Heat@Knicks 3/3/13 1pm EST ABC

[mopper8]

I feel like Battier never takes out of rhythm shots anymore. Everything is open in the corner off a nice kick out or swing pass. He's just in a great flow and isn't ruining it by getting aggressive and taking bad shots, which most players tend to do when they're on a roll

[Lord Hades]

Damn I swear nothing is more better than seeing Knicks fans b###h & whine on their board after each loss...

Its what I live for bro.

It's absolutely delicious over there. The hate flows so freely; Woodson, JR, Carmelo, Bron, Heat fans, the refs, the vacating Pope, the ozone layer, the Dodo for being extinct, the tuna casserole Aunt Sally made last Wednesday. So much hate.

So thoroughly enjoying it all.

[Vertical Limit]

Putting stats aside, and going by my eyes Battier is the second best three point shooter in the game only behind Curry.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I feel like Battier never takes out of rhythm shots anymore. Everything is open in the corner off a nice kick out or swing pass. He's just in a great flow and isn't ruining it by getting aggressive and taking bad shots, which most players tend to do when they're on a roll

That's true, but then again that describes Battier even when he's on a cold streak, he's never a guy who will look for his shot or take something other than an open 3, unless the shot clock is winding down. I'd say he's just on a good run.

He's kind of the opposite of Ray though when it comes to shooting, he's only good wide open with time to gather and shoot, whereas Ray hits those crazy in your face .5 second release type shots.

[RexBoyWonder]

Damn I swear nothing is more better than seeing Knicks fans b###h & whine on their board after each loss...

Its what I live for bro.

After a long day of work, I'm am going to soak myself in a nice bath filled with Knick fans's tears

SALTY...

[AAAAA1]

Ive never seen so many knicks fans cry, I mean the Refs gifted them so many times and they think its still rigged hahahahaha

[homecourtloss]

The weak competition Jordan faced in the East was at an all time low with the expansions teams etc, but the marketing gurus and needs to have a merchandise GOAT made him into some type of Chuck Norris mythical player.

"Jordan can do no wrong" or "my Jordan can beat your God" lol

Very true. The Jazz weren't stiff competition either. Yes, they took good shots and were a smart team, but Stockton and Malone were as old as balls by then.

Another thing about Jordan: as the league got more physical and overall athleticism surged, Jordan's FG% dropped. After the '91-'92 season, he never shot 50% again. He shot well over 50% during the "run-and-gun" days as well as during the '91-92 season when play started to slow down, but when the league slowed down as a whole, no more 50% shooting as he couldn't get into the lane as easily and had to take more jumpshots as he got older.

The statistics don't like about all that he's done and where he stands, but the myths about "Jordan won every time," "Jordan never allowed X, Y, Z" to happen, etc., are nonsense. If you let someone such as LeBron play in a wide-open league with so much space to work in, no zones allowed, physically weaker players, etc., such as the one Jordan played in from '85-'90, no telling what LBJ's numbers would be like.

[xStanton27]

Wow. You guys are blessed. You were down 10, no panic, and I never doubted you were going to win. I hope one day I can feel that way with the Raptors. LOL.

Thank you. I know we're blessed.

As long as its within 10 at the start of the 4th i'm honestly never concerned. And we had it within 4 starting the 4th.

I really never worry for this team anymore. I EXPECT to win every game.

[homecourtloss]

After a long day of work, I'm am going to soak myself in a nice bath filled with Knick fans's tears[/quote]

[DWadeno3]

You laugh about the Knicks fans b****ing, yet all you do is b**** about the refs and Jordan. I didn't think Melo received any special calls, he was smart at drawing fouls and that's how he earned his trips to the free throw line. Wade and James both didn't really drive much and when they did, they usually kicked the ball back out, so there weren't really many opportunities for them to go the line.
Regarding Jordan, you're as much of a joke as those trying to discredit LeBron. Just cut the bulls***, he was a unique player no matter what way you put it. I don't consider him the GOAT, because I don't just see one greatest player of all times since man of the greats could make a case for it, but Jordan was a unique player. Aside of that, I don't get how people always compare LeBron to him when LeBron is closer to Magic in terms of playing style than Jordan.

[fast-break]

You laugh about the Knicks fans b****ing, yet all you do is b**** about the refs and Jordan. I didn't think Melo received any special calls, he was smart at drawing fouls and that's how he earned his trips to the free throw line. Wade and James both didn't really drive much and when they did, they usually kicked the ball back out, so there weren't really many opportunities for them to go the line.
Regarding Jordan, you're as much of a joke as those trying to discredit LeBron. Just cut the bulls***, he was a unique player no matter what way you put it. I don't consider him the GOAT, because I don't just see one greatest player of all times since man of the greats could make a case for it, but Jordan was a unique player. Aside of that, I don't get how people always compare LeBron to him when LeBron is closer to Magic in terms of playing style than Jordan.

Lebron isn't compared to Jordan because of "playing style".

[TrueRain]

You laugh about the Knicks fans b****ing, yet all you do is b**** about the refs and Jordan. I didn't think Melo received any special calls, he was smart at drawing fouls and that's how he earned his trips to the free throw line. Wade and James both didn't really drive much and when they did, they usually kicked the ball back out, so there weren't really many opportunities for them to go the line.
Regarding Jordan, you're as much of a joke as those trying to discredit LeBron. Just cut the bulls***, he was a unique player no matter what way you put it. I don't consider him the GOAT, because I don't just see one greatest player of all times since man of the greats could make a case for it, but Jordan was a unique player. Aside of that, I don't get how people always compare LeBron to him when LeBron is closer to Magic in terms of playing style than Jordan.

Calm down.

[Linear Railgun]

Knicks have our number, baby!

[DWadeno3]

You laugh about the Knicks fans b****ing, yet all you do is b**** about the refs and Jordan. I didn't think Melo received any special calls, he was smart at drawing fouls and that's how he earned his trips to the free throw line. Wade and James both didn't really drive much and when they did, they usually kicked the ball back out, so there weren't really many opportunities for them to go the line.
Regarding Jordan, you're as much of a joke as those trying to discredit LeBron. Just cut the bulls***, he was a unique player no matter what way you put it. I don't consider him the GOAT, because I don't just see one greatest player of all times since man of the greats could make a case for it, but Jordan was a unique player. Aside of that, I don't get how people always compare LeBron to him when LeBron is closer to Magic in terms of playing style than Jordan.

Lebron isn't compared to Jordan because of "playing style".

No s***, but comparisons based on awards don't always make sense when a lot of it comes down to being in the right situation at the right time. That's why I prefer to go into statistics/advanced statistics and that's where I think the LeBron/Magic comparison makes more sense, as they were/are both versatile, tall wings with a pass-first mentality.

[dreamchaser]

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNYrMZiKn1U[/youtube]

[fast-break]

You laugh about the Knicks fans b****ing, yet all you do is b**** about the refs and Jordan. I didn't think Melo received any special calls, he was smart at drawing fouls and that's how he earned his trips to the free throw line. Wade and James both didn't really drive much and when they did, they usually kicked the ball back out, so there weren't really many opportunities for them to go the line.
Regarding Jordan, you're as much of a joke as those trying to discredit LeBron. Just cut the bulls***, he was a unique player no matter what way you put it. I don't consider him the GOAT, because I don't just see one greatest player of all times since man of the greats could make a case for it, but Jordan was a unique player. Aside of that, I don't get how people always compare LeBron to him when LeBron is closer to Magic in terms of playing style than Jordan.

Lebron isn't compared to Jordan because of "playing style".

No s***, but comparisons based on awards don't always make sense when a lot of it comes down to being in the right situation at the right time. That's why I prefer to go into statistics/advanced statistics and that's where I think the LeBron/Magic comparison makes more sense, as they were/are both versatile, tall wings with a pass-first mentality.

What do you mean "no ****"? You just said you don't see why they are compared because their playing styles aren't the same. I told you that's not even why they are compared...Also Lebrons a much better scorer than Magic ever was, he's pretty unique in his scoring and playmaking ability. Not sure why you have a problem with Jordan comparisons, it's not about "style of play", its about being the greatest of all time, that's the discussion.

Magic career scoring average 19.5...Lebron 27.6 (so far)

[imchillin]

I could watch the Lebron steal and dunk over and over and over

[DWadeno3]

What do you mean "no ****"? You just said you don't see why they are compared because their playing styles aren't the same. I told you that's not even why they are compared...Also Lebrons a much better scorer than Magic ever was, he's pretty unique in his scoring and playmaking ability. Not sure why you have a problem with Jordan comparisons, it's not about "style of play", its about being the greatest of all time, that's the discussion.

Magic career scoring average 19.5...Lebron 27.6 (so far)

I meant I know they're compared for different reasons than their playing style, I just don't go along with it, just like I don't agree with the "THE GOAT" talk. The comparisons are based on awards, individual accolades and statistics and that's where the non-sense starts because some of it comes down to being in the right situation at the right time.
As far as player comparisons go, I'm still not willing to compare a 6'8 forward to a 6'6 guard. Magic may not have been the scorer LeBron is (although one could argue that part of his relatively low scoring average is based on the teams he was on), but in terms of all-around package, they're more alike then Jordan and LeBron, because Jordan is much more of a score-first type of player in the mold of a Kobe Bryant (as evidenced by his career scoring average), while he's never been the playmaking type of player LeBron is, as evidenced by their difference in career assists per game.

As I stated before, maybe the difference is that I don't believe in the whole "greatest of all-time"-debate, since I believe a lot of a player's success is based on the circumstances he's playing under.

[dreamchaser]

KING...
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26khYhH1LIs[/youtube]

[fast-break]

What do you mean "no ****"? You just said you don't see why they are compared because their playing styles aren't the same. I told you that's not even why they are compared...Also Lebrons a much better scorer than Magic ever was, he's pretty unique in his scoring and playmaking ability. Not sure why you have a problem with Jordan comparisons, it's not about "style of play", its about being the greatest of all time, that's the discussion.

Magic career scoring average 19.5...Lebron 27.6 (so far)

I meant I know they're compared for different reasons than their playing style, I just don't go along with it, just like I don't agree with the "THE GOAT" talk. The comparisons are based on awards, individual accolades and statistics and that's where the non-sense starts because some of it comes down to being in the right situation at the right time.
As far as player comparisons go, I'm still not willing to compare a 6'8 forward to a 6'6 guard. Magic may not have been the scorer LeBron is (although one could argue that part of his relatively low scoring average is based on the teams he was on), but in terms of all-around package, they're more alike then Jordan and LeBron, because Jordan is much more of a score-first type of player in the mold of a Kobe Bryant (as evidenced by his career scoring average), while he's never been the playmaking type of player LeBron is, as evidenced by their difference in career assists per game.

As I stated before, maybe the difference is that I don't believe in the whole "greatest of all-time"-debate, since I believe a lot of a player's success is based on the circumstances he's playing under.

Now you're just kind of rambling. You complain they don't have the same style of play, but again...that's not why they are compared. Lebron's a much better scorer than Magic ever was, and a much better playmaker than Jordan. Lebron has a unique combination of elite SCORING and PLAYMAKING. The dicussion isnt about "style of play", its about being the greatest. You don't like it, too bad. There's still a lot of basketball left to play and a lot left to prove. The discussion won't go away and I'm sorry if you don't understand why it's there, but that's the nature of the sport.