Miami Heat Speculation Thread - 2020 and beyond...

[3ballbomber]

Millsap held AD to 30% shooting in the playoffs on 9/30 from the field. He also shot 43.5% frm the arc.

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Movie in the works 'Greek Freak' on the life of Giannis & fam.

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Matthews sounds more like a backup plan if Crowder gets a multi year deal elsewhere. Milsap left a bad taste in my mouth watching the WCF, he didnt play with any toughness. This might be the best we can do to plug and play until next summer.

mMilsap is 36 Yo. He's done. Bad move.

Just overpay for a year of Crowder if those 2 has-beens are the best we can find.

Really hate this line of thinking.

We need to focus on adding 1 needle mover, not on fake old depth.

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Matthews sounds more like a backup plan if Crowder gets a multi year deal elsewhere. Milsap left a bad taste in my mouth watching the WCF, he didnt play with any toughness. This might be the best we can do to plug and play until next summer.

mMilsap is 36 Yo. He's done. Bad move.

Just overpay for a year of Crowder if those 2 has-beens are the best we can find.

Really hate this line of thinking.

We need to focus on adding 1 needle mover, not on fake old depth.

I agree but not sure there’s a real needle mover out there this free agency period. Like i’ve been saying, the ceiling next year is how far does Bam develop.

[Slot Machine]

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Matthews sounds more like a backup plan if Crowder gets a multi year deal elsewhere. Milsap left a bad taste in my mouth watching the WCF, he didnt play with any toughness. This might be the best we can do to plug and play until next summer.

Gross. Reminds me of that 2014 summer where we brought in McBob and Granger

[jaseda510]

Gross. Reminds me of that 2014 summer where we brought in McBob and Granger

That was the second worse offseason ever. 2016 took the cake when we lost Wade

Assuming Jae leaves for a multi-year offer (I don't blame him at all), Millsap would be a decent placeholder. Have him play 20-25 min a game and either bring KZ off the bench or another big.

[twix2500]

If we resign Crowder to a multi year deal. Do you think he is untradable? Or you shelled shocked by how bad Whiteside, JJ and Waiters trade value was.

Crowder will have value around the league.

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[Wiltside]

Can't risk not having a max slot due to paying someone like Crowder, who I like, but is replaceable. Yes, he could probably be moved, but it's risky. If he has a down year, or gets injured, we're stuck with that one and have to move someone else.

I wouldn't be so quick to write off Millsap. Yes, he's old af, but the dude still averaged 11.6ppg, 5.7rpg, 1.6apg, 0.9spg, 0.6bpg, 1.4tpg in 24.3mpg on 48%fg and 1.1 treys on 43.5%. I'd imagine we'd get him shooting more threes, but that kind of production should be sustainable for him next year. He still provides solid vet play and leadership. He's no world beater and he's not the player he was 5-6 years ago, but he's OK.

We could certainly do worse, but it really comes down to what some of the better FA's are willing to accept in a really uncertain period.

E.g. Would Montrezl Harrell accept a 1yr MLE deal to rehab his value after a poor bubble showing? Not the best fit with Bam, but he produces when on the court and can come off the bench.

Does Gallo think similarly? Different strengths and weaknesses to Harrell, but would fit well offensively.

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I haven't been over there but how much you wanna bet they think they getting 3 players and a all-star for Oladipo. Fan boys are funny. I remember all those Ludacris trades the Timberwolves thought they would get for Jimmy Butler and all they got was two role players.

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[Wiltside]

This is probably my confirmation bias sinking in, but did anyone else see the headlines about us going 'all in' on Giannis, closely followed by headlines of Dallas saying they're looking for a 3rd star and are willing to take on long term salary to get it?

Reading between the lines, to me it kinda seemed like Dallas enquired about Giannis and his 2021 plans and got shot down, so they're moving on to Plan B to find the right fit alongside KP and Luka.

I guess we'll see how keen Dallas truly are to take on long term salary and forgo a max slot in 2021, but I just thought it was interesting

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[Bishop45]

Millsaps old af, but he got some moves. If it's a Millsap or Boogie type of deal, Vote 4 Milsap

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Bucks looking a little desperate right now.

Given the rehab job that CP3 just did on his value despite his contract, Presti will likely extort them for either more picks to add to his Smaugesque treasure trove, or dump whatever bad money OKC has on them (Adams?).

The easiest one to acquire might well be DeRozan, but his lack of shooting may well impact the Bucks adversely given Giannis' range issues.

I also don't really see why the Spurs would take on long term money in Bledsoe (who doesn't fit their needs given they have Murray and Derrick White already), and Brook Lopez (has 3 years on his contract) when pretty much all their big contracts (DeRozan, Aldridge, Mills, Gay) expire at the end of this season. They'll have cash to spend in 2021, and can do better than Bled and Lopez.

The only piece I could see San Antonio interested in is DiVincenzo, but even then, is taking on Bledsoe and Lopez worth Dante? Don't think so.

[MiamiSun]

In a perfect world Steven Adams stays put and comes to Miami along with Giannis. I would love to see Giannis dunk all over the Lakers while Adams lays the smackdown on defense to anyone coming into the paint.

[RexBoyWonder]

Can't risk not having a max slot due to paying someone like Crowder, who I like, but is replaceable. Yes, he could probably be moved, but it's risky. If he has a down year, or gets injured, we're stuck with that one and have to move someone else.

I wouldn't be so quick to write off Millsap. Yes, he's old af, but the dude still averaged 11.6ppg, 5.7rpg, 1.6apg, 0.9spg, 0.6bpg, 1.4tpg in 24.3mpg on 48%fg and 1.1 treys on 43.5%. I'd imagine we'd get him shooting more threes, but that kind of production should be sustainable for him next year. He still provides solid vet play and leadership. He's no world beater and he's not the player he was 5-6 years ago, but he's OK.

We could certainly do worse, but it really comes down to what some of the better FA's are willing to accept in a really uncertain period.

E.g. Would Montrezl Harrell accept a 1yr MLE deal to rehab his value after a poor bubble showing? Not the best fit with Bam, but he produces when on the court and can come off the bench.

Does Gallo think similarly? Different strengths and weaknesses to Harrell, but would fit well offensively.

1. Agreed on Crowder. We have his bird rights, and we should operate as a team above the cap. So basically we should offer him a ballooned, 1 year overpay, in the 10-14 range. We should NOT offer extra years. If he doesn't take it, move on and adjust, but I think it makes sense for him to take it. (Same with Dragic just higher 1 year deal number BTW).


2. I think Milsap is the lazy choice. He's established, he used to be good. But realistically he's 36 YO and looked horrible in the bubble. We should do better.

The free agent market is depressed right now, most teams has very little $$$ to offer with the cap not rising as once expected. A lot of non contending teams are in savings mode. This means good teams in attractive destinations (meaning us) could have a rare chance to add high level talent for mediocre salary.

Some of the guys that might decide to take a 1 year discount deal and re-enter free agency next year (when more teams will have cap space and the cap will probably jump back up) are :

Danilo Gallinari (Been a game changer in his 2 last teams, borderline all-star offensively).
Christian Wood (If we can sell him on having a big role on a contending team for a year)
Aron Baynes
Serge Ibaka (If Raptors take a step back)
Dario Saric

I'd take all of them + Crowder before I take the retirement tour with Milsap.

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[RexBoyWonder]

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He's gonna bust

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