Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1181 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:08 pm

IceColdCubano · Post #1182 » by **IceColdCubano** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:31 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

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Funny that they left out Maxey from the list. Maxey is problably shooting some insane number against him, well he has been really good this season hes shooting well against everyone. The thing about that list is Speed/athletic ability lacking, with the exemption of a couple of guys but their midgets, like Brunson and Tray there's no speedy guards on that list with size, which is where Maxey falls, fast, long, an uber athletic. SGA is only one that looks out of place but somehow he managed, could be that we played them during the stretch he wasn't healthy, SGA is fast as well, and Athletic.

Lennyzinho · Post #1183 » by **Lennyzinho** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:55 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Cheap defensive stoppers that can hit the open 3 are very valuable, keep Haywood. Yall are FADED

Fr. He's improved dramatically imo last couple months. He'd used to make me barf on offense and now I'm like... okay jagsmith, I see you. Ofc he still has bad moments. Steph just had 6 turnovers in a must win play-in game. Players have bad games. But he's much improved. His shot is much better. I rather pay haywood 3-5M all day every day than pay caleb 13-15M.

Theyre both good on defense, haywood might have an edge. Haywood is definitely the better shooter. And he's going to be much cheaper. Sure caleb is more athletic and dunks but cool dunks don't win you games. Need good contracts and solid contributors.

Besides Jimmy should be starting at SF. Caleb has only been starting cuz rozier jrich Duncan all hurt. After that haywood and jjj more than enough. Can't be paying a dude like caleb whatever some team like Jazz or Spurs or sixers or OKC will end up paying him. Haywood is a great 7-8th dude def stopper 3nD on a cheap good deal for a team like us with financial restraints and limitations.

Post #1184 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:08 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Cheap defensive stoppers that can hit the open 3 are very valuable, keep Haywood. Yall are FADED

Haywood McGruder is who he is. A very undersized player who has barely any hops and will hurt you offensively at the very worst time. He's 6'5 with long arms. We need to do much much better from our backup PF spot. Hoping it's possibly the much more talented and bigger 6'9 Tristan Da Silva in the draft. Enough with these extremely under sized PF's. And I also don't want him taking minutes away from JJJ at the backup SF spot. If he wants to be a third stringer minimum type player for a hard working situational defensive player then so be it but make no mistake we are an 8th seed cause of us surrounding our superstars with limited players like Highmsith.

eddieheatfan · Post #1185 » by **eddieheatfan** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:55 pm

IceColdCubano wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

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Funny that they left out Maxey from the list. Maxey is problably shooting some insane number against him, well he has been really good this season hes shooting well against everyone. The thing about that list is Speed/athletic ability lacking, with the exemption of a couple of guys but their midgets, like Brunson and Tray there's no speedy guards on that list with size, which is where Maxey falls, fast, long, an uber athletic. SGA is only one that looks out of place but somehow he managed, could be that we played them during the stretch he wasn't healthy, SGA is fast as well, and Athletic.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #1186 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:30 pm

IceColdCubano wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:

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Funny that they left out Maxey from the list. Maxey is problably shooting some insane number against him, well he has been really good this season hes shooting well against everyone. The thing about that list is Speed/athletic ability lacking, with the exemption of a couple of guys but their midgets, like Brunson and Tray there's no speedy guards on that list with size, which is where Maxey falls, fast, long, an uber athletic. SGA is only one that looks out of place but somehow he managed, could be that we played them during the stretch he wasn't healthy, SGA is fast as well, and Athletic.

HeatFan_NC · Post #1187 » by **HeatFan_NC** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:01 am

If Rozier was hurt, then Spo needed to start another ballhandler in his place: either Mills or Wright. Wright was playing well but didn't get enough minutes.

At the end of the game, not having a ballhandling guard on the floor hurt us. Herro is a scorer and not a ballhandler or facilitator. He had too many costly turnovers tonight.

Post #1188 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:19 am

HeatFan_NC wrote:If Rozier was hurt, then Spo needed to start another ballhandler in his place: either Mills or Wright. Wright was playing well but didn't get enough minutes.

At the end of the game, not having a ballhandling guard on the floor hurt us. Herro is a scorer and not a ballhandler or facilitator. He had too many costly turnovers tonight.

Was a major factor in tonight’s loss and many of the losses down the stretch. Spo has been overplaying Haywood Highsmith

Post #1189 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:51 pm

Kevin Love has a 4 million player option next year. He will definitely be back. Thomas Bryant(scrub) and Josh Richardson(injury) both also likely to opt into deals. Maybe Thomas Bryant opts out in the hopes for more playing time someplace else. J Rich loves it here so most likely staying put. Orlando Robinson has a non guaranteed 2.1 contract. Not sure he’s shown enough to stick. Haywood Highsmith based off the defensive hype could get 3-4 million but hopefully not here. Caleb Martin will not be back next year. Will get a 12 mil per contract and our cap just can’t handle that.

AirP. · Post #1190 » by **AirP.** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:26 pm

Posting this in the game thread and here.

The name of the space on x is/was...

"Jimmy Butler will be out multiple weeks"

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AirP. · Post #1191 » by **AirP.** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:31 pm

I'd like to know why Oubre looked like he was riding a bike in the air, I don't remember the last time I saw someone trying to block a shot from behind do that. It was very odd.

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Here's the full play. Butler could have just scored but looked for the and 1 play and with that, put himself in somewhat dangerous position. I would think 90%+ of NBA players would have just allowed the bucket and tried to inbound the ball quickly.

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Beenie · Post #1192 » by **Beenie** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:34 pm

Bring Highsmith back. He can be had at a value cap number

The decision to not move Martin at the deadline looks extra foolish now as he likely walks for nothing without the justification of a solid contribution during a long playoff run this year.

IceColdCubano · Post #1193 » by **IceColdCubano** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:36 pm

So Jimmy is out with an MCL tear for multiple weeks, lets lose this upcoming game and position ourselves into the lottery at least. The basketball Godz may still be able to bless us with an undercover superstar.

Post #1194 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:39 pm

TYPE TOTALS
2024 NBA Luxury Tax Threshold $171,315,000
Total Taxable Salaries $182,298,756
Current Luxury Tax Space $-10,983,756
Est. Luxury Tax Bill $18,709,393

How we are currently looking into next year. Number includes our opt ins. If Martin, Bryant or J Rich or both opt out, and O Robinson not picked up we will start the free agency period under the lux tax line allowing for more trade flexibility as well.

_GH0ST_ · Post #1195 » by **_GH0ST_** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:40 pm

Let Bryant and Orlando go. Adem Bona would be a good pick in the 2nd round. Elite switch defender and extremely athletic. A complete Spo man.

Post #1196 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:43 pm

Beenie wrote:Bring Highsmith back. He can be had at a value cap number

The decision to not move Martin at the deadline looks extra foolish now as he likely walks for nothing without the justification of a solid contribution during a long playoff run this year.

Highsmith back for a minimum that keeps us under the tax sure but J Rich opting in for 3 million is a lot more valuable then Jagsmith. If Rich opts out then we probably give him that small value cap number raise.

Post #1197 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:45 pm

_GH0ST_ wrote:Let Bryant and Orlando go. Adem Bona would be a good pick in the 2nd round. Elite switch defender and extremely athletic. A complete Spo man.

Bryant has a player opt in so not our choice. Hopefully he leaves for more playing time but maybe he likes it here so much he stays. Orlando has non guaranteed

_GH0ST_ · Post #1198 » by **_GH0ST_** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:50 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
_GH0ST_ wrote:Let Bryant and Orlando go. Adem Bona would be a good pick in the 2nd round. Elite switch defender and extremely athletic. A complete Spo man.

Bryant has a player opt in so not our choice. Hopefully he leaves for more playing time but maybe he likes it here so much he stays. Orlando has non guaranteed

I know. I predict Bryant and Love will want longer contracts. I hope we don't give extensions like Dedmon.

AirP. · Post #1199 » by **AirP.** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:51 pm

IceColdCubano wrote:So Jimmy is out with an MCL tear for multiple weeks, lets lose this upcoming game and position ourselves into the lottery at least. The basketball Godz may still be able to bless us with an undercover superstar.

Miami may have no choice in the matter.

I suspect the plan for Miami is the same as it has been since LeBron left which is to find a MVP level player and the best they've done in the last 9 years is find a part time MVP level player in Butler(who forced his way to Miami), an injured Oladipo(who was forcing his way to Miami) and a past his prime Lowry(who forced his way to Miami but used a bidding war to get more money). Miami won't be bad enough to have a decent shot at getting a top of the lottery pick so they have to continue to do what they've always done, try to stay competitive and hope someone falls in their lap which probably means an older star forcing his way to Miami like Lillard tried to do with no leverage but a career of loyalty to Portland which equated to no leverage at all.

I personally like Miami not tanking and trying to be competitive each year and even for Miami, the draft is a crap shoot, don't be fooled getting lucky with a nice pick here and there, because the duds will come too. The evaluation that got Miami to pick Precious over Maxey is a huge franchise changing miss, having him this whole time instead of Precious/Lowry probably changes Miami's fate now and in the future.

I could see Miami making 2-3 big trades, but I could also see them standing mostly pat. There really isn't a shortcut into finding the next MVP level player for Miami and I highly doubt Miami will be able to acquire one in the next half decade with where they currently stand. It sucks but it's also reality for basically all teams who don't tank... and even teams that tank don't always find their superstar.

Post #1200 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:57 pm

_GH0ST_ wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:
_GH0ST_ wrote:Let Bryant and Orlando go. Adem Bona would be a good pick in the 2nd round. Elite switch defender and extremely athletic. A complete Spo man.

Bryant has a player opt in so not our choice. Hopefully he leaves for more playing time but maybe he likes it here so much he stays. Orlando has non guaranteed

I know. I predict Bryant and Love will want longer contracts. I hope we don't give extensions like Dedmon.

Love will opt into his 4 million then start signing UD type vet deals after that the league pays half for.