2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1

[DayofMourning]

Common sense and well reality tell us we need a full rebuild but our front office won’t do that. KD even at his age would be the best player on this team with only Bam ahead of him. Odds are in two year KD will still be better than Herro or anyone not named Bam on the roster. Unfortunately the Suns won’t take our trash, our rejects for KD.

Already solved it.

Bam for 2 and 14.

Herro for 3.

Suffer year 1.

Draft DP.

Win a whole buncha rangs.

Harper
VJ
Jovic
Dybansta
Ware

Jesus.

Thats the stuff right there.

[Flash4thewin]

Common sense and well reality tell us we need a full rebuild but our front office won’t do that. KD even at his age would be the best player on this team with only Bam ahead of him. Odds are in two year KD will still be better than Herro or anyone not named Bam on the roster. Unfortunately the Suns won’t take our trash, our rejects for KD.

Not so fast my friend about the Suns not taking our rejects. Remember KD has a 54.7 million dollar contract that needs to be matched and is also an up coming 37 year old soon to be free agent that wants to be paid a max for the next two years.

Very much like Butler the market is going to be suppressed. I have outlined numerous options that get the Suns expiring contracts and the potential to get out of the tax with Duncan’s contract. At tops they should be thrilled with getting a couple of young players out of this in Jovic and JJJ.

Remember what our haul was for Butler? Wiggins, Anderson, and i believe was a top 12 protected pick that became 20th. Now we did get a good amount of tax salary relief in the deal that saved Arison close to 20 plus mil in taxes and almost got us completely out of it until Raptors backed out of taking Anderson and instead took on Tucker for Mitchell while us giving them a 2nd rd pick.

Rozier, Duncan, JJJ and Jovic honestly even without throwing in a pick looks a lot better than Wiggins, Anderson, top 12 protected. Suns are getting Rozier’s expiring and maybe they try and rehab him along side Booker. We got saddled with Wiggins extra year at 30 million.

Duncan gets them out of the tax after the owner spent a record amount in taxes last year and they also will be in the repeater next year if they don’t get out of it. JJJ gives them a young option at the 3 and Jovic gives them a young 4 they don’t have. At tops right now i would swap the 20th for 29th with them this year. Considering the financial flexibility that’s coming along with this deal.

They can make deals with Nets to lower the tax. Jovic is is up to get paid, jjj was how to say to say it politely trash. If that’s the offer the Suns are better off holding him and letting him expire and taking out 50+ mill off of the salary. The west is a blood bath, Jovic, JJJ won’t even make them competitive so they are better off holding on to KD unfortunately for us.

[DayofMourning]

Common sense and well reality tell us we need a full rebuild but our front office won’t do that. KD even at his age would be the best player on this team with only Bam ahead of him. Odds are in two year KD will still be better than Herro or anyone not named Bam on the roster. Unfortunately the Suns won’t take our trash, our rejects for KD.

Not so fast my friend about the Suns not taking our rejects. Remember KD has a 54.7 million dollar contract that needs to be matched and is also an up coming 37 year old soon to be free agent that wants to be paid a max for the next two years.

Very much like Butler the market is going to be suppressed. I have outlined numerous options that get the Suns expiring contracts and the potential to get out of the tax with Duncan’s contract. At tops they should be thrilled with getting a couple of young players out of this in Jovic and JJJ.

Remember what our haul was for Butler? Wiggins, Anderson, and i believe was a top 12 protected pick that became 20th. Now we did get a good amount of tax salary relief in the deal that saved Arison close to 20 plus mil in taxes and almost got us completely out of it until Raptors backed out of taking Anderson and instead took on Tucker for Mitchell while us giving them a 2nd rd pick.

Rozier, Duncan, JJJ and Jovic honestly even without throwing in a pick looks a lot better than Wiggins, Anderson, top 12 protected. Suns are getting Rozier’s expiring and maybe they try and rehab him along side Booker. We got saddled with Wiggins extra year at 30 million.

Duncan gets them out of the tax after the owner spent a record amount in taxes last year and they also will be in the repeater next year if they don’t get out of it. JJJ gives them a young option at the 3 and Jovic gives them a young 4 they don’t have. At tops right now i would swap the 20th for 29th with them this year. Considering the financial flexibility that’s coming along with this deal.

MettaWorldParagraphs up in this mofo. Nice.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Pat will definitely go after Jrue and likely Horford again as well to see if the teammates want to stick together if Horford doesn’t retire. He’s always liked those guys and Horford would be a solid backup vet to Bam and Ware. We need to look at Brook Lopez there as well. Size that can stretch the floor and defend

I don’t see the incentive of going after Jrue with 3 years left on deal and a heavy payday at the end of it. We won’t be able to field a bench if we bring in Durant. We need to go cheap at the PG spot. That means resign Mitchell, sign a minimum vet, and hopefully draft a young prospect to develop behind him. If we strike out on Durant it still makes zero sense to go after Jrue. Celtics will be laughing at us for bailing them out.

I don’t disagree, I just know Pat lol. He’ll want Jrue

Andy Elisburg will have to tell the old man that the math don’t math if he wants KD lol

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Common sense and well reality tell us we need a full rebuild but our front office won’t do that. KD even at his age would be the best player on this team with only Bam ahead of him. Odds are in two year KD will still be better than Herro or anyone not named Bam on the roster. Unfortunately the Suns won’t take our trash, our rejects for KD.

Not so fast my friend about the Suns not taking our rejects. Remember KD has a 54.7 million dollar contract that needs to be matched and is also an up coming 37 year old soon to be free agent that wants to be paid a max for the next two years.

Very much like Butler the market is going to be suppressed. I have outlined numerous options that get the Suns expiring contracts and the potential to get out of the tax with Duncan’s contract. At tops they should be thrilled with getting a couple of young players out of this in Jovic and JJJ.

Remember what our haul was for Butler? Wiggins, Anderson, and i believe was a top 12 protected pick that became 20th. Now we did get a good amount of tax salary relief in the deal that saved Arison close to 20 plus mil in taxes and almost got us completely out of it until Raptors backed out of taking Anderson and instead took on Tucker for Mitchell while us giving them a 2nd rd pick.

Rozier, Duncan, JJJ and Jovic honestly even without throwing in a pick looks a lot better than Wiggins, Anderson, top 12 protected. Suns are getting Rozier’s expiring and maybe they try and rehab him along side Booker. We got saddled with Wiggins extra year at 30 million.

Duncan gets them out of the tax after the owner spent a record amount in taxes last year and they also will be in the repeater next year if they don’t get out of it. JJJ gives them a young option at the 3 and Jovic gives them a young 4 they don’t have. At tops right now i would swap the 20th for 29th with them this year. Considering the financial flexibility that’s coming along with this deal.

MettaWorldParagraphs up in this mofo. Nice.

He’s going to bat for KD like we’ve never seen, Patrick better come through for him

[BadMofoPimp]

Already solved it.

Bam for 2 and 14.

Herro for 3.

Suffer year 1.

Draft DP.

Win a whole buncha rangs.

Harper
VJ
Jovic
Dybansta
Ware

Jesus.

Thats the stuff right there.

NBA2k is helluva lot of fun!

[DayofMourning]

Harper
VJ
Jovic
Dybansta
Ware

Jesus.

Thats the stuff right there.

NBA2k is helluva lot of fun!

Putting this lineup on career mode.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Common sense and well reality tell us we need a full rebuild but our front office won’t do that. KD even at his age would be the best player on this team with only Bam ahead of him. Odds are in two year KD will still be better than Herro or anyone not named Bam on the roster. Unfortunately the Suns won’t take our trash, our rejects for KD.

Not so fast my friend about the Suns not taking our rejects. Remember KD has a 54.7 million dollar contract that needs to be matched and is also an up coming 37 year old soon to be free agent that wants to be paid a max for the next two years.

Very much like Butler the market is going to be suppressed. I have outlined numerous options that get the Suns expiring contracts and the potential to get out of the tax with Duncan’s contract. At tops they should be thrilled with getting a couple of young players out of this in Jovic and JJJ.

Remember what our haul was for Butler? Wiggins, Anderson, and i believe was a top 12 protected pick that became 20th. Now we did get a good amount of tax salary relief in the deal that saved Arison close to 20 plus mil in taxes and almost got us completely out of it until Raptors backed out of taking Anderson and instead took on Tucker for Mitchell while us giving them a 2nd rd pick.

Rozier, Duncan, JJJ and Jovic honestly even without throwing in a pick looks a lot better than Wiggins, Anderson, top 12 protected. Suns are getting Rozier’s expiring and maybe they try and rehab him along side Booker. We got saddled with Wiggins extra year at 30 million.

Duncan gets them out of the tax after the owner spent a record amount in taxes last year and they also will be in the repeater next year if they don’t get out of it. JJJ gives them a young option at the 3 and Jovic gives them a young 4 they don’t have. At tops right now i would swap the 20th for 29th with them this year. Considering the financial flexibility that’s coming along with this deal.

They can make deals with Nets to lower the tax. Jovic is is up to get paid, jjj was how to say to say it politely trash. If that’s the offer the Suns are better off holding him and letting him expire and taking out 50+ mill off of the salary. The west is a blood bath, Jovic, JJJ won’t even make them competitive so they are better off holding on to KD unfortunately for us.

Holding him like we were supposed to hold Butler until he expired right? And the BK option seems a bit of a stretch as they will be looking to put better use of there cap space then taking back O’Neale and Grayson Allen. Suns will take the assets cause they are indeed assets. They are also getting the salary relief desired without giving us assets other then Durant who like Butler is not going to play out his age 37 year on an expiring. Until the league changes something these aging vets will roll with the Butler playbook. Suns won’t do this to Durant like we delusionaly tried with Butler.

[BadMofoPimp]

Jesus.

Thats the stuff right there.

NBA2k is helluva lot of fun!

Putting this lineup on career mode.

That is truly the most fun when playing that way.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[MettaWorldPanda]

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Dylan Harper is going to be the starting PG for the Bucks next year. Damn Spurs will get Giannis and draft Essengue at 14.

[Vertical Limit]

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The Bucks are going to tell him they want to keep him.

Hes going to ask what are their plans to make them competitors.

Their answer is not going to be good enough, because Liliard is out for the following season, and because of that reason and the dollar amount owed to Liliard (2 years 121 million remaining), he is untradeable, they wont be able to get anything to fill that gap.

They also may lose out on roleplayers like Portis, Connaughton, Porter who are all going to decide soon whether theyre going to take their player option or test free agency this offseason.

Brook Lopez is a free agent, hes gone.

So Giannis will tell them he wants a trade. Theyre going to counter with we want the highest return available if they explore that.

Theyll meet somewhere in the middle.


Herro, 3 firsts, ware, jjj, jovic.. thats our offer Bucks!

Gonna leave this lineup here

Miami Heat starting lineup in october:

Davion Mitchell
larrson
Durant
Giannis
Bam

[wadenation305]

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The Bucks are going to tell him they want to keep him.

Hes going to ask what are their plans to make them competitors.

Their answer is not going to be good enough, because Liliard is out for the following season, and because of that reason and the dollar amount owed to Liliard (2 years 121 million remaining), he is untradeable, they wont be able to get anything to fill that gap.

They also may lose out on roleplayers like Portis, Connaughton, Porter who are all going to decide soon whether theyre going to take their player option or test free agency this offseason.

Brook Lopez is a free agent, hes gone.

So Giannis will tell them he wants a trade. Theyre going to counter with we want the highest return available if they explore that.

Theyll meet somewhere in the middle.


Herro, 3 firsts, ware, jjj, jovic.. thats our offer Bucks!

Gonna leave this lineup here

Miami Heat starting lineup in october:

Davion Mitchell
larrson
Durant
Giannis
Bam

From your lips to God's ear brother, but we all know that's not going to happen

[marson]

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Giannis to Magic confirmed.

[RexBoyWonder]

Heat are definitely going to be pushing for someone else within the year if they land Durant, he won’t be considered their final piece

Collin Sexton and Quentin Grimes would be my targets.

young hungry guards that can score but aren't hopeless defensively, and they won't cost a ton.

Grimes\ Mitchell\ Larsson
Herro \Grimes\ Larsson
KD\ Keldon
Bam\ ____
Ware\ Bam

Assuming we lose Jovic and Wiggins in the KD trade.

If Ware can make the Leap and Grimes can be what I think he can be (a strong heady 2 way guard that can shoot, create some, play good D and be versatile..in the Andrew Nembhard mold) -

We might be better then one can currently imagine.

Getting that second new scorer after getting KD will be crucial IMO.

[Beenie]

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The Bucks are going to tell him they want to keep him.

Hes going to ask what are their plans to make them competitors.

Their answer is not going to be good enough, because Liliard is out for the following season, and because of that reason and the dollar amount owed to Liliard (2 years 121 million remaining), he is untradeable, they wont be able to get anything to fill that gap.

They also may lose out on roleplayers like Portis, Connaughton, Porter who are all going to decide soon whether theyre going to take their player option or test free agency this offseason.

Brook Lopez is a free agent, hes gone.

So Giannis will tell them he wants a trade. Theyre going to counter with we want the highest return available if they explore that.

Theyll meet somewhere in the middle.


Herro, 3 firsts, ware, jjj, jovic.. thats our offer Bucks!

Gonna leave this lineup here

Miami Heat starting lineup in october:

Davion Mitchell
larrson
Durant
Giannis
Bam

This implies the Sun would accept a trade build around Wiggins and no picks for KD eh?

[HeatFan_NC]

Is there a post on here that shows who our free agents are this year? Or perhaps there's a link to a webpage that has that info.

[HeatFan_NC]

I guess it's time for my annual barrage of posts showing the performance of older NBA players.

Number of NBA players avg 20 ppg or more this regular season by age:

34 or older: 6
35 or older: 5
36 or older: 3
37 or older: 2
38 or older: 1

Number of NBA players avg 15 ppg or more this regular season by age:

34 or older: 9
35 or older: 7
36 or older: 3
37 or older: 2
38 or older: 1

That's how quickly it happens. This is why I didn't want to extend Jimmy. This is why I oppose giving older players multi-year contracts. This is why I don't want to spend assets or cap space on older players at all if possible ... with franchise GOAT being the exception. I don't understand why Heat fans keep wanting to place bets on older players.

because they want the heat to be relevant again. but it wont happen until change in philosophy and FO personnel and players are achieved. nobody wants to really come here after lebron left and even less when they saw the spectacle with butler. years of purgatory awaits us all til FO retires or kicks the bucket whatever happens first

But that's the thing, if you want to be relevant you need to acquire a young Wade or a prime Lebron or a prime Durant, not a Durant on his last leg. The absolute best case scenario with signing Durant is that we'd be relevant again for 1 year and then we'd be right back here the year after. And that's the absolute best case. The much more likely outcome is that age and injuries and the team deficiencies around Durant would leave us a play-in team this next season and we'd be right back here next offseason but with 2 massive extension years left on Durant's contract.

Amen. My thoughts exactly

[MettaWorldPanda]

Is there a post on here that shows who our free agents are this year? Or perhaps there's a link to a webpage that has that info.

Alec Burks
Keldon Johnson(non guaranteed) *Will get picked up
Duncan Robinson 9.8 million guaranteed 10 million in cap savings if released.

[HeatFan_NC]

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Dylan Harper is going to be the starting PG for the Bucks next year. Damn Spurs will get Giannis and draft Essengue at 14.

The Spurs are going to be set for the next decade.