lydon?

My dream scenario has always been adding another 1st and getting both Fultz and Markkanen. But yea not gonna happen as both are top 10 picks. I can see Fultz and Lydon though.

Strictly a shooter. Doesn't appear to have the frame to defend the post or the athleticism. A better shooting Babbit?

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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1053 » by UD4MVP » Sun Jan 1, 2017 8:06 pm

DSJ shooting numbers are on a upward trend he's now at 45% from the field and and 39% from 3 and he looks more explosive as the season goes by.
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1054 » by UD4MVP » Sun Jan 1, 2017 8:23 pm

I think the big drop off is after the 6th pick Fultz DSJ Ball JJ Monk and Tatum. I think guys like Isaac, Markannen, OG etc are pretty good but I think those first 6 are the most NBA ready to be stars. Consider also whatever spot you're in the lottery odds, you can fall as much as 3 spots back. So if we're the worst team we could fall back to the 4th pick (wont be too bad since we could still end up with a good player from any of those 6) and if we're like 5th worst we could jump back to the 8th pick.
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1055 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Jan 1, 2017 8:32 pm

Bishop45 wrote:Least Giles is running better, Imma' root for him. Bolden not playing very well I'd guess







For such a horrible game from Duke on Saturday. Tatum looked good. Made a couple 3s, played good defense, rebounded missed a few shots ge usually doesn't miss like a couple FTs.

Giles moved much better and started to show how great of a rebounder he is, 8 boards in just 13 minutes.

Luke was Luke. Everything else was just a compete **** show. I know this is weird to say but it is clear this is a very poorly coached team. No flow at all, Bolden has been horrible but it's hard to get into a flow of the game when you only get 2-3 minutes a game.
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1056 » by UD4MVP » Sun Jan 1, 2017 10:11 pm

Also I gotta say DSJ is really crafty as a finisher. It's not just his explosiveness he's really good using both hands and has great touch on his finishes. He's really not getting the attention like other prospects despite being projected so high. Draftexpress has like no articles on him at all. I guess cause guys like Fultz and Ball are so unique with their measurables that DSJ isn't getting that kind of attention
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1057 » by UD4MVP » Sun Jan 1, 2017 10:40 pm

Thoughts on Dwayne Bacon? Maybe it's time for a Dwayne and not Dwyane.
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1058 » by Bishop45 » Mon Jan 2, 2017 12:30 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
Bishop45 wrote:Least Giles is running better, Imma' root for him. Bolden not playing very well I'd guess







For such a horrible game from Duke on Saturday. Tatum looked good. Made a couple 3s, played good defense, rebounded missed a few shots ge usually doesn't miss like a couple FTs.

Giles moved much better and started to show how great of a rebounder he is, 8 boards in just 13 minutes.

Luke was Luke. Everything else was just a compete **** show. I know this is weird to say but it is clear this is a very poorly coached team. No flow at all, Bolden has been horrible but it's hard to get into a flow of the game when you only get 2-3 minutes a game.


2-3 mins has to be a hard reality for a top recruit and potential one and done
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1059 » by RJM » Mon Jan 2, 2017 12:56 am

UD4MVP wrote:Thoughts on Dwayne Bacon? Maybe it's time for a Dwayne and not Dwyane.


Eh. I'm good on anyone with anything similar to that name for a while. Sour taste in my mouth.

But seriously, he's someone that will likely sneak into the late-first round. He's ranked in the high 50s on DX right now, but I suspect that will change during the combines and pre-draft workouts. These things happen this way.
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Re: Official 2017 Draft Thread - Something Positive To Look Forward To 

Post#1060 » by leoshes » Mon Jan 2, 2017 1:32 am

Washington State vs Washington 8:30 tonight.

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