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Re: Boston-Miami/TNT/8PM 

Post#1221 » by KDS91 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:06 am

GameTime_3 wrote:Just got back from the game;
-Ray Allen could not miss. I saw him hit 8 stright 3's at halftime from the same corner that he hit 2 in game.
-Erik Spo needs to go!
-Joel Anthony needs to sit down and stay there. Z makes things happen, Udonis can hit jumper, what does Joel bring again? Every game its the same thing.....GET RID OF HIS ASS!
-Udonis Haslem at one point in the game was yelling @ Spo. Spo said after the game"Udonis was telling me about how we should be defending the pick and roll and I think it was good advice"...Source 790 Ticket.
-Chris Bosh should of been featured more in the 3rd and 4th.
-Wade could not buy a call. I mean he was missing everything and getting hit on everything.
-Paul P is exactly whats wrong with the NBA. Good player but acts like a soccer player when given the chance. Ref's need to give techs for flopping instead of giving Tech for arguing a questionable call.
-Lebron James kept this game alive!
-Great crowd today! Everyone seemed active and loud.
-GOD I HATE SPO! Riley please come back.
-When Arroyo and Joel are in the game, they were doubling the ball and Bosh downlow, while leaving Arroyo and Joel open.


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Are you for real?! First the "any ideas?" to Ron freaking Rothstein in the playoffs now this?!
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Re: Boston-Miami/TNT/8PM 

Post#1222 » by GameTime_3 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:06 am

Difference between teams; One team plays like a team. The other plays like a street ball team. How many plays did the Celtics run to get someone open. On the other hand, EVERY SINGLE PLAY WAS ISO or P&R. No movement on offense, no back door screens, nothing. SPO = Randy Shannon....
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Post#1223 » by thecrowning » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:08 am

This team needs a totally new and more of a traditional philosophy, even if Pittman is worse than Anthony as a player (!!), play him because of his size. Even if Chalmers is a worse player than Arroyo (??), play him because he is a good fit.

This sends a message to the players that their coach is NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL, right now everyone is having doubts about such a "cover each other weakness deal" would work. And I can tell you here, it would not. Players are not robots, even if whatever intricate and genius scheme Spo has works to a T in his mind, the reality is...when it starts failing on the court, the players would ask "Spo has never played in the league, how the hell would he know it would work out there"...then you'll see everyone goes through the motion...and that is the worse thing that could happen, because everyone is wasting valuable time.

Either Spo is a fast learner that can step out of his box and turn into a genius instantly, or else ,he will be Mike Brown 2.0.
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Re: Boston-Miami/TNT/8PM 

Post#1224 » by Flash4thewin » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:09 am

agentk16 wrote:
GameTime_3 wrote:Just got back from the game;
-Ray Allen could not miss. I saw him hit 8 stright 3's at halftime from the same corner that he hit 2 in game.
-Erik Spo needs to go!
-Joel Anthony needs to sit down and stay there. Z makes things happen, Udonis can hit jumper, what does Joel bring again? Every game its the same thing.....GET RID OF HIS ASS!
-Udonis Haslem at one point in the game was yelling @ Spo. Spo said after the game"Udonis was telling me about how we should be defending the pick and roll and I think it was good advice"...Source 790 Ticket.
-Chris Bosh should of been featured more in the 3rd and 4th.
-Wade could not buy a call. I mean he was missing everything and getting hit on everything.
-Paul P is exactly whats wrong with the NBA. Good player but acts like a soccer player when given the chance. Ref's need to give techs for flopping instead of giving Tech for arguing a questionable call.
-Lebron James kept this game alive!
-Great crowd today! Everyone seemed active and loud.
-GOD I HATE SPO! Riley please come back.
-When Arroyo and Joel are in the game, they were doubling the ball and Bosh downlow, while leaving Arroyo and Joel open.


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Are you for real?! First the "any ideas?" to Ron freaking Rothstein in the playoffs now this?!


And yet this is not surprising. Sounds like something Spo would do
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Post#1225 » by RapsGirl » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:10 am

it's very easy to point @ what the Celtics did a few years back as the reason why MIA should be up.....
but BOS didn't have to face the same caliber of teams that MIA will be facing this season.

the variables are completely different.
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Post#1226 » by MadPT » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:11 am

Wow. Watching half time of the next game they showed Riley putting his notes in his pocket, that looked like multiple full pages. Press release?
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Post#1227 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:13 am

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Could he really be worse than Joel?
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Post#1228 » by Pimpwerx » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:15 am

GameTime_3 wrote:-When Arroyo and Joel are in the game, they were doubling the ball and Bosh downlow, while leaving Arroyo and Joel open.

This is my biggest concern. Rondo was 15-20 feet off Arroyo all night. If one of the big3 got the ball, he was doubling them. It's a serious liability that's causing the big3 to work even harder to start games. He doesn't provide spacing at all. Anthony is fine, but should probably come off the bench. PEACE.
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Post#1229 » by thecrowning » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:16 am

RapsGirl wrote:it's very easy to point @ what the Celtics did a few years back as the reason why MIA should be up.....
but BOS didn't have to face the same caliber of teams that MIA will be facing this season.

the variables are completely different.


That is the worst way of thinking at this time imo. The record really does not matter, its what Spo is doing and how the team is reacting. Rivers tho didn't face as much challenge earlier on, did not put lineups out there that do not work on paper. That team is focused on what each needs to do, the only problem was late game situations.

The heat on the otherhand, plays with doubts, hence lack of passion. Its not about the competition, its about that they already spent 9 games (1/9 of a season) trying to do something that does not work on paper.
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Re: Boston-Miami/TNT/8PM 

Post#1230 » by TheAnkh » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:18 am

GameTime_3 wrote:Difference between teams; One team plays like a team. The other plays like a street ball team. How many plays did the Celtics run to get someone open. On the other hand, EVERY SINGLE PLAY WAS ISO or P&R. No movement on offense, no back door screens, nothing. SPO = Randy Shannon....


Well everyone is going to jump down my throat for saying this, but a big part of that is LeBron. He has the ball in his hands entirely too much and his style does not encourage ball movement. This experiment at PG is going to fail if you doesn't start to realize that its okay for him to pass the ball without pounding it for so long, and yes even when it won't end up as an assist in his stat column.
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Post#1231 » by Salty » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:19 am

TheAnkh wrote:
GameTime_3 wrote:Difference between teams; One team plays like a team. The other plays like a street ball team. How many plays did the Celtics run to get someone open. On the other hand, EVERY SINGLE PLAY WAS ISO or P&R. No movement on offense, no back door screens, nothing. SPO = Randy Shannon....


Well everyone is going to jump down my throat for saying this, but a big part of that is LeBron. He has the ball in his hands entirely too much and his style does not encourage ball movement. This experiment at PG is going to fail if you doesn't start to realize that its okay for him to pass the ball, and yes even when it won't end up as an assist in his stat column.

How the hell is that Lebron's fault when its been the same thing for 2 years?
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Re: Boston-Miami/TNT/8PM 

Post#1232 » by RapsGirl » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:21 am

thecrowning wrote:
RapsGirl wrote:it's very easy to point @ what the Celtics did a few years back as the reason why MIA should be up.....
but BOS didn't have to face the same caliber of teams that MIA will be facing this season.

the variables are completely different.


That is the worst way of thinking at this time imo. The record really does not matter, its what Spo is doing and how the team is reacting. Rivers tho didn't face as much challenge earlier on, did not put lineups out there that do not work on paper. That team is focused on what each needs to do, the only problem was late game situations.

The heat on the otherhand, plays with doubts, hence lack of passion. Its not about the competition, its about that they already spent 9 games (1/9 of a season) trying to do something that does not work on paper.


i'm not saying that MIA has played perfect basketball or anything like that. i honestly believe that they should @ least be sitting with a 6-2 record (with the losses to BOS being the only legit ones).

my post was for those that keep comparing BOS's chemistry in 08 (or whenever their team was assembled) to MIA's chemistry. they're not facing the same caliber of teams. bad coaching or not.

that's all i'm saying.
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Post#1233 » by BronBron06 » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:22 am

LOLOLOLOL one of the most obvious observation for a while that is repeated for numerous times

What are you gonna do when James handling the ball, Wades stays at a corner, doesnt do any offball movement

Vice Versa with Wade handling the ball


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Re: Boston-Miami/TNT/8PM 

Post#1234 » by Illmatic_Heat » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:23 am

BronBron06 wrote:LOLOLOLOL

What are you gonna do when James handling the ball, Wades stays at a corner, doesnt do any offball movement

Vice Versa with Wade handling the ball


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exactly!
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Post#1235 » by fishfuego. » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:23 am

Yeap, this is not your typical Team. This Team is supposed to be THE team. It will not be just Wade or Bosh or Lebron asking questions, but Nike and other financial institutions asking questions lol.

What a disaster so far.
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Post#1236 » by thecrowning » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:23 am

TheAnkh wrote:
GameTime_3 wrote:Difference between teams; One team plays like a team. The other plays like a street ball team. How many plays did the Celtics run to get someone open. On the other hand, EVERY SINGLE PLAY WAS ISO or P&R. No movement on offense, no back door screens, nothing. SPO = Randy Shannon....


Well everyone is going to jump down my throat for saying this, but a big part of that is LeBron. He has the ball in his hands entirely too much and his style does not encourage ball movement. This experiment at PG is going to fail if you doesn't start to realize that its okay for him to pass the ball, and yes even when it won't end up as an assist in his stat column.


They started the game playing Lebron off the ball, and how did that turn out? I understand that Lebron playing PG is part of the problem, but you don't have much option when you don't even play Chalmers. Play Chalmers, the starting unit will have a clear direction, the ball can still go through Lebron's hands, but it would not stick as much. Watch him play with Gibson and Mo. Playing Arroyo and Lebron at the same time brings back the Eric Snow' era Lebron.

Playing Pittman/Magliore would be miraculous for Bosh.

That's at least a sensible place to start.
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Re: Boston-Miami/TNT/8PM 

Post#1237 » by TruGM » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:24 am

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TruGM wrote:I think you guys should start Eddie House at PG and Big Z at C.

The problem is not Bosh or Haslem, they both try hard, but sometimes you just need someone tall and big enough that some rebounds just fall in their hands.

Eddie house is pesky enough to bother other PG's and he can shoot the 3!

you want to start a shooting guard, who never played PG, as a PG?


Obviously you never watched any of the Celtics games when they had house. He usually was their back up PG. Even after they got Nate Robinson house was the back up, only this year Nate Robinson is getting minutes.
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Re: Boston-Miami/TNT/8PM 

Post#1238 » by Flashpoint » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:25 am

TheAnkh wrote:
GameTime_3 wrote:Difference between teams; One team plays like a team. The other plays like a street ball team. How many plays did the Celtics run to get someone open. On the other hand, EVERY SINGLE PLAY WAS ISO or P&R. No movement on offense, no back door screens, nothing. SPO = Randy Shannon....


Well everyone is going to jump down my throat for saying this, but a big part of that is LeBron. He has the ball in his hands entirely too much and his style does not encourage ball movement. This experiment at PG is going to fail if you doesn't start to realize that its okay for him to pass the ball without pounding it for so long, and yes even when it won't end up as an assist in his stat column.

You ever watch the rest of the team while Lebron pounds the ball? There's absolutely no movement. Everyone waiting for something to develop but no one seems to know what.
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Re: Boston-Miami/TNT/8PM 

Post#1239 » by youngeman » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:25 am

coolstorybro wrote:LeBron is NOT the problem. Our SYSTEM is the problem.

We're not taking advantage of the skills of our Big 3. Wade and Bosh can both be great off the ball, and LeBron is a tremendous passer. We just need to run more...but here comes the problem...

A.) We apparently don't practice offense. amen
B.) We can't grab rebounds.


Coach spo really needs to practice offense more. when was the last time we have seen wade take good mid range jumps in the last 2 years. wade game has decrease since Coach spo came into coaching. now lebron james can't shoot.
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Re: Boston-Miami/TNT/8PM 

Post#1240 » by Shamrock » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:25 am

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