PG: Dipo Sighting

[SA37]

Miami is defense-first organization and Bam fits that perfectly. With Butler, Miami doesn't need Bam to be a top-15 player. He's a perennial DPOY candidate and is a 20-a-game scorer. How many other bigs fit that category? He is exactly the kind of player Miami looks for not only for his skills, but for the way he plays and the way he can set the tone culturally.

Look at the issues teams have to deal with with guys like Irving, Kawhi, Zion, Harden...etc. Character and personality matter.

Between Bam and Herro, both are going to have to step it up in the scoring department. Bam in particular - the defensive stuff is nice but he’s playing on a max contract, 10 points a game isnt going to cut if we are serious about contending for a championship. Jimmy is going to need help.

I also have to push back on this notion that we dont need Bam to be a top 15 player. Isnt that the kind of leap that drastically raises the ceiling for this team?

We can't judge Bam and Herro on a handful of games against the Hawks. It's disappointing they are playing so far below what they are capable of, but it would be imprudent to make decisions based on that.

My opinion is the league is unfathomably talented and making the top 15 is tough. Consider you have ~10 players who could be the MVP in any given year: Curry, LeBron, Kawhi, Embiid, Giannis, Jokic, Doncic, KD, Paul...you could in theory add Tatum, Irving, Harden, Lillard, AD, Ja Morant, Jimmy Butler...etc to this list.

I don't think Bam can sustain the level Giannis, Embiid, or Jokic play at, but he certainly has the talent to do it for stretches and is possibly better than anyone in the next tier of players behind those bigs/forwards (KAT, Gobert, AD, Randle, Ayton, Siakam)

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We’ve actually seen Bam answer the call multiple times to score when we’ve been short handed this season. At full strength Spo just likes to run things a little different.

[HEATVols865]

Y’all being so optimistic about Spo playing Dipo…I’ll believe it when I see it. That stubborn cuck never fails to amaze me with his stubbornness


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[marson]

I’m going to need Spo to refrain from the Herro-Duncan lineups the rest of the playoffs. I hate that it takes an injury for him to do things that make sense lol. Herro minutes should be staggered with 4 other plus defenders. Ditto for Duncan. Never together. And the metrics prove this to be the case.

Can’t see how Dipo isn’t a fixture moving forward now. You’ll need those particular set of skills out there. Particularly that point of attack defense.

Can't imagine Herro/Duncan combo defending Harden/Maxie & Brown/Tatum in the next following rounds.

One of the reasons why the Lakers beat us as well. Caruso and KCP went off against them.

[wadenation305]

I love Herro man. But so far this playoff he reminds me more of Lou Will than a future star.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Yeah Herro is gonna have to play like his post-ASB self soon if we're gonna make a deep run. We can survive his current play vs a team like the Lollihawks but vs teams like Bucks, Celts and may be even Sixers... that won't get it done because the good defenses will clamp us without Herro's halfcourt creation ability

I don't know what his issue is -- his shot is obviously off but he's also looking indecisive. Like hesitating on where he should pass or dribble to and when he should shoot. I do know that tasking him with PG duties has never not resulted in this kind of distracted focus on his scoring game. For however many more games Lowry misses, I'd hope Spo just splits full-time PG duties between Gabe and Dipo so Herro can go back to his natural role of pure SG

[greg4012]

Could of traded Bam and Duncan for Sabonis and Turner. I think Spo eeks out more offensive production from those two.

Hard to argue against Miamis elite defensive performance tonight, though, im sure Bams a big part of that.

GTFO with that garbage

[DayofMourning]

Yeah, not trading Bam. He's too crucial to our defense. I imagine him playing next to a guy like Koloko who can cover for him at the rim on defense. That would be ideal. Bam will have to start to show consistency from 15 feet out though, if he's going to be doing handoffs from that distance the majority of the time. He needs to make teams gameplan for him being a threat from there.

[greg4012]

PJ Tucker was a superstar in the most PJ Tucker way last night.

He did a little bit of everything plus A LOT of the little things that turn the tide of a game in our favor. My 2 favorite moments were probably:

1. PJ Tucker has the ball just outside the paint with Trae Young on him so he goes ISO mode and walks Trae into the paint for the simple post move and bucket. BEAUTIFUL

2. PJ has ALL HANDS Okongwu on him and tries to attack the basket; Okongwu does what he does on every single possession and clearly shoves PJ. PJ sells the contact while putting up a shot and gets the refs to finally call Okongwu for the BS he's been pulling all series*. They exchange words and PJ wants all the smoke. PJ gets a T while simultaneously mentally destroying Okongwu and the whole Hawks bench.




*If you haven't noticed, I've been pretty annoyed by the fact that Okongwu has been shoving on every single possession he's in the game and didn't seem to get called for anything until PJ sold it. He has probably fouled Bam about 30+ times this series.

[harlem_ball]

Could of traded Bam and Duncan for Sabonis and Turner. I think Spo eeks out more offensive production from those two.

Hard to argue against Miamis elite defensive performance tonight, though, im sure Bams a big part of that.

GTFO with that garbage

You didn't like Bams performance?

[SerialChiller]

PJ is such a G...he said in his post game that he loves playing the 5. So many bigs like Anthony Davis for example hate it, and 6'5 Tucker loves it lol.

[MHeat0279]

Could of traded Bam and Duncan for Sabonis and Turner. I think Spo eeks out more offensive production from those two.

Hard to argue against Miamis elite defensive performance tonight, though, im sure Bams a big part of that.

We would have lost that trade big time. Turner disappears too often and Sabonis is no more of a go to scorer than Bam.

Could of traded Bam and Duncan for Sabonis and Turner. I think Spo eeks out more offensive production from those two.

Hard to argue against Miamis elite defensive performance tonight, though, im sure Bams a big part of that.

Out for the season Turner and losing player/horrible defender Sabonis? Thank god we didn’t.

That’s like saying we could’ve traded Jimmy for Beal and Dinwiddie

LOL

[DayofMourning]

PJ is such a G...he said in his post game that he loves playing the 5. So many bigs like Anthony Davis for example hate it, and 6'5 Tucker loves it lol.

Just wish he was 7 foot tall and 25 years old;)

[MHeat0279]

Could of traded Bam and Duncan for Sabonis and Turner. I think Spo eeks out more offensive production from those two.

Hard to argue against Miamis elite defensive performance tonight, though, im sure Bams a big part of that.

We would have lost that trade big time. Turner disappears too often and Sabonis is no more of a go to scorer than Bam.

Sabonis is a better offensive player than Bam, but Bam is light years better than Sabonis on defense. Adebayo is a much more capable offensive player than what he is showing in the Atlanta series, though.

At any rate, Miami is not trading Bam unless the player coming back is Jokic, Doncic, Giannis, or Embiid.

I am actually curious if MIami will go after Lillard or Beal in the summer. It would take Lowry, Robinson, and Herro to get either done. Sign Covington. Re-sign Oladipo.

Bam / Dedmon / Yurtseven
Tucker / Covington
Butler / Martin
Oladipo / Strus
Lillard / Vincent

i guess we will keep Bam forever then, because none of those players are coming here in exchange for Bam

[SerialChiller]

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I think Butler is excited to play with Dipo now...

[SerialChiller]

PJ is such a G...he said in his post game that he loves playing the 5. So many bigs like Anthony Davis for example hate it, and 6'5 Tucker loves it lol.

Just wish he was 7 foot tall and 25 years old;)

I'd happily settle for just the 25 part. It's a shame he didn't become a Heat sooner, he's one through and through.

[DayofMourning]

PJ is such a G...he said in his post game that he loves playing the 5. So many bigs like Anthony Davis for example hate it, and 6'5 Tucker loves it lol.

Just wish he was 7 foot tall and 25 years old;)

I'd happily settle for just the 25 part. It's a shame he didn't become a Heat sooner, he's one through and through.

Hope his body can hold up for a couple more years.

[al bondiga]

Y’all being so optimistic about Spo playing Dipo…I’ll believe it when I see it. That stubborn cuck never fails to amaze me with his stubbornness


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I think that what vols is trying to say is that spo reality sometimes differs from what is experience by most people, but consider this vols...
only a few minutes after dipo was inserted in the game, was when I realized that this young guy named Victor still is a very special player, FOR SURE I thought dipo has declined very fast, the game has evolved past him, he's mind won't keep up with his knee

yes dipo is still too shall we say "eager", but he has been through it man, he's going to be ready pretty fast, spo will have no choice but to acknowledge that, same as I did, this guy can still play like a superstar

[MHeat0279]

We would have lost that trade big time. Turner disappears too often and Sabonis is no more of a go to scorer than Bam.

Sabonis is a better offensive player than Bam, but Bam is light years better than Sabonis on defense. Adebayo is a much more capable offensive player than what he is showing in the Atlanta series, though.

At any rate, Miami is not trading Bam unless the player coming back is Jokic, Doncic, Giannis, or Embiid.

I am actually curious if MIami will go after Lillard or Beal in the summer. It would take Lowry, Robinson, and Herro to get either done. Sign Covington. Re-sign Oladipo.

Bam / Dedmon / Yurtseven
Tucker / Covington
Butler / Martin
Oladipo / Strus
Lillard / Vincent

So Bam who is arguably not even a top 15 player would only be traded for top 5-7 players? Especially when Bam is what he is on offense?

I honestly think he's in the same Herro boat other than having already had the benefit of getting paid. He also has the benefit of playing with the first unit and being shielded by not being asked to even contribute consistently offensively. I mean I wouldn't even want to imagine Bam trying to carry an offense, it'd be a nightmare. So he is very far from being untouchable if he continues sucking the way he has.

I agree, there is not way any of those players get here with Bam as the main piece in the trade, dont really understand the overvalue we place on Bam, to me he is an ok player severely challenge in the offensive department. To each his own.

[MHeat0279]

Pat just took the TWolves from the cellar to the yoffs in one season.

He’s at the very best the 4 best player on that team. Solid role player that I wouldn’t mind having myself, hell we were the ones that found him, but he’s simply just a role player. Hell never be near all star level

I think he was in all-star consideration one season in LA. Anyways he, like Bam, do the little things that go unnoticed. Besides, we were winning with Yurt too so I don't see Bam as irreplaceable, especially for Ingram.

Winning will cure all doubts. No 2nd round choke jobs with weak stats please

you would be nuts not to trade bam for Ingram