**NBA Draft Discussion 2025**
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Seabass777 wrote:twix2500 wrote:lastb1ckman wrote:Tbh, im not sure of Jovic's role in the future. He isn't a C, so he can't play back up C, but idk if he's good enough with the ball in his hands to invest in that. But that's where he's most effective.
Like how can he exist next to guys like Bam and Herro or whoever we develop that are better than him on offense without reducing him to 3&D guy?
Jovic has played center. The Heat have been developing him to show versatily to exploit matchups. He is a 6'10 wing versatile developing wing. He has absolutely shown very good offensive talent. His biggest problems is his mental lapses, you can obvious see the lack of maturity because he is very inexerienced. They have shown him a lot of different looks and it should pay off at the end. Which stumbling should have been expected. IMO he is ahead of the curve. I didnt expect him to start getting mins until this season. He was a very raw player and is still very raw.
Jovic is not a center. He was forced to play Center a couple years back, it’s just not his position. Jimmy Butler had to vouch for him and yell out to the media, and the coaching staff, that he’s not a 5 so quit playing him at the 5.
Jovic’s best position is as a ball handler, and as a wing. He’s a point forward, that’s how we maximize him and get the best out of him. Any other position for him and it’s just gonna be a square peg and a round hole type of situation.
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He can play the 5 in certain matchups. A lot players play the 5 and are not natural 5s. The goal is to make him versatile as much as you can, so he can learn how to exploit matchups. Versatility, the ability to move around and not be fixated to one area of the court is extremely important. Jovic is 6’11 it’s important to teach him how to leverage his height.
I don’t know why you posted a tweet of a podcaster from lock on Heat. I hold your basketball analysis opinion higher than theirs.
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twix2500 wrote:Seabass777 wrote:twix2500 wrote:
Jovic has played center. The Heat have been developing him to show versatily to exploit matchups. He is a 6'10 wing versatile developing wing. He has absolutely shown very good offensive talent. His biggest problems is his mental lapses, you can obvious see the lack of maturity because he is very inexerienced. They have shown him a lot of different looks and it should pay off at the end. Which stumbling should have been expected. IMO he is ahead of the curve. I didnt expect him to start getting mins until this season. He was a very raw player and is still very raw.
Jovic is not a center. He was forced to play Center a couple years back, it’s just not his position. Jimmy Butler had to vouch for him and yell out to the media, and the coaching staff, that he’s not a 5 so quit playing him at the 5.
Jovic’s best position is as a ball handler, and as a wing. He’s a point forward, that’s how we maximize him and get the best out of him. Any other position for him and it’s just gonna be a square peg and a round hole type of situation.
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He can play the 5 in certain matchups. A lot players play the 5 and are not natural 5s. The goal is to make him versatile as much as you can, so he can learn how to exploit matchups. Versatility, the ability to move around and not be fixated to one area of the court is extremely important. Jovic is 6’11 it’s important to teach him how to leverage his height.
I don’t know why you posted a tweet of a podcaster from lock on Heat. I hold your basketball analysis opinion higher than theirs.
Nikola Jovic expressed frustration with his role at the time when the Heat tried to use him as a Center. He expressed his frustrations to a Serbian reporter about this at that time.
Versatility is good to a point, but if it comes at the detriment of being able to maximize a players strengths, that’s where the line is drawn. Niko’s gift lies in his playing making ability, his ability to push the pace, and his floor spacing capabilities.
Sometimes in basketball it’s very simple, you are what you are, and Niko is not a center. I posted that tweet, to give evidence of Jimmy Butler going to bat for Niko, conveying to the Heat coaching staff via the media that Niko wasn’t a 5, so they needed to stop playing him at the 5.
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Seabass777 wrote:twix2500 wrote:Seabass777 wrote:
Jovic is not a center. He was forced to play Center a couple years back, it’s just not his position. Jimmy Butler had to vouch for him and yell out to the media, and the coaching staff, that he’s not a 5 so quit playing him at the 5.
Jovic’s best position is as a ball handler, and as a wing. He’s a point forward, that’s how we maximize him and get the best out of him. Any other position for him and it’s just gonna be a square peg and a round hole type of situation.
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He can play the 5 in certain matchups. A lot players play the 5 and are not natural 5s. The goal is to make him versatile as much as you can, so he can learn how to exploit matchups. Versatility, the ability to move around and not be fixated to one area of the court is extremely important. Jovic is 6’11 it’s important to teach him how to leverage his height.
I don’t know why you posted a tweet of a podcaster from lock on Heat. I hold your basketball analysis opinion higher than theirs.
Nikola Jovic expressed frustration with his role at the time when the Heat tried to use him as a Center. He expressed his frustrations to a Serbian reporter about this at that time.
Versatility is good to a point, but if it comes at the detriment of being able to maximize a players strengths, that’s where the line is drawn. Niko’s gift lies in his playing making ability, his ability to push the pace, and his floor spacing capabilities.
Sometimes in basketball it’s very simple, you are what you are, and Niko is not a center. I posted that tweet, to give evidence of Jimmy Butler going to bat for Niko, conveying to the Heat coaching staff via the media that Niko wasn’t a 5, so they needed to stop playing him at the 5.
And based on track record for 27th picks in the draft, you contend that Jovic has failed to be set up for (or find) NBA success to this point in time (at age 21)?
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greg4012 wrote:Seabass777 wrote:twix2500 wrote:
He can play the 5 in certain matchups. A lot players play the 5 and are not natural 5s. The goal is to make him versatile as much as you can, so he can learn how to exploit matchups. Versatility, the ability to move around and not be fixated to one area of the court is extremely important. Jovic is 6’11 it’s important to teach him how to leverage his height.
I don’t know why you posted a tweet of a podcaster from lock on Heat. I hold your basketball analysis opinion higher than theirs.
Nikola Jovic expressed frustration with his role at the time when the Heat tried to use him as a Center. He expressed his frustrations to a Serbian reporter about this at that time.
Versatility is good to a point, but if it comes at the detriment of being able to maximize a players strengths, that’s where the line is drawn. Niko’s gift lies in his playing making ability, his ability to push the pace, and his floor spacing capabilities.
Sometimes in basketball it’s very simple, you are what you are, and Niko is not a center. I posted that tweet, to give evidence of Jimmy Butler going to bat for Niko, conveying to the Heat coaching staff via the media that Niko wasn’t a 5, so they needed to stop playing him at the 5.
And based on track record for 27th picks in the draft, you contend that Jovic has failed to be set up for (or find) NBA success to this point in time (at age 21)?
I dont think he's a disappointment based on the typical 27th pick, in fact he's got plenty of ceiling left. What needs to happen is 1 have a healthy season, 2 a solid role, and 3 don't add more to the log jam. If no KD trade happens, get rid of wiggins and have a youth season. Maybe Mitchell, Herro, Jovic, Bam, Ware. With Jaime as 6th man. Larrson and the rookie off the bench
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If Jase Richardson is on the board at 20 will be very interesting how he test out with us. He’s represented by Jeff Schwartz at Excel. Very friendly Heat agent.
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Herro would certainly appreciate that in the back court. Don't have to take half the team's 3s lol
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Hallstar wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Herro would certainly appreciate that in the back court. Don't have to take half the team's 3s lol
Another 3 point shooter that can handle is an absolute must add in this backcourt.
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Hallstar wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Herro would certainly appreciate that in the back court. Don't have to take half the team's 3s lol
Another 3 point shooter that can handle is an absolute must add in this backcourt.
I wonder who is the better shooter Jase Richardson or Walter Clayton? Jase is more efficient, but Clayton took a much higher volume and higher difficulty of shots and was still efficient.
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lastb1ckman wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:Hallstar wrote:Herro would certainly appreciate that in the back court. Don't have to take half the team's 3s lol
Another 3 point shooter that can handle is an absolute must add in this backcourt.
I wonder who is the better shooter Jase Richardson or Walter Clayton? Jase is more efficient, but Clayton took a much higher volume and higher difficulty of shots and was still efficient.
Jase might have the higher ceiling at only 19.
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:If Jase Richardson is on the board at 20 will be very interesting how he test out with us. He’s represented by Jeff Schwartz at Excel. Very friendly Heat agent.
At 20, I would love it. Good combo guard that probably has real opportunity to emerge as a premier 6th man in the league. Still some upside/hope for him to evolve more as a PG at the NBA level.
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lastb1ckman wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:Hallstar wrote:Herro would certainly appreciate that in the back court. Don't have to take half the team's 3s lol
Another 3 point shooter that can handle is an absolute must add in this backcourt.
I wonder who is the better shooter Jase Richardson or Walter Clayton? Jase is more efficient, but Clayton took a much higher volume and higher difficulty of shots and was still efficient.
Clayton is def more of a gunner at this stage. Jase is very selective (and may be less capable in terms of getting off as many looks).
Jase was at 39% 3PRate as a freshman, getting off 7.3 3PAs per 100 possessions. WCJ exceeded both those numbers each of his 4 seasons.
I've got Jase higher on my board and would root for Miami to take a shot on his upside over WCJ, but both would be nice additions ot the squad.
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greg4012 wrote:lastb1ckman wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:Another 3 point shooter that can handle is an absolute must add in this backcourt.
I wonder who is the better shooter Jase Richardson or Walter Clayton? Jase is more efficient, but Clayton took a much higher volume and higher difficulty of shots and was still efficient.
Clayton is def more of a gunner at this stage. Jase is very selective (and may be less capable in terms of getting off as many looks).
Jase was at 39% 3PRate as a freshman, getting off 7.3 3PAs per 100 possessions. WCJ exceeded both those numbers each of his 4 seasons.
I've got Jase higher on my board and would root for Miami to take a shot on his upside over WCJ, but both would be nice additions ot the squad.
What do you think is Jase's potential?
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twix2500 wrote:greg4012 wrote:lastb1ckman wrote:
I wonder who is the better shooter Jase Richardson or Walter Clayton? Jase is more efficient, but Clayton took a much higher volume and higher difficulty of shots and was still efficient.
Clayton is def more of a gunner at this stage. Jase is very selective (and may be less capable in terms of getting off as many looks).
Jase was at 39% 3PRate as a freshman, getting off 7.3 3PAs per 100 possessions. WCJ exceeded both those numbers each of his 4 seasons.
I've got Jase higher on my board and would root for Miami to take a shot on his upside over WCJ, but both would be nice additions ot the squad.
What do you think is Jase's potential?
One of the hardest players for me to gauge potential for. I was always uncomfortable with Jase when Miami was talking lottery pick bc his upside cases are harder to get behind given (1) his size and (2) the fact that he didn't create as much offense as I need to see for a player his size.
Jase has some truly special touch and ability to leverage advantage and operate in small pockets of the court. How he finishes at all 3 levels can't be dismissed. He's also shown enough positive flashes as a pick n roll ballhandler to hope that he can develop more on-ball. He just plays smart and rarely makes mistakes while capitalizing on all advantages created. But, I don't know if he's a reliable enough advantage creator himself. If he can expand on that, then we could talk real starting PG game.
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Saraf and Jase both with CAA. Website i visited yesterday had Jase with Excel(Jeff Schwartz). Current CAA clients we have are Wiggins and Jaquez.
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Saraf and Jase both with CAA. Website i visited yesterday had Jase with Excel(Jeff Schwartz). Current CAA clients we have are Wiggins and Jaquez.
Damn CAA, stop selling us on duds (only kind of kidding)
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Walter Clayton J reminds me of typical senior star that killed it in college against younger kids but will be eaten alive when faced with bigger, quicker stronger guards in the NBA.
He doesn't have the size, athleticism (or vision to compensate for the lack of these) to be a legit starting PG.
A career backup is not what we should aim for.
He doesn't have the size, athleticism (or vision to compensate for the lack of these) to be a legit starting PG.
A career backup is not what we should aim for.
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