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Re: Miami Heat 2024 Regular Season - Thread 4.0 

Post#121 » by twix2500 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:45 am

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you're always confused :lol:


What’s your fix for the team?


This team need to find the right role playing glue guys. Guys he can do things at a high level that will make the system work outside of scoring. The scorers on this team are trying to do too many different responsibilities outside of scoring.


You got all these players trying to be point guards, handling the ball, trying to pass and be scorers. Bam should be the one focusing on scoring, but has to also play point, rebound, set screens, block shots etc. This team has too many jacks of all trades, and not enough masters at something.

Need guys who can pass, set screens, block out etc. So you can run functional plays
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Post#122 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:45 am

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Loved seeing this, got the mismatch, isolated him, and went straight to attacking the rim. More of this, attacking and identifying mismatches is huge for an offense. More pick and roll is a must now that we have Terry too, there’s just literally no excuse for not running it far more.

We have a top 5 pick and roll handler and a top 5 roller, it’s not rocket science
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Post#123 » by Wiltside » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:45 am

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you're always confused :lol:


What’s your fix for the team?

I do agree with Twix that we really don’t need some type of prolific scoring PF but a PF that knows how to do the things that made PJ Tucker and Jae Crowder click so well here. We need a banger who can hit 3’s.


Hard thing is finding that guy. Maybe it's Jaquez to some extent, even though I don't like him as a 4.
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Post#124 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:46 am

I mean PJ Tucker will be available on the buyout market shortly but goodness he is a complete 0 offensively. He can’t start, y’all remember how we were defended in the 2022 ECF
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Post#125 » by Enso » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:47 am

Not saying it’ll solve all our problems but herro coming off the bench just seems like something that’s self evident when you watch this team no ?
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Post#126 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:49 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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What’s your fix for the team?

I do agree with Twix that we really don’t need some type of prolific scoring PF but a PF that knows how to do the things that made PJ Tucker and Jae Crowder click so well here. We need a banger who can hit 3’s.


I agree but we need a schematics/hierarchy change in the offense as well and simply for guys to just make shots. Shot profile tinkering for Bam and Herro as well.

I do think Terry is going to help this nonsense we just saw yet again tonight, he’s just got to get comfortable first. Probably not tomorrow, maybe Saturday in the loss at New York though

Yeah saw Bam mention this about playing pickup with Terry. We all want aggressive Scary Terry that can drop a 50 piece. Got to give him the ball and let him do his thing.
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Post#127 » by Enso » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:50 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:I do agree with Twix that we really don’t need some type of prolific scoring PF but a PF that knows how to do the things that made PJ Tucker and Jae Crowder click so well here. We need a banger who can hit 3’s.


I agree but we need a schematics/hierarchy change in the offense as well and simply for guys to just make shots. Shot profile tinkering for Bam and Herro as well.

I do think Terry is going to help this nonsense we just saw yet again tonight, he’s just got to get comfortable first. Probably not tomorrow, maybe Saturday in the loss at New York though

Yeah saw Bam mention this about playing pickup with Terry. We all want aggressive Scary Terry that can drop a 50 piece. Got to give him the ball and let him do his thing.


How’s that gonna work if you have him, Tyler and Jimmy starting
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Post#128 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:51 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I mean PJ Tucker will be available on the buyout market shortly but goodness he is a complete 0 offensively. He can’t start, y’all remember how we were defended in the 2022 ECF

I think his time has passed. He was playing MVP level defense with us. Nailed ever damn corner 3 he took and also had a floater game clicking here to boot. That last Heat run was pretty much his final dance with father time
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Post#129 » by Enso » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:51 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I mean PJ Tucker will be available on the buyout market shortly but goodness he is a complete 0 offensively. He can’t start, y’all remember how we were defended in the 2022 ECF


He can’t hit an open 3 anymore ?
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Post#130 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:51 am

Enso wrote:Not saying it’ll solve all our problems but herro coming off the bench just seems like something that’s self evident when you watch this team no ?


There’s one final nail in the coffin that I think is necessary for everyone to see and that “should” finally open everyone’s eyes, if when we move Terry to the starting lineup if we’re still losing games and struggling to get efficient offense then it’s time for big changes
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Post#131 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:52 am

Enso wrote:
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I agree but we need a schematics/hierarchy change in the offense as well and simply for guys to just make shots. Shot profile tinkering for Bam and Herro as well.

I do think Terry is going to help this nonsense we just saw yet again tonight, he’s just got to get comfortable first. Probably not tomorrow, maybe Saturday in the loss at New York though

Yeah saw Bam mention this about playing pickup with Terry. We all want aggressive Scary Terry that can drop a 50 piece. Got to give him the ball and let him do his thing.


How’s that gonna work if you have him, Tyler and Jimmy starting

It can if Herro just gets out the way and looks to hit open shots instead of trying to handle ball and over pass or drive to the rim when it’s packed
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Post#132 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:53 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:I do agree with Twix that we really don’t need some type of prolific scoring PF but a PF that knows how to do the things that made PJ Tucker and Jae Crowder click so well here. We need a banger who can hit 3’s.


I agree but we need a schematics/hierarchy change in the offense as well and simply for guys to just make shots. Shot profile tinkering for Bam and Herro as well.

I do think Terry is going to help this nonsense we just saw yet again tonight, he’s just got to get comfortable first. Probably not tomorrow, maybe Saturday in the loss at New York though

Yeah saw Bam mention this about playing pickup with Terry. We all want aggressive Scary Terry that can drop a 50 piece. Got to give him the ball and let him do his thing.


In Spos defense Terry knows probably 5% of the offense right now but I still disagree with putting him off ball and letting Caleb run point.

I wish he would’ve hit that big 3 just for the feel good story because we likely would’ve turned up after and won the game
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Post#133 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:55 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I mean PJ Tucker will be available on the buyout market shortly but goodness he is a complete 0 offensively. He can’t start, y’all remember how we were defended in the 2022 ECF


He can’t hit an open 3 anymore ?


The volume just isn’t there to justify it any more
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Post#134 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:55 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I mean PJ Tucker will be available on the buyout market shortly but goodness he is a complete 0 offensively. He can’t start, y’all remember how we were defended in the 2022 ECF

I think his time has passed. He was playing MVP level defense with us. Nailed ever damn corner 3 he took and also had a floater game clicking here to boot. That last Heat run was pretty much his final dance with father time


Leaving the Heat was the worst possible thing he could’ve done to end his career tbh
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Post#135 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:55 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I mean PJ Tucker will be available on the buyout market shortly but goodness he is a complete 0 offensively. He can’t start, y’all remember how we were defended in the 2022 ECF


He can’t hit an open 3 anymore ?

He’s ultra washed. Maybe a trade with BK for DFS and O’Neale could help fix the problem
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Post#136 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:57 am

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Yeah saw Bam mention this about playing pickup with Terry. We all want aggressive Scary Terry that can drop a 50 piece. Got to give him the ball and let him do his thing.


How’s that gonna work if you have him, Tyler and Jimmy starting

It can if Herro just gets out the way and looks to hit open shots instead of trying to handle ball and over pass or drive to the rim when it’s packed


Honestly though, and I know where you stand on the Herro stuff but, when you typed that out did you legit think it was a possibility? Like are you confident he’s going to adjust his game and his shot profile to blend in and help the team? I don’t see it but I’d gladly be wrong,
I think he thinks of himself as too high profile of a player to play like that
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Post#137 » by twix2500 » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:58 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Yeah saw Bam mention this about playing pickup with Terry. We all want aggressive Scary Terry that can drop a 50 piece. Got to give him the ball and let him do his thing.


How’s that gonna work if you have him, Tyler and Jimmy starting

It can if Herro just gets out the way and looks to hit open shots instead of trying to handle ball and over pass or drive to the rim when it’s packed
Too many players who want to be at the top of the key

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Post#138 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:58 am

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I agree but we need a schematics/hierarchy change in the offense as well and simply for guys to just make shots. Shot profile tinkering for Bam and Herro as well.

I do think Terry is going to help this nonsense we just saw yet again tonight, he’s just got to get comfortable first. Probably not tomorrow, maybe Saturday in the loss at New York though

Yeah saw Bam mention this about playing pickup with Terry. We all want aggressive Scary Terry that can drop a 50 piece. Got to give him the ball and let him do his thing.


In Spos defense Terry knows probably 5% of the offense right now but I still disagree with putting him off ball and letting Caleb run point.

I wish he would’ve hit that big 3 just for the feel good story because we likely would’ve turned up after and won the game

Yeah i know. Not worried about what Terry is going to bring. He’s going to trounce Lowry’s output.
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Post#139 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:59 am

twix2500 wrote:
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How’s that gonna work if you have him, Tyler and Jimmy starting

It can if Herro just gets out the way and looks to hit open shots instead of trying to handle ball and over pass or drive to the rim when it’s packed
Too many players who want to be at the top of the key

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Spo enables this too though. He needs to consolidate the offense .
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Post#140 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:01 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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How’s that gonna work if you have him, Tyler and Jimmy starting

It can if Herro just gets out the way and looks to hit open shots instead of trying to handle ball and over pass or drive to the rim when it’s packed


Honestly though, and I know where you stand on the Herro stuff but, when you typed that out did you legit think it was a possibility? Like are you confident he’s going to adjust his game and his shot profile to blend in and help the team? I don’t see it but I’d gladly be wrong,
I think he thinks of himself as too high profile of a player to play like that

This is on Spo and the organization. If Herro can’t conform to this then you take the next steps. Herro doesn’t come off as that type with the media or has any team mates lashing out at him so this has to be coming from what the coaching staff is asking him too do.

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