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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1101 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Mar 3, 2025 6:51 pm

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Something was indeed wrong with Ware's knee. Chit we can't catch a break. We don't even have any backup bigs other then the fossil Kevin Love and Kyle Anderson.


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Something was indeed wrong with Ware's knee. Chit we can't catch a break. We don't even have any backup bigs other then the fossil Kevin Love and Kyle Anderson.


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Spo will end up starting Slo Mo tonight with Bam which is fine but now your only backup big is Kevin Love lol. Your only backup PF is the 6'5 Highsmith lol. Maybe just maybe we get a Keshad Johnson sighting
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

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Something was indeed wrong with Ware's knee. Chit we can't catch a break. We don't even have any backup bigs other then the fossil Kevin Love and Kyle Anderson.


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Spo will end up starting Slo Mo tonight with Bam which is fine but now your only backup big is Kevin Love lol. Your only backup PF is the 6'5 Highsmith lol. Maybe just maybe we get a Keshad Johnson sighting


You know he’s been itching to throw Highsmith at the 4. Maybe Wiggins is back tonight (currently questionable).

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

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When Herro doesn't have it that night, he's gotta adapt and become a facilitator instead of a chucker. He has a nice teardrop in the lane and he will be found during ball movements on plays that get him to his hotspots. Gotta trust his teammates, especially Bam.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1105 » by MartyConlonJr » Mon Mar 3, 2025 8:43 pm

For those people that were mulling Herros pull up fast break three last night, I think, good or bad, this is actually part of his evolution as a player this year, was to recognise that he is an elite shooter and not to hesitate when open. We need him to think like this as long as he is squared and open.

Someone mentioned that "when does he make those" but I feel like I've seen him make a lot of them. Would be good to know the percentage and frequency, but wouldn't even know where to look for that kind of stat.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1108 » by VaDe255 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 9:06 pm

MartyConlonJr wrote:For those people that were mulling Herros pull up fast break three last night, I think, good or bad, this is actually part of his evolution as a player this year, was to recognise that he is an elite shooter and not to hesitate when open. We need him to think like this as long as he is squared and open.

Someone mentioned that "when does he make those" but I feel like I've seen him make a lot of them. Would be good to know the percentage and frequency, but wouldn't even know where to look for that kind of stat.


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Herro is doing well in transition, 1.21 PPP is pretty good; Giannis is like 1.23 this year obviously scores way more often but the effectiveness is about the same because Herro does get those open 3s.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1109 » by 3ballbomber » Mon Mar 3, 2025 9:38 pm

dshearn wrote:I don't buy the same old, same old talk about Herro


Clearly he has changed, you can see it on the court.

Traditionally you don't have alot of non-superstar level dudes 25 and under leading to alot of meaningful wins.

Dude has an enormous burden on his shoulders to be productive enough to win. Dude is learning to be a leader, on the fly.




We don't have a Tyler Herro problem, we have a 4th QTR problem because far to often...we ONLY have Tyler Herro.


Again, w/ Heat fans, we continue to overreact after losses. Herro has carried our offence for the most part this season, has shown significant improvements across the board, rewarded by being selected as an allstar, won the 3pt comp…….has few bad gm’s & fans turn on him & label him a horrible player. He has a 30pt gm tonight & opinions flip. Same ol sh*t.

Take away Tyler & we’re lottery bound. Who else gone show up consistently on our roster & perform w/ the burden of scoring while getting scouted, doubled/triple teamed? Let alone being up for the task to the point you become an all-star.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1110 » by 3ballbomber » Mon Mar 3, 2025 9:48 pm

MartyConlonJr wrote:For those people that were mulling Herros pull up fast break three last night, I think, good or bad, this is actually part of his evolution as a player this year, was to recognise that he is an elite shooter and not to hesitate when open. We need him to think like this as long as he is squared and open.

Someone mentioned that "when does he make those" but I feel like I've seen him make a lot of them. Would be good to know the percentage and frequency, but wouldn't even know where to look for that kind of stat.

Fans have amnesia the moment a player has a bad gm. It’ll jog their memory if Herro plays well tonight like he has been for the majority of the season.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1111 » by Bmaster » Mon Mar 3, 2025 10:14 pm

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MartyConlonJr wrote:For those people that were mulling Herros pull up fast break three last night, I think, good or bad, this is actually part of his evolution as a player this year, was to recognise that he is an elite shooter and not to hesitate when open. We need him to think like this as long as he is squared and open.

Someone mentioned that "when does he make those" but I feel like I've seen him make a lot of them. Would be good to know the percentage and frequency, but wouldn't even know where to look for that kind of stat.

Fans have amnesia the moment a player has a bad gm. It’ll jog their memory if Herro plays well tonight like he has been for the majority of the season.



Yeah but 15% from field in OT this season is pretty bad
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1112 » by oreon » Mon Mar 3, 2025 10:27 pm

MartyConlonJr wrote:For those people that were mulling Herros pull up fast break three last night, I think, good or bad, this is actually part of his evolution as a player this year, was to recognise that he is an elite shooter and not to hesitate when open. We need him to think like this as long as he is squared and open.

Someone mentioned that "when does he make those" but I feel like I've seen him make a lot of them. Would be good to know the percentage and frequency, but wouldn't even know where to look for that kind of stat.


I don't mind him taking those shots. He was making them for a majority of the season. I am more concerned why his jump shot keeps dying post all star break seemingly every season. He goes from super elite shooter to average and sometimes below average and his efficiency dips. The team needs to know what kind of shots to expect from him. It can't be 3 point shots for half the season and the rest just twos.
I think at this point its more than mental. Its something with his form. My theory is that he uses a lot his legs shooting to get left. Then as season progresses that lift is gone so his form isn't as good. I think he may need to tweak his form to use less energy or strengthen his legs. I'm an unqualified shooting coach with 0 knowledge. But its the only thing that makes sense. Something with his form deteriorates every midseason.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1113 » by 3ballbomber » Mon Mar 3, 2025 10:48 pm

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MartyConlonJr wrote:For those people that were mulling Herros pull up fast break three last night, I think, good or bad, this is actually part of his evolution as a player this year, was to recognise that he is an elite shooter and not to hesitate when open. We need him to think like this as long as he is squared and open.

Someone mentioned that "when does he make those" but I feel like I've seen him make a lot of them. Would be good to know the percentage and frequency, but wouldn't even know where to look for that kind of stat.

Fans have amnesia the moment a player has a bad gm. It’ll jog their memory if Herro plays well tonight like he has been for the majority of the season.



Yeah but 15% from field in OT this season is pretty bad


I agree. It’s all a learning thing. Has a bad season (not that he’s having one) ever stopped Tyler frm progressing in the following season? He develops & takes leaps w/ each yr. This yr he’s learning to be that guy. That will come w/ bad gm’s, especially when alot of attention on opposing defence is on him. Our coaching staff & Herro will figure it out like they have been.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1114 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Mar 3, 2025 10:49 pm

I don’t mind that shot on a random play in the 2nd quarter, I do mind it in the clutch when you’ve had a terrible game (and are terrible in the clutch this season) when your best player is dominating the game and needs to continue to get touches.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1115 » by 3ballbomber » Mon Mar 3, 2025 11:10 pm

Is this accurate?

“Duncan Robinson has the highest plus/minus for the Heat this season, at +73.”

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/heat-plus-minus-leaders
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1116 » by 3ballbomber » Mon Mar 3, 2025 11:11 pm

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Post#1118 » by 3ballbomber » Mon Mar 3, 2025 11:54 pm

3ballbomber wrote:Is this accurate?

“Duncan Robinson has the highest plus/minus for the Heat this season, at +73.”

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/heat-plus-minus-leaders


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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1119 » by dshearn » Tue Mar 4, 2025 12:06 am

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“Duncan Robinson has the highest plus/minus for the Heat this season, at +73.”

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My memory and the facts might not jive....but I don't remember a lot of post season success without Duncan turning in above average shooting.

I think there are other guys the "won" play off games...Jimmy, Tyler, Bam, Caleb....but I don't know how many of those games end in a win if Duncan turned in average shooter numbers
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8 

Post#1120 » by 3ballbomber » Tue Mar 4, 2025 12:23 am

dshearn wrote:
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3ballbomber wrote:Is this accurate?

“Duncan Robinson has the highest plus/minus for the Heat this season, at +73.”

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/heat-plus-minus-leaders


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My memory and the facts might not jive....but I don't remember a lot of post season success without Duncan turning in above average shooting.

I think there are other guys the "won" play off games...Jimmy, Tyler, Bam, Caleb....but I don't know how many of those games end in a win if Duncan turned in average shooter numbers


He def impacts winning & wouldn’t be surprised majority of po wins he had a good shooting night
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