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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024 2.0** 

Post#121 » by twix2500 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:16 am

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twix2500 wrote:I am ready for the draft

PG: Rozier - Boogie Ellis or Tristen Newton - Alondes Williams
SG: Butler - Herro - Richardson
SF: Robinson - Jaquez Jr - Cain
PF: Adebayo - Jovic
Ce: Zach Edey - Love - Bryant - Robinson


I don't see many scenarios where Edey starts his rookie year unless Bam is hurt. The spacing issues will likely ensure this until Edey can hit his 3s in game. He's a mature player tho, so I could see him being the back up center over Love. Maybe Love moves to back up 4. I would also prefer to keep Highsmith and let Bryant opt out.


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Post#122 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:40 am

Any combination of Ware/Edey + Carter/Carrington/Collier will make me very happy.

It's crucial to get that second pick - it will be a huge boost to our energy, our books, our future assets, and the balance of the team.

I'm feeling confident at least 2 of those names will be available in that 14-19 range.
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Post#123 » by contract » Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:49 am

twix2500 wrote:I am ready for the draft

PG: Rozier - Boogie Ellis or Tristen Newton - Alondes Williams
SG: Butler - Herro - Richardson
SF: Robinson - Jaquez Jr - Cain
PF: Adebayo - Jovic
Ce: Zach Edey - Love - Bryant - Robinson

So we've just given up on playing defense, huh? Defense trash ... spacing trash. :nonono:
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Post#124 » by contract » Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:58 am

So we're really going to draft Boban? I need to go back to ignoring the draft.
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2024 2.0** 

Post#125 » by lastb1ckman » Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:29 pm

contract wrote:So we're really going to draft Boban? I need to go back to ignoring the draft.


Personally, I have no idea. All i know is that they are working him out, he's been flying up draft boards the last couple months, and he brings a lot of tools the Heat could use.

Let me just say one thing, if Edey is Boban, then Bam is Bismack Biyombo. That's how far apart they are.
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Post#126 » by greg4012 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 12:53 pm

contract wrote:So we're really going to draft Boban? I need to go back to ignoring the draft.


Probably not. Miami did work out Edey though. I'd imagine every single fanbase forum has a stretch where they fantasize about drafting the giant and tilting the scales of the NBA.

Edey is fascinating. But, I still fear he's a player that needs to either have everything built around him (and be great enough to warrant that at the expense of other teammates' games) or be relegated to a very limited bench role. He's had 4 years in college to get that passing right. Still having a negative A/TO ratio has me skeptical that he's ready to play a complementary game or warrant being a focal point of a NBA offense. The defense is a whole other question.
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Post#127 » by _GH0ST_ » Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:12 pm

Edey might have been an All-Star in basketball in 2000, but he wasn't worth that much today. With P&R, all teams will exploit him. His job is very difficult against teams that play fast. I have big doubts that he will adapt to play-off basketball.

Also, we know that Spo hates this type of players
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Post#128 » by greg4012 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 1:57 pm

All this Edey talk has me recalling Michael Beasley's insane college production. Can you believe Beasley--as a freshman--actually averaged more ppg and rpg than Edey's dominant senior season?

Beasley being such a bust still hurts despite the big 3 and all that followed lol
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Post#129 » by twix2500 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:05 pm

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contract wrote:So we're really going to draft Boban? I need to go back to ignoring the draft.


Probably not. Miami did work out Edey though. I'd imagine every single fanbase forum has a stretch where they fantasize about drafting the giant and tilting the scales of the NBA.

Edey is fascinating. But, I still fear he's a player that needs to either have everything built around him (and be great enough to warrant that at the expense of other teammates' games) or be relegated to a very limited bench role. He's had 4 years in college to get that passing right. Still having a negative A/TO ratio has me skeptical that he's ready to play a complementary game or warrant being a focal point of a NBA offense. The defense is a whole other question.


Like James Harden, Luka and Westbrook. They need the who offense relegated around them. Edey is a better defender than all three :lol:
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Post#130 » by twix2500 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:08 pm

Just sit back and enjoy the 40 burgers in Miami next season.

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Post#131 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:09 pm

greg4012 wrote:All this Edey talk has me recalling Michael Beasley's insane college production. Can you believe Beasley--as a freshman--actually averaged more ppg and rpg than Edey's dominant senior season?

Beasley being such a bust still hurts despite the big 3 and all that followed lol

College production doesn’t always translate. Some players are much better in the NBA cause of the speed of play and bigger more open court. For someone like Edey who uses his massive size in the smaller spaces on the college court could struggle at the next level with the more wide open play.

I’m not sold that Edey is the direction with need to go with. Spo has had a winning formula and especially when he had 4’s like Crowder and Tucker. I think what we need is to keep Bam at Center and get players next to Bam that are 6’7-6’10 230 pounds and up and more athletic.

I do think we need a backup Center but someone like Bona in the second round would be ideal.
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Post#132 » by twix2500 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:12 pm

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greg4012 wrote:All this Edey talk has me recalling Michael Beasley's insane college production. Can you believe Beasley--as a freshman--actually averaged more ppg and rpg than Edey's dominant senior season?

Beasley being such a bust still hurts despite the big 3 and all that followed lol

College production doesn’t always translate. Some players are much better in the NBA cause of the speed of play and bigger more open court. For someone like Edey who uses his massive size in the smaller spaces on the college court could struggle at the next level with the more wide open play.

I’m not sold that Edey is the direction with need to go with. Spo has had a winning formula and especially when he had 4’s like Crowder and Tucker. I think what we need is to keep Bam at Center and get players next to Bam that are 6’7-6’10 230 pounds and up and more athletic.

I do think we need a backup Center but someone like Bona in the second round would be ideal.


Be revolutionary! Spo offense was great when he was the first ones to do it. Now everyone is doing and the Heat has had one of the worse offenses in the NBA. Be revolutionary instead of a copy cat.
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Post#133 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:14 pm

twix2500 wrote:Just sit back and enjoy the 40 burgers in Miami next season.


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Post#134 » by greg4012 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:14 pm

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contract wrote:So we're really going to draft Boban? I need to go back to ignoring the draft.


Probably not. Miami did work out Edey though. I'd imagine every single fanbase forum has a stretch where they fantasize about drafting the giant and tilting the scales of the NBA.

Edey is fascinating. But, I still fear he's a player that needs to either have everything built around him (and be great enough to warrant that at the expense of other teammates' games) or be relegated to a very limited bench role. He's had 4 years in college to get that passing right. Still having a negative A/TO ratio has me skeptical that he's ready to play a complementary game or warrant being a focal point of a NBA offense. The defense is a whole other question.


Like James Harden, Luka and Westbrook. They need the who offense relegated around them. Edey is a better defender than all three :lol:


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Post#135 » by AirP. » Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:14 pm

The youtube version is being put up at 11 Eastern. There may be whispers of Miami may be looking at moving up into the top 5. FYI, the 5th pick will be paid 8 mil a year. On other podcasts it's been said that some teams don't think the players are worth the rookie contracts since they see the top of the draft as your normal 7-12 picks vs 1-5 in this weaker at the top draft.

 
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Post#136 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:17 pm

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greg4012 wrote:All this Edey talk has me recalling Michael Beasley's insane college production. Can you believe Beasley--as a freshman--actually averaged more ppg and rpg than Edey's dominant senior season?

Beasley being such a bust still hurts despite the big 3 and all that followed lol

College production doesn’t always translate. Some players are much better in the NBA cause of the speed of play and bigger more open court. For someone like Edey who uses his massive size in the smaller spaces on the college court could struggle at the next level with the more wide open play.

I’m not sold that Edey is the direction with need to go with. Spo has had a winning formula and especially when he had 4’s like Crowder and Tucker. I think what we need is to keep Bam at Center and get players next to Bam that are 6’7-6’10 230 pounds and up and more athletic.

I do think we need a backup Center but someone like Bona in the second round would be ideal.


Be revolutionary! Spo offense was great when he was the first ones to do it. Now everyone is doing and the Heat has had one of the worse offenses in the NBA. Be revolutionary instead of a copy cat.

Celtics just dominated their way to a chip with two dominate wings and two big power guards and two stretch Centers in Porzingis and Horford. Spo knows how to beat them and it’s not going to be by adding a big non switching lumbering Center.
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Post#137 » by twix2500 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:23 pm

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twix2500 wrote:Just sit back and enjoy the 40 burgers in Miami next season.




:lol: Thats the unicorn stretch four yall want :lol:
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Post#138 » by twix2500 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 2:24 pm

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twix2500 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:College production doesn’t always translate. Some players are much better in the NBA cause of the speed of play and bigger more open court. For someone like Edey who uses his massive size in the smaller spaces on the college court could struggle at the next level with the more wide open play.

I’m not sold that Edey is the direction with need to go with. Spo has had a winning formula and especially when he had 4’s like Crowder and Tucker. I think what we need is to keep Bam at Center and get players next to Bam that are 6’7-6’10 230 pounds and up and more athletic.

I do think we need a backup Center but someone like Bona in the second round would be ideal.


Be revolutionary! Spo offense was great when he was the first ones to do it. Now everyone is doing and the Heat has had one of the worse offenses in the NBA. Be revolutionary instead of a copy cat.

Celtics just dominated their way to a chip with two dominate wings and two big power guards and two stretch Centers in Porzingis and Horford. Spo knows how to beat them and it’s not going to be by adding a big non switching lumbering Center.


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Post#139 » by contract » Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:24 pm

AirP. wrote:The youtube version is being put up at 11 Eastern. There may be whispers of Miami may be looking at moving up into the top 5. FYI, the 5th pick will be paid 8 mil a year. On other podcasts it's been said that some teams don't think the players are worth the rookie contracts since they see the top of the draft as your normal 7-12 picks vs 1-5 in this weaker at the top draft.

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How the hell are we going to get into the top 5 without trading Bam? :lol:
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Post#140 » by twix2500 » Tue Jun 18, 2024 3:38 pm

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Probably not. Miami did work out Edey though. I'd imagine every single fanbase forum has a stretch where they fantasize about drafting the giant and tilting the scales of the NBA.

Edey is fascinating. But, I still fear he's a player that needs to either have everything built around him (and be great enough to warrant that at the expense of other teammates' games) or be relegated to a very limited bench role. He's had 4 years in college to get that passing right. Still having a negative A/TO ratio has me skeptical that he's ready to play a complementary game or warrant being a focal point of a NBA offense. The defense is a whole other question.


Like James Harden, Luka and Westbrook. They need the who offense relegated around them. Edey is a better defender than all three


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And Edey gonna average 29 here just like them.

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