MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 Vol.4 - Beasley Time

Post #1181 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 2:10 am

We are a backup PG away from a really nice constructed roster.

Bishop45 · Post #1182 » by **Bishop45** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 2:34 am

Lil' disappointed in Blazers and Celtic's; thought them Boyz would be a little more active smh (watch those two be apart of a Sixers/Simmons trade)

Mk613 · Post #1183 » by **Mk613** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 3:39 am

Wiltside wrote:Kinda wish Jimmy agreed to a 2yr extension so he expired at the same time Kyle does, but I guess that’s the price of doing business. Can’t expect him to leave that kinda cash on the table. That’s lifetime multi-generational legacy sorta numbers.

Make he’s so not worth it.. good player but no super star..

Mk613 · Post #1184 » by **Mk613** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 3:41 am

marson wrote:I will keep my expectation low on Yurt but he could be the next Duncan Robinson with us

On the other side of that, I remember Kyle Kuzma tearing up the summer league a few years ago.

A one dimensional player that just got overpaid? :lol:

carnageta · Post #1185 » by **carnageta** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 3:52 am

Maybe Yurt could be our version of Brook Lopez?

Post #1186 » by **Wiltside** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 4:14 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:We are a backup PG away from a really nice constructed roster.

The FO is done with being undersized. We’ll see if Spo is too. We need to just stop with this small ball chit.

BaffLer · Post #1187 » by **BaffLer** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 4:19 am

Edit: Wrong thread

carnageta · Post #1188 » by **carnageta** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 5:11 am

I'm convinced K.Lowry can have a Chris Paul-esque impact on our team. There are very few point guards in the entire league who have a positive ORtg/DRtg ratio (per 100 possessions) year in and year out. Lowry is one of those guys.

Career ORTG DRTG:
Holiday 106/109
Murray 111/113
Dragic 109/110
Kemba 109/109
Westbrook 108/105
Conley 112/108
Irving 114/109
Dame 118/112
Lowry 115/108
Steph 118/107
CP3 123/105

The year he played with Kawhi he put up averages of 14ppg and 9apg (that's also when Siakam blossomed into an elite 2nd option). I expect similar production alongside Jimmy and Bam.

HeatFanLifer · Post #1189 » by **HeatFanLifer** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 6:05 am

Wiltside wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:We are a backup PG away from a really nice constructed roster.

The FO is done with being undersized. We’ll see if Spo is too. We need to just stop with this small ball chit.

Post #1190 » by **Wiltside** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 6:23 am

HeatFanLifer wrote:
Wiltside wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:We are a backup PG away from a really nice constructed roster.

The FO is done with being undersized. We’ll see if Spo is too. We need to just stop with this small ball chit.

I mean we were rolling out Trevor Ariza and Andre Igoudala’s corpses at PF. We were taking the piss smh.

RexBoyWonder · Post #1191 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 6:51 am

carnageta wrote:Maybe Yurt could be our version of Brook Lopez?

Omer isn't as strong at this point.

He has nice offensive versatility, needs to get tougher on defense, work on boxing out, hedging.

What is like it that his rebounding numbers have always been great, going back to Gleague/college.

So a good rebounder that can really shot from outside and has great touch inside...that's a good start.

Work on defense every day until first game.

RexBoyWonder · Post #1192 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 7:17 am

Read on Twitter

a dribble pull up from 12-16 feet could really help his offense, one thing I'm confident about - Duncan will keep trying to ipmrove and grow his game.

Dc__20 · Post #1193 » by **Dc__20** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 10:17 am

RexBoyWonder wrote:

Read on Twitter

a dribble pull up from 12-16 feet could really help his offense, one thing I'm confident about - Duncan will keep trying to ipmrove and grow his game.

Would have been better if he said he wants to get better on D.

dean456 · Post #1194 » by **dean456** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 10:41 am

Dc__20 wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:

Read on Twitter

a dribble pull up from 12-16 feet could really help his offense, one thing I'm confident about - Duncan will keep trying to ipmrove and grow his game.

Would have been better if he said he wants to get better on D.

He's been doing that too. He said he's been working with the same trainer as Jru Holiday and working on his body to make himself more mobile/stronger on that end of the floor.

Watch on YouTube

Talks about it a bit here at 10:30.

HEATVols865 · Post #1195 » by **HEATVols865** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 11:13 am

heat4life wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:

I'm sure, but he has no one to blame but himself for those DNPs. Unless you are saying Spo has a personal vendetta against Nunn?

What about Bjelica? 38% 3pt shooter, comes here and doesn't get any run either.

Spo is just a bad coach.

Word was the Sacramento Kings didn't care much for Bjelica either. Hence why they took our crappy offer. We was just a bad fit in the whole sense of the word. A coach should not be forced to play someone who he is not comfortable playing.

Yet he sure was comfortable playing Mike Bibby, Ilgauskas, Dampier, McGruder…

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HEATVols865 · Post #1196 » by **HEATVols865** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 11:20 am

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
heat4life wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:

What about Bjelica? 38% 3pt shooter, comes here and doesn't get any run either.

Spo is just a bad coach.

Word was the Sacramento Kings didn't care much for Bjelica either. Hence why they took our crappy offer. We was just a bad fit in the whole sense of the word. A coach should not be forced to play someone who he is not comfortable playing.

Any coach who requires certain players to fit his coaching style, is a terrible coach.

Good coaches mold their coaching style to fit the players they have, and make it work. They find a way to use the talent on the roster.

You have a lot of bad takes but this is spot on.

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Flash4thewin · Post #1197 » by **Flash4thewin** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 11:28 am

Heat_team02 wrote:Omer Yurtseven Signs 2 Year Contract with Heat

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/08/yurtseven-signs-two-year-contract-with-heat.html#comments

So no bird rights? If he’s as good as we hope after two years he will go to the highest bidder.

Flash4thewin · Post #1198 » by **Flash4thewin** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 11:32 am

Mk613 wrote:
Wiltside wrote:Kinda wish Jimmy agreed to a 2yr extension so he expired at the same time Kyle does, but I guess that’s the price of doing business. Can’t expect him to leave that kinda cash on the table. That’s lifetime multi-generational legacy sorta numbers.

Make he’s so not worth it.. good player but no super star..

it takes a good GM to plan everything in advance. Take the Lakers, Lebron and Westbrook all expire at the same year and they have AD in his prime. We are giving Lowry more guaranteed money that Chris Paul, that’s just crazy.

dean456 · Post #1199 » by **dean456** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 11:36 am

HEATVols865 wrote:
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:
heat4life wrote:
Word was the Sacramento Kings didn't care much for Bjelica either. Hence why they took our crappy offer. We was just a bad fit in the whole sense of the word. A coach should not be forced to play someone who he is not comfortable playing.

Any coach who requires certain players to fit his coaching style, is a terrible coach.

Good coaches mold their coaching style to fit the players they have, and make it work. They find a way to use the talent on the roster.

You have a lot of bad takes but this is spot on.

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I don't think its as simple as coaching to every players strengths. This is true for your core guys, which I think Spo does a very good job of, but more often then not role players have to fit in around that core. Some players have the skills to adjust to their role and others don't. In no way do I think Spo should have to adjust the way he coaches the team for a guy like Nemanja Bjelica.

dean456 · Post #1200 » by **dean456** » Sat Aug 7, 2021 11:37 am

Flash4thewin wrote:
Heat_team02 wrote:Omer Yurtseven Signs 2 Year Contract with Heat

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/08/yurtseven-signs-two-year-contract-with-heat.html#comments

So no bird rights? If he’s as good as we hope after two years he will go to the highest bidder.

We will have his bird rights. Because we signed him at the end of last season that counts as a year on the roster.